Musician Archive
Thread: what it is realy all about
We dont play for money for tips that is just a stupid thing and should never influnce you to be a musician if its why you are one then quit now
I play to be special to be needed wanted to haev people clap for me to say good job or nice show or taksn that was super
this is the reason to be a musician
this is also the reason I want to be able to make my own songs!
10 songs 8 foourishes 4 diffrent sounds but realy its all the same I can tell exactly what song is being played
it sounds the same or very close to it
We should stop with our tips complaints let it go forget it its not a money making professions and it prob never will be and you know what thats fine
But if we can make our own songs then we will each and every one of us be special diffrent
people will want to listen to us not jsut to heal but to see what we are playing and if it is good adn if it moves them they will say wow super and that my friends is worth more than a 10,000 credit tip
A golgle serch will give you thousands of FREE sites to download music and we will make our own and put up links new songs and more!
Music defines a culture it moves us it effects us srounding us adn becoming part of us
everyone has there favorate song and every song has a special meaning to someone adn without our own song writing ability the songs are meanigless past getting healed
I cant play a single instrument I cant write songs I cant read sheet music
but I can find a song on the net get the sheetmusic and input it and then I can play it
I can move people make them think and feal I can change someones day!
do you think that if the DEV give us 10 new songs that will happen?
we will just be a 20 song jutebox and they will jut be the same old garbage slected by someone who yes he likes them and feals them but we may not
the excitment of going to a new canteens and listing to someone play a song that you haev no idea what it will be
not runnign in watching your helth and fatuge are fixed while you listen to the 200th playing of SW2
trading songs selling them on the bazaar going to a club hearing some play a song adn then playing yours and trading them with the other performer
yes let us haev a lot of flourishes so I can play enya and slightly sway or iron butterfly adan throw and swing my mandolin!
flourish moves should haev nothing to do with the note played each flourish should describe the song your playing not just be some slap in cokie cutter move
when I walk into a canteena I want to WANT TO listen to what song is being played I want to be surprised when I hit that listen button
I want to be moved to be taken and be changed adn I want to be able to do this to people too
no ammount of songs given to us by the DEv team no matter how hard they try will give us this fealing
I know its scary it will be somthing a little new to a lot of us but while we learn to make our own songs I know for certan that the boards will filll with hundreds of songs in days
if you doubt this then log on to the neverwinter game site and see how many dungeons monsters spells weapons ect are added every day the Dev team knew if they gave people the tools that they would be rewarded
10 Dev working on songs for days could put out some nice songs but 50,000 musicians all working on making new songs will do an amazing ammount !
Please Dev and Please players push for this change throw away the shackels of the current system the few scraps of bread were are given by an overworked team let us feed ourselves adn we will be greatly enriched!
take that step sign below say just7 simple game changing words
I WANT TO MAKEMY OWN SONGS!
As the entertainer/musician prof is implemented currently it is a lot of fun.
Being able to create my own songs would be cool, but I imagine the majority of players wouldn't want to or be very good at it 
They have said repeatedly, from the beginning in Beta 1 and before that this won't happen.
There are possible legal / copyright usage issues.
Faydra wrote:
We dont play for money for tips that is just a stupid thing and should never influnce you to be a musician if its why you are one then quit now
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people will want to listen to us not jsut to heal but to see what we are playing and if it is good adn if it moves them they will say wow super and that my friends is worth more than a 10,000 credit tip
We don't play "for money for tips" [sic]? Speak for yourself.
"Wow, super" is worth more than a 10k credit tip? Tell that to the bazaar.
What color is the sky in your world?
IronFreeze wrote:
You'd be absolutely amazed what a bunch of MM's can do with the flourishes. Did you know that you can set the flourishes to flourish only on specific intruments? A full band of MM's with one leading the band doing various flourishes can produce an amazing effect, and really can alter songs to their own needs. As for making my own songs, yeah, it would be great, but I know that a bajillion people would be doing brittany's latest song, or some other garbage, this I do not want, so I support not having player built music (too many people would do it, you just know they would). I do however want more songs and instruments.
Uhm.
Dev's should find an answer to this question:
How much a MM is different from another MM?
Actually, just a bit. But the spirit of the game is to have characters as most didderents as possible... it was designed for that..
A system to compose can have his logical structure, end the result should not be copied sons... and definitely it should be no used from those that are not interested in him.
IMHO, with a few of mathematics, to have a reasonable difference between your MM char and mine, with actual system, we must have about 50 flou, 10/15 different sounds in instruments and 30 songs...
just my 2 cr.
Barthes wrote:
How much a MM is different from another MM?
Actually, just a bit. But the spirit of the game is to have characters as most didderents as possible... it was designed for that..
Well in the mechanics of the game the Master Musician skill is the same for everyone, but (also in the mechanics of the game) what makes them different is that one is a MM/artisan/brawler and one is a MM/pistoleer/smuggler or whatever. That's the game mechanics making the players different.
I do see your point, however, and feel like it would be nice if there was something to seperate master musicians from each other without considering whatever other skills they have. Game mechanics do not do anything to seperate two MMs who are playing together from each other. The difference is in the player.
It would be great though, if I could list a bunch of things that make two MMs different from each other, not counting their other skills.
as I have said Halo pushed for it he is in the busness he knows what can and cant be done
he wouldnt have told us that he pushed for it if it wasnt possible ligaly or tec
also I CANT WRITE MUSIC I dont know how
but I do know how to do a goolge serch and I have and I can get millions of songs for free and jut type them in
people might be playing britany spears well if thts what they want to play and thats what people want to hear fine
you go itnot the bar someone is playing you dont hear it untill you PICK TO LISTEN then if its a song you hate stop listening look for another listner
if you think the dev will be pumping out song after song for us your crazzy we might see 5 new songs a couple of months from now then maby a couple more a few months from that
this is a chance for us to gte them to insted install a system to let us play UNLIMITED NEW SONGS NOW they can spend the next 6 months making a handfull of songs or they can spend that same time working on a system for us to play UNLIMITED SONGS
people there are millions of musics sheets on the net rigfht now for free we will have millions of songs the day this is out
you people that think this isnt poossible some who knows more than you and I a game dev holo says it can be done so who is right us or him?
and keep it up and all we will see is a couple of songs every few months how long will that keep us happy
have fun playing you 10 songs (if you even have that many) and in two months from now see how happy you will be when they add just 3 or so new songs.
Faydra,
Faydra, Faydra Faydra, We have allready gone over this!
Playing copyrighted Songs in a Entertainment media IS a violation of copyright LAW!
I know, I have had lots of exp with copyrighted songs working in the theater.
Yes HOLO DID push for this , and was told NO!
Holo is not a copyright lawyer, he is a game Dev.. He would NOT know if it was leagal or not!
If the devs are not putting content in fast enough for you go play somthing else, another Profesion or another game!
MMO content is slow at best. I think SOE and LA are doing a fine job at getting the bugs fixed first and will add content ASAP.
Re-Posting your ideas over and over isn't going to make it posible or happen faster.
Epidap Epidap Epidap
we dont know why they said no to holo your guessing my guess is they were cutting fetures left and right to release faster adn they cut it who's guess is right we dont know
Copyright laws well you dont know I dont know EVEN THE SPREAM COURT DOSNT KNOW
it not like we are downloaded actual songs like so many of the online services are doing right now SOE is giving us an instrument and we are playing it as we want to
can fender (they make instruments) be sued becouse I play stariway to heaven in a night club???
I dont know these things you dont know these things how about we ask the DEV and they anwser it Hummm?
II didnt say that they wernt working fast enough nor did I say I wasnt happy with what they haev I just dont want them to put a lot of work into making a bunch of songs when they can take that same time and put it into a system that will give us unlimited number of songs
Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day teach a man to fish and he eats for a lifetime
lets just ask them and lets see any harm in that? and we could win big big big!
you and the other nay sayers who keep po pooing the idea with no idea if it can be done just think it cant and saying no is silly when we can ask and find out easly 
Know whats worse than a macroer? having a way for people to easly make master musician defeting the system and flooding the market with little effort and people being able to heal from a macroing jerk and not haev to tip becouse he wont even know you healed them
If everyone can be a master Musician with no work or effort then becoming a master musician is no feet no great thing and it becomes very cheep and debased
Yes, I do know!
Holo has allready said NO, what more do you want? Others have even said it was brought up in beta and was nixed.
Thatidea ( It never made it to Feature)was cut long before any other cuts.
If you playANY Copyrighted Songin a club (or any other venue, that would inclued a game,for pay ( SOE makes money
the Owner of the Copyright can sue you (SOE for allowing it)!
You are missing , or ignoring that point.
Your argument about fender ( They make great guitars! ) is totaly off base.
If YOU play a copyrighted song YOU , And the owners of said venue, get sued, not the maker of the instrument you use.
Thats like saying if I kill someone the maker of the weapon i use should be sued.
Ok so how do local cover bands and tribute bands get away with playing other peoples music? I see no reason for them not allowing us to create our own songs.. Have you ever been to www.mysongbook.com? They have guitar pro songs that are arranged in midi for learning to play guitar of thousands of songs. The way they can do it is becuase they cant put any of the lyrics written in the songs. Its all midi and the site has been up a long time.
So I dont see any reason SOE cant incoroporate the ability of creating your own music in game. Even if people do put tunes to real music its fine because there is no lyrics. Nobody will be downloading these song nor making real money of them so I think it would be a good idea to give us the ability to do it.