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Thread: SHOWSTOPPER Vendor Init-bug Makes this game immediately worthless
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EpiFett
Thu Jan 22, 2004 7:17 am
#1
ok NOW my entire merchant-system is royally screwed.
not only did my 5 new vendorsbreak 15 min after i made them and was putting items onto them... now i can still see PHANTOM ITEMS in my regional inventory...
But are they the phantom items of the items i just put onto the vendors? NOOOOOOOO that would make sense.
These are items that remained in some phantom regional-inventory WELL AFTER i had completely deleted all vendors i owned, and had my vendor count reset.
How can items exist in Regional, but NOT local inventories?
So basically i have NO proof i just lost 15 Landspeeders, and considering the last compenation i recieved (REALLY crap grinding metals) last time,i wouldnt be able to rebuild the bikes i lost if i got the materials anyways.
Are there other people playing this game in such a HORRIBLY broken state?
Seriously, this problem has completely and totally destroyed my character.
I had an established customer base, i invested a LOT of time into handpicking the materials i used to create every item individually, of not only the best quality, but VARIED qualities to provide an extensive selection for all budgets.
Now, that is all crap.
My vendors are broken again, I have less than 50,000 credits, and absolutely NO POSSIBLE WAY of moving over 75 (well 60 now thanks to this crap) vehicles, and the hoards of resources i want to sell now that i have no desire to be a crafter anymore.
How can i play this game if i cant sell the wares i craft.
This bug is a VERY LARGE SHOWSTOPPER.
not only did my 5 new vendorsbreak 15 min after i made them and was putting items onto them... now i can still see PHANTOM ITEMS in my regional inventory...
But are they the phantom items of the items i just put onto the vendors? NOOOOOOOO that would make sense.
These are items that remained in some phantom regional-inventory WELL AFTER i had completely deleted all vendors i owned, and had my vendor count reset.
How can items exist in Regional, but NOT local inventories?
So basically i have NO proof i just lost 15 Landspeeders, and considering the last compenation i recieved (REALLY crap grinding metals) last time,i wouldnt be able to rebuild the bikes i lost if i got the materials anyways.
Are there other people playing this game in such a HORRIBLY broken state?
Seriously, this problem has completely and totally destroyed my character.
I had an established customer base, i invested a LOT of time into handpicking the materials i used to create every item individually, of not only the best quality, but VARIED qualities to provide an extensive selection for all budgets.
Now, that is all crap.
My vendors are broken again, I have less than 50,000 credits, and absolutely NO POSSIBLE WAY of moving over 75 (well 60 now thanks to this crap) vehicles, and the hoards of resources i want to sell now that i have no desire to be a crafter anymore.
How can i play this game if i cant sell the wares i craft.
This bug is a VERY LARGE SHOWSTOPPER.
DocSavag
Thu Jan 22, 2004 7:28 am
#2
Of course in the short term there only thing you can do is file a CSR ticket and try to work out something. You might consider moving your location. It has been established that vendor issues can be worse in certain areas (most notably on a server boundry) than in others.
For the long term I know that the vendor initialization issues are high on the priority list to get fixed. What does that mean? It means they are expending resources on trying to nail down what causes it and fix those issues. The problem with errors of this type is that they are almost always not just one thing but several different things that can cause the same result. So they fix one and then you find three more.
EpiFett
Thu Jan 22, 2004 7:35 am
#3
Those 5 vendors were bugged within 20 minutes of my Previous ticket regarding bugged vendors was resolved.
DocSavag
Thu Jan 22, 2004 7:40 am
#4
EpiFett wrote:
Those 5 vendors were bugged within 20 minutes of my Previous ticket regarding bugged vendors was resolved.
I know...it is devastating I am sure. I had a bug early on in this game that destroyed two full vendors within 4 days. I managed to get compensated for one of them. I wish I had some magical soluton for you. I don't. I can only tell you that I would probably try another location for a bit and see if the issue stops happening. I would also tend to put less on the vendor and restock it more often until you have confidence that it isn't happening again.
EpiFett
Thu Jan 22, 2004 9:48 am
#5
Ok...
I deleted my old tent, and created a new tent on the other side of my city, about 250m away.
I created 6 new vendors, and loaded them up with 1 item each (random crap) and priced it at 999999999cr.
I went VERY slow, and did not rush them in any way, i made each one, and initialized it 3 min after i placed it, then paid maintenance 3 min after i initialized it.
I took my time making the greeting bark for my temp vendor (come back later for vehicles) at each window.
after i was finished totally about 45 min later, they were all still running, and so i logged for the night.
Hopefully when i get back on in about 10 hours they will STILL be running and i can try adding about 10 junk items to each one to see if they hold.
if they do, i will add the real stuff, and remove the junk...
I hope to god i dont lose everything this time...
I deleted my old tent, and created a new tent on the other side of my city, about 250m away.
I created 6 new vendors, and loaded them up with 1 item each (random crap) and priced it at 999999999cr.
I went VERY slow, and did not rush them in any way, i made each one, and initialized it 3 min after i placed it, then paid maintenance 3 min after i initialized it.
I took my time making the greeting bark for my temp vendor (come back later for vehicles) at each window.
after i was finished totally about 45 min later, they were all still running, and so i logged for the night.
Hopefully when i get back on in about 10 hours they will STILL be running and i can try adding about 10 junk items to each one to see if they hold.
if they do, i will add the real stuff, and remove the junk...
I hope to god i dont lose everything this time...
DocSavag
Thu Jan 22, 2004 10:33 am
#6
EpiFett wrote:
Ok...
I deleted my old tent, and created a new tent on the other side of my city, about 250m away.
I created 6 new vendors, and loaded them up with 1 item each (random crap) and priced it at 999999999cr.
I went VERY slow, and did not rush them in any way, i made each one, and initialized it 3 min after i placed it, then paid maintenance 3 min after i initialized it.
I took my time making the greeting bark for my temp vendor (come back later for vehicles) at each window.
after i was finished totally about 45 min later, they were all still running, and so i logged for the night.
Hopefully when i get back on in about 10 hours they will STILL be running and i can try adding about 10 junk items to each one to see if they hold.
if they do, i will add the real stuff, and remove the junk...
I hope to god i dont lose everything this time...
I hope so too. If that works please include those steps in a /bug report. Helping the devs track down this stuff is very important to everyone in this forum.
Zalmun
Thu Jan 22, 2004 12:51 pm
#7
If you still have phantom items in your inventory, you can remove them from sale, and they will be available in the regional stockroom.
One thing I've found out is that you can pull items out of the regional stockroom from any vendor. I had EXACTLY the same problem you had with disappearing vendors, and having ghosted items, and I found out through experimentation that this does work.
If you don't want to risk it, you can wait for a CSR to refund you the cash for the items, but they might not be too happy if you get the cash, then pull the items out.
One thing I've found out is that you can pull items out of the regional stockroom from any vendor. I had EXACTLY the same problem you had with disappearing vendors, and having ghosted items, and I found out through experimentation that this does work.
If you don't want to risk it, you can wait for a CSR to refund you the cash for the items, but they might not be too happy if you get the cash, then pull the items out.
Zalmun
Thu Jan 22, 2004 12:53 pm
#8
One thing I've found out is that you can pull items out of the regional stockroom from any vendor.
Any vendor in that region, is what I meant to say there.
EpiFett
Thu Jan 22, 2004 4:15 pm
#9
Zalmun wrote:
One thing I've found out is that you can pull items out of the regional stockroom from any vendor.
Any vendor in that region, is what I meant to say there.
actually, lol.. what you describe works for the 'planet' option also.
my new tent is far enough away that 'regional' doesnt work, so now my phantom items are in 'planet' and 'galaxie'.
i moved them to the stockroom so they will evenetually get deleted hopefully
Zalmun
Thu Jan 22, 2004 10:35 pm
#10
If you set up a vendor in the region where your items are in the stockroom, you should be able to get them out.
Like I said, this worked for me. You don't have to use the exact vendor to retrieve items from the stockroom.
Like I said, this worked for me. You don't have to use the exact vendor to retrieve items from the stockroom.
Draznar
Fri Jan 23, 2004 8:51 am
#11
Zalmun wrote:
If you set up a vendor in the region where your items are in the stockroom, you should be able to get them out.
Like I said, this worked for me. You don't have to use the exact vendor to retrieve items from the stockroom.
This does not work on items that are ghosted by deleteing a vendor. 
Elorraso
Sat Jan 24, 2004 5:45 am
#12
hey bro are you in naturius server if so I'll help you out if you give me you name i no what that can be like so i'll bank credit you 300k if your on my server bro ok.
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