Merchant Archive
Thread: Category Revamp doc by Tirranus
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Elyssa
Fri Mar 18, 2005 2:26 pm
#1
The problem with a lot of the categories like entities and eyewear is that they do actually exist in the game, you just can't sell them.
They just need to be hidden.
My personal pet peeve is furniture. (Don't even get me started on the duplicate named items)
It needs to be broken down the same way clothing is:
-Chairs
-Couches (and loveseats)
-Tables
-Containers
-Plants
-Paintings (and posters)
-Lights (candles, lamps, & torches)
-Civic (streetlamps, fountains, statues)
-Terminals (ballot, data, etc)
-Misc (beds and whatever is left over, including Nemoidian Birdcages which are not currently considered to be furniture.
I've probably left out a couple.
As for categories in general, I think that every item in the game that can appear in a vendor listing should be required to fit into a subcategory.
Things like faction scanners and turrets sort under "Deed"
Deed > Faction would make sense.
As it is, you have to look at EVERY "deed" to be able to see these things.
Also, do away with Misc > Item. Why are these "items" and not "generic items"
Oh, and factory crates should sort by their base category, not "factory crate"
Message Edited by Elyssa on 03-18-2005 03:27 PM
Dimear
Fri Mar 18, 2005 5:21 pm
#2
I'd like the ability to set a category for a backpack too. Like a backpack full of armor could be listed under armor (no subcategory). Andwhile I'm dreaming, alightsaber resource kit would have its own shiny new category under weapons.
Kyorlana
Sat Mar 19, 2005 1:49 am
#3
I think this deserves another look given the galaxy search is going ahead. Original thread here.
Tirranus wrote:My Plan for a Revamp:Added CategoriesRemoved CategoriesSplit Up or Repurposed CategoriesMoved CategoriesArmor Powerup (No items exist)Building (No items exist)Clothing:- Cape (No items exist)- Eyewear (No-trade items only)- Misc Clothing (No items exist)- Wearable Container (Moved to Clothing)Component:
- Clothing Component (Make all clothing components actually go here)
- Community Crafting Component (Make all loot kit parts actually go here)
- Electronics Component (Move these to the type of component they are used for, i.e. structure, droid)
- Tissue Component (Move these to the type of component they are used for, i.e. clothing, food)Consumables:- Food (Moved from Misc, move spice to Spice)
- Drink (Moved from Misc, move spice to Spice)- Pet Food- SpiceData:- Rename Data to WaypointEntity (No items exist)Installation (No items exist)Furniture:- Civic (i.e. Statues, fountains, etc.)- Community Crafting Project (Moved from Misc - Make all comleted loot kits actually go here)- Containers- Decorations (i.e. Loudspeakers, birdcages, etc)- Lighting- Paintings- Tables- Terminals- Msic (i.e. Beds, stuff that doesn't fit elsewhere but there's not enough of for its own category)Misc:
- Armor Attachment (Make all Armor Attachments actually go here)
- Chemical (No items exist)
- Clothing Attachment - Breakout
- Community Crafting Project (Moved to furniture)
- Container (Move furniture to furniture, others to wearable containers)
- Crystal (Duplicate - exists in Components)- Datadiscs
- Drink (Move spice to Spice category)- Electronics (No items exist)
- Factory Crate (Move to actual categories of the contents)
- Fireworks
- Firework Show (Contents moved to Fireworks)
- Fishing Supplies
- Fishing Bait (Contents moved to Fishing Supplies)
- Fishing Pole (Contents moved to Fishing Supplies)
- Flora (No items exist)
- Food (Moved to Consumables)
- Furniture (Created a new Furniture main category)
- Generic Item (See Below)
- Item (Move temporary enhancers to Pharmacutical, other stuff to appropriate categories)
- Locked Containers- Pet Medicine (Moved to Pharmacutical)- Pharmacutical (Created a new Pharmacutical main category)- Schematics- Sign (No items exist)
- Traps (Rename to Scout Gear, add camo kits)
Pharmacutical:- Buffpacks- Pet Medicine (Moved from Misc)- Medpacks- Stimpacks- Temporary Enhancements (or whatever the official name for them is)Resources:- Energy (Gas) (Move into Gas)
- Energy (Liquid) (Moved to Petrochem Fuel)
- Energy (Radioactive) (Rename to Radioactive)
- Energy (Solid) (Moved to Petrochem Fuel)- Flora
- Gemstone- Inorganic Chemical (Rename to Chemical)
- Inorganic Gas (Rename to Gas)
- Inorganic Mineral (Broken up)- Organic Food (Rename to Food, move fungi into Flora)- Metal- Ore
- Organic Hide (Rename to Hide)
- Organic Structural (Rename to Bone, move wood into Flora)
- Petrochem Fuel- Resource Container (Rename to Rare or something)
Current Stuff in Misc Items:
Looted furniture (Furniture - Decorations)
Junk items (Furniture - Decorations)
Camo kits (Misc - Scout Gear)
Chance cubes (Leave here)
Draft schematics (Misc - Schematics)
Schematics (Misc - Schematics)
Loot kit parts (Components - Community Crafting Components)
Loot kits completed (Furniture - Community Crafting Project)
Faction message fragments (Misc - Datadiscs)
Live Samples (Mis-categorized, fix)
Streetlamps (Furniture - Lighting)
Jawa Beads (Jewlery - Necklaces)
Statues (Furniture - Civic)
Locked containers (Misc - Locked Containers)Who knows what else?
Ani_cul
Sat Mar 19, 2005 1:58 am
#4
remove capes? NO
remove eyewear? NO
Removing these should not be suggested, but filling them should be!
Take the empty catigories as a note to add more content and items, not as a please remove post it!
Take the empty catigories as a note to add more content and items, not as a please remove post it!
Tissue should stay tissue, when I look for componants I do not want to see myloflex.
that is a optional add in..not a base componant
Enity, instalations...
Enity should be for droids and pets in data form(from the pad)
installations should be set buildings..let us sell houses placed on land.
that is a optional add in..not a base componant
Enity, instalations...
Enity should be for droids and pets in data form(from the pad)
installations should be set buildings..let us sell houses placed on land.
there more but I will end up knitpicking everysingle thing here ,
because atm I care more about the fact the search function going inis fluckered up
because atm I care more about the fact the search function going inis fluckered up
then the fact the searching itselfwont be fixed.
Tokklyym
Tue Mar 22, 2005 2:25 pm
#5
Given that the Galaxy-Wide Vendor Search is here, and we will not be stopping it, I think catagory re-vamp should be Number 2 on the Merchant's wish list. (We all know No.1, so I wont even bother with it.)
Once the Search hits Live, customers will be faced with literally hundreds of pages of items in many catagories. Revamping the Bazaar/Vendor interface must be done so that the galactic economy is not stripped down to who can get their items on the Bazaar first.
I like the catagory revamp idea, and added my 2 cents. But really, seriously, the GWVS needs a new Bazaar.
Poking around these threads I get the impression that Elyssa has not had much direct influence over the Merchant changes, and these things have sort of happened without any input from the community.
Once this publish hits live, I'd like to see a State of the Profession post where we can address the future of Merchant.
Once the Search hits Live, customers will be faced with literally hundreds of pages of items in many catagories. Revamping the Bazaar/Vendor interface must be done so that the galactic economy is not stripped down to who can get their items on the Bazaar first.
I like the catagory revamp idea, and added my 2 cents. But really, seriously, the GWVS needs a new Bazaar.
Poking around these threads I get the impression that Elyssa has not had much direct influence over the Merchant changes, and these things have sort of happened without any input from the community.
Once this publish hits live, I'd like to see a State of the Profession post where we can address the future of Merchant.
DesktopSaki
Tue Mar 22, 2005 5:59 pm
#6
I'd leave "Organic Food" and "Inorganic Chemicals" as such simply to help with the sorting--it keeps them lumped together on the list instead of it going Bone, Chemical, Crystalline Gemstone, Hides, Meat, Minerals, etc.
And we really need a way to break down the minerals, if nothing else. There's dozens and dozens of subtypes of minerals, florals and chemicals, and we'll have to sort through pages and pages of "Minerals" or "Florals" to look for "Extrusive Ore," "Berries" or various types of copper.
colicoid
Thu Mar 24, 2005 7:05 am
#7
1. The ability to have crates of melee weapons show up at the melee weapons category as well. Implemented as a checkbox.
2. The ability to sort decending/acending according to various properties of the object, such as finding the weapon with the lowest speed. Highest max dmg.
Perhaps some sort of search language could be implemented now when bazaars are becoming increasingly more complex.
Something like this:
speed < 2.5;
cost < 40000;
woundChance > 17;
And it would list all items that match in the whole galaxy!
Im new to the merchant board so please dont flame me if anything of this has been requested before. .)
AlariFairlyn
Thu Mar 24, 2005 10:56 am
#8
Good ideas peeps. The Galaxy Vendor Search is indeed a little cumbersome at the moment, and added granularity would be excellent.
Kyorlana
Thu Mar 24, 2005 11:08 am
#9
I'd change the Furniture breakdown so it is as follows:
Furniture:
- Armoires
- Beds
- Bookshelves
- Cabinets
- Chairs
- Chests
- Couches
- Fountains
- Lighting
- Loot (such as carpets, tech consoles, etc)
- Other (to include bird cages, data terminals, droid detection, ballot boxes, habitats)
- Paintings
- Plants
- Statues
- Tables
Furniture:
- Armoires
- Beds
- Bookshelves
- Cabinets
- Chairs
- Chests
- Couches
- Fountains
- Lighting
- Loot (such as carpets, tech consoles, etc)
- Other (to include bird cages, data terminals, droid detection, ballot boxes, habitats)
- Paintings
- Plants
- Statues
- Tables
jcesare
Thu Mar 24, 2005 3:00 pm
#10
One other suggestion. Add the Vendor/Bazaar category to the item's "examine" window so when we go to look for something similar, we know where to look.
Akaara
Thu Mar 24, 2005 3:12 pm
#11
Also there needs to be some way to package items to sell in sets.
Currently I use a travel pack to put complete ensembles in, but when people search for clothes, they won't be looking in the travel pack section.
Dimear
Thu Mar 24, 2005 3:33 pm
#12
Akaara wrote:
Also there needs to be some way to package items to sell in sets.
Currently I use a travel pack to put complete ensembles in, but when people search for clothes, they won't be looking in the travel pack section.
Ya - and Lightsaber Resource Kits too. Needs to be a new category under Weapons. Maybe even a category called Weapon -> Dimear's Lightsaber Resource Kits. That would be sweet 
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colicoid
Thu Mar 24, 2005 4:52 pm
#13
The "Entrance fee" field takes up all the space, we cant see the full name of item actually beeing sold.
Could we please get some kind of "disable field" function?
That way I could remove that field and perhaps a few more to view more of the name of the ware.
Btw, who uses enrance fees other then to get xp?
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