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Thread: Western2 does it exist?

Zedzuada
Mon Aug 29, 2005 5:23 pm
#1

I've just finished the Theater Manager's musican quest and learned the western song. Is there a new version available after earning sufficient experience playing it, as there is for the theatrical dance earned through the dancer's version of the same quest?


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ThreeTimesOneMinusOne
Mon Aug 29, 2005 7:46 pm
#2

Chessack
Mon Aug 29, 2005 10:21 pm
#3

Not that I know of.

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Gknee
Tue Aug 30, 2005 7:36 am
#4

No there isn't. Dancers have theatrical2 because most of their dances have 2 in a series. (ie popular to popular2) The same is true with the quest dance.



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Fragpuppie
Tue Aug 30, 2005 5:55 pm
#5

.....and though there is Star Wars 1-4, each is a separate song. Most dances are not very different....mostly just a change in the "vamp" moves with all 8 flos being the same.



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Zedzuada
Tue Aug 30, 2005 11:15 pm
#6

Well, when I did the dancer quest I got the popup for theatrical2 after dancing theatrical1 for about 100k of xp.

Today I've done about 2x that with western1, so it's looking like there is no such dance. Pity.


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havenite
Sun Sep 11, 2005 4:53 pm
#7

No plans to include that YET, theatrical 2 dance was later introduction- just make it look like they were doing something positive for enteratiners



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Chessack
Sun Sep 11, 2005 6:36 pm
#8

Well remember, most dances have 2 forms. The first version's base dance always looks horrible, as if you are tripping over your own feet, and the 2nd version always looks more graceful.

Since musicians get a good "base" from the get-go, they don't need a "2" version of the same song. The only ones that are named that way, are SW1, 2, 3, 4, and they're only named like that because they are the 4 songs in the repertoire with melodies derived from the movies (none of the others are). They aren't variations of each other (e.g., SW2 is NOT SW1 with a different base song).

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Fragpuppie
Sun Sep 11, 2005 7:24 pm
#9



havenite wrote:
No plans to include that YET, theatrical 2 dance was later introduction- just make it look like they were doing something positive for enteratiners




Theatrical 2 was introduced at the same time as Theatrical 1.

I specifically remember wonder what was up with the "Choreography Trainer" in the theatre and speaking with her on TestCenter. It was not added later.

It WAS fixed later so people could see the base dance.


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Fragpuppie
Sun Sep 11, 2005 7:37 pm
#10



havenite wrote:
No plans to include that YET, theatrical 2 dance was later introduction- just make it look like they were doing something positive for enteratiners




Theatrical 2 was introduced at the same time as Theatrical 1.

I specifically remember wonder what was up with the "Choreography Trainer" in the theatre and speaking with her on TestCenter. It was not added later.

It WAS fixed later so people could see the base dance.


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Panthu
Mon Sep 12, 2005 2:49 am
#11

I tried to find the original post where Tiaga hadasked about Theatrical2 and the NPC and got back the reply about how it was meant to work and that this was intended to be just a first step in moving us towards quest based dance/song granting for all of them... *takes deep breath*... but I couldn't find it. Only the one where he talked about the XP part.


I also thought NewJedi had a few posts about it in here, but I can't find that either. *le sigh* My search skills are getting rusty.





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SlickRiptide
Mon Sep 12, 2005 10:02 am
#12







Chessack wrote:

Since musicians get a good "base" from the get-go, they don't need a "2" version of the same song. The only ones that are named that way, are SW1, 2, 3, 4, and they're only named like that because they are the 4 songs in the repertoire with melodies derived from the movies (none of the others are).



Thread derailment here:


SW 1, 2, 4 = Cantina song variations. (If you were able to switch tunes mid-stream the way that dancers are able to switch dances mid-stream, you'd be able to mix all three to get the original cantina song from the movie.)


Folk = Leia's theme.


SW 3 = March of the Empire (It's always funny watching the reaction when someone realizes this for the first time.)


Ceremonial = The victory theme from the end of Ep4. (Which appropriately enough is played over an award ceremony.)


I haven't listened to the others closely enough to figure out where they come from. Virtuoso is the only odd duck I've heard, in that it sounds exactly like _Jeepers, Creepers_, which is probably a coincidence of some kind unless the copyright on that song has run out. It IS a pretty old song. I'm reasonably certain that most or all of the other tunes are also derived from the movies in some way or another.


Chessack
Mon Sep 12, 2005 10:18 am
#13

I do not agree, Slick. Folk sounds nothing like Princess Leia's theme, and Ceremonial sounds nothing like the Award Ceremony music (which starts out as Ben's Theme, later re-named the Force Theme, and then switches to something else).

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