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Thread: Serious Merchants (Non-hologrinders) how did you get started?

OckVofad
Thu May 06, 2004 10:08 pm
#1


Well I did it. This is day one of my new shop on Bloodfin outside Theed. I am currently spamming the Theed Starport. Does anyone have any good stories about how they started out? I got Master artisan and DE and had to build up a ton of resources before opening shop. Any tips?



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MasterJian
Thu May 06, 2004 10:36 pm
#2

Hmmmmm.. The good ole days..

Well I'm a tailor, and I started out shortly after my server opened.. Things were a lot different then.. Heck it was a good month before I even had a building, because no one could make them yet and the 20k for a small house might as well have been a mil at that time..

I've run a very successful business for a long time now, although I should change my sig as I have officially closed down until further notice.. I'm not all that familiar with the droid business, but what I can tell you from my experiences is that good service is a MUST for a successful business.. Keep your vendors well stocked, and be sure that you are knowledgable about your products.. This probably wouldn't work as well for you, but I sold "gift certificates".. Those were very popular.. I guess my best advice for you would be to know your customers, and know your niche.. Don't be afraid to try new things.. Build a reputation, and you will be in very good shape..

Personally I think starport spamming is a good way to get iggied, more then anything else.. There are lots of things you can do though to get your name out there.. An ad or "stock update" on your server trade forum is very helpful.. Also I have found that in my business word of mouth has been the best advertising of all.. That may or may not be the case with your business, but keep it in mind.. Happy customers do send other people your way..

Ok that was my 2 creds.. Good luck with your shop, and grats..



*--*--*--seki---*--*--*---Master Tailor---*--*--*---Master Merchant---*--*--*---Master Artisan--*--*--* -- Valcyln
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GarenTore
Thu May 06, 2004 11:09 pm
#3

...so Im sitting at Coronet Starport, in the waiting lounge, hand making projectile rifle barrels without the aide of a macro. I'd ground around 87k worth of exp that day, and was on the edge of insanity, but I knew within 5-10 barrels exactly how many I had left, and be damned if I was gonna stop now. The magic number rolled around, I had the last of the Weapon Crafting exp I needed, found an extremely friendly player, whose name I have ashamedly forgotten, was taught Master Weaponsmith, and much rejoicing commenced.


And I deleted the six Weapon crafting tools I had. Damned things.


So great, I made Master Weaponsmith, buthow was I going to get my goods out there, into the populace.


"Youve got Business 3 right Az'?," asked Ay'lish, our Master Tailor.


"Yup, sure do, Master Artisan be me," I replied.


"I'll add you to the admin of my Kaadara store, you can pop down a vendor in the front room if you like,"


If I like?! Hell yes I like! Ay'lish's store was situated right on the buildzone straight outside Kaadara on the beach. Due to her hard work she had a massive customer base, and was always busy. Getting an offer to place a vendor there, in the front room of all places was a godsend. Awesome. This was gonna be great.


I placed my first vendor, one of those massive terminal things and stocked it with everything my (at the time) small resource collection would allow me to. Since Ay'lish and I both played during the same timezone, I was often in the store while she was busy doing consultation with her customers. She'd often have a queue of folks waiting, and I found that while she was busy with one person, others would come ask me about this pistol, or that rifle, or that sword. Busy started to grow, the vendor was producing plenty of sales, and the exp was growing. \


From memory I went theHiring line first, for vendor types. I pulled down my bulky terminal vendor and replaced it with two big Wookies, one dark and one light. I didnt know at the time that extra vendors equaled more exp simply by having them placed, so from the Hiring line I went to Advertising, up to 3 so I could advertise on the map. It was great racing other folks online after server down so I could be the first to register my vendors, theyd be at the top of the list that way. Heh, youngins to the skill wouldnt know about that though, I guess. From there it was Management and eventually Efficiency.


Eventually I moved out of Ay'lish's house, into my own directly hers, teamed up with another Master Weaponsmith (Soar)for quite a few months, and established ourselves as some of the best Weaponsmiths on Ahazi.


I now run five vendors for stock, four of which sell weapons, and one that sells resources. After moving out of Ay'lish's place into my own, Ive only ever used Mon Cal species as my vendors. They look great with their varied coloured skins and patterns, and can wear all clothing, mine are currently dressed the same as me, hehe. My sixth vendor is a stockroom only. I wish there was a better way to store items in SWG, so that I could use the vendor for something else, but there isnt, so I lose in some respect that way.


Heres some pics I took to display the lighting in my house, but which showcase my vendors pretty well.


Ay's Powerup Vendors These are dressed in the black smocks with red sashes I used to have all my vendors dressed in. The black looks really good against the coloured Mon Cal skins.


My Pistol, Carbine and Rifle Vendors Drssed in blue slacks, grey shirt, black duster. They look like me. They look cool. Heh.







Az' - Master Weaponsmith
Everything dies baby, thats a fact.
Maybe everything that dies someday comes back..


Iplyvi
Fri May 07, 2004 2:31 am
#4

Hey Az'! I know your shop and I remember your kindness. You sold me a republic blaster at a somewhat reduced cost because I didn't quite have the credits to buy it at full price. This was back in October I think, so that is a lifetime ago, no?


I started my shop on Dantooine after my guild executed a hasty move there a couple of months ago. I had recently mastered chef so I started with a few vendors that separated the choices into categories like "Skill Foods", "Combat Foods", etc. I also put a lot of work into designing the place to be interesting to visit. Finally my other big decisions was that I didn't have the desire to sit all day and spam a starport. So to support that, I decided that customer service/contact was the key. I started an email newsletter, complete with colored text and ascii art. As this was right around the time of the chef revamp, I made sure to talk about the different choices, and gave blurbs for each type. I would rely heavily on word of mouth to get going. I also decided to offer as many choices of food that my resources would allow, and that has done well to attract many different customers.


After all that, I went and mastered Artisan and Architect and placed a vendor for furniture/fireworks and one for harvesters/structures. As a final touch, our mayor placed a nice garden without outdoor tables and allowed me to claim it as my 'Outdoor Cafe' complete with a merchant tent vendor selling single stacks of my food (the other vendors sell crates).


I'm sure I'm not the biggest merchant out there, far from it. But I am not as handicapped as maybe some would think since I am on Dantooine. I also have a fiercely loyal customer base that grows almost daily of both guildmates and non-guildmates. It is their excitement and accolades that keep me crafting away.


I do wish I had enough skill points to master merchant, so that is dissapointing. But maybe someday. For now, I am totally enjoying my role in the game and the feeling of helping people understand the game or play harder, rather than just raking in the bucks. While most of my credits are put back into resources, I did taketime to acquire one guilty pleasure - the AV21! I love it and finally enjoy running out and checking harvesters. It cost me WAY too much, but it is still worth it!


Good luck with YOUR adventure. You don't have to have combat to have a truly rewarding time here.






Iplyvi Olis
Master Architect, Chef & Artisan
The Jungle Spice Cafe' and ArchTech Designs
1010 -6090 Dantooine, Ahazi
only 600m from the agro outpost
(and as Katyryyhn: Master Heavy Swordsman & Brawler)
_KernMist
Fri May 07, 2004 5:50 am
#5

I had a house for quite a while, whilst I made my way through the Artisan tree. Then I got to engineering 4 and picked up DE. Panicked when I realised that I needed loads of MA components, so ground out Master Artisan Once there i continued my DE path. Once I got to blueprints 4 and could do a range of droids I placed a vendor to sell some of the small stuff I made.


Business was slack, but I could hardly expect anything else - I was only selling MSE's and R5's... mainly with Med modules in them.


Shortly after this a chap who lived next door (and was to become a good friend) had a medium house and started selling his weapons. He started buying MA components off me as he wasn't MA himself and so my finances stretched a little. Soon I had Merchant XP coming at a good rate and it was after I hit Master Merchant that I moved to a medium house. I decorated this house out to look like a real DE's house and registered on the Planetary Map. I hit MDE the day before Publish 8


Now I have two stores:- my original (medium house) just south of Mos Epsa and a new small store a little distance from Mos Eisley.


Business is getting better all the time thanks to word of mouth and I'm now pulling enough creds to survive without having to run missions... I'll never forget the day my bank balance reached 10k for the first time.. seemed like so much cash at the time...lol. Last weekend my balance reached 500k for the first time so the only real barrier left unbroken is 1 mil. Not that i'm after cash really, I just want to produce the best droids available



Wracca
Master Droid Engineer
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OckVofad
Fri May 07, 2004 8:25 am
#6

Thanks guys. I thought this would be an interesting thread. I opened up th shop to sell MA stuff (Vehicles, etc) and hopefully droids. Droids are a guilty pleasure for me i enjoy the crafting of them rather than hoping for a huge payoff. I'd like the store to support my grind to Master Armorsmith. I am still running survey missions right now so i got a long way to go. Hehehe.



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GoCanes
Fri May 07, 2004 9:52 am
#7

My guild originally had a DE who was going Master Merchant and would host a vendor for each of our crafters... But he had some RL issues that caused him to have to take a long break, so two of us picked up Merchant to cover till he could return... I've never looked back... ^_^


I was Master Architect two weeks into the game so stocking harvestors and furniture on vendors was great... No spamming at Starports, just give a waypoint to my vendor... When people asked about my pricing I would tell them I'll mail a pricelist (which also included my vendor waypoints... ^_^) Easy work for me and I could dedicate more time to my crafting...


Now that I have given up Architect (only keep NoviceArchitect to do my 44.39442 rated crafting stations and 15.00 rated tools), I have enough skill points to pick up combat professions... I only run two vendors at teh time, but keep Master in case I need to drop temporary vendors while moving or placing in a mini-mall, etc...



GoCanes - Radiant Server - Pikeman
44.3+ Crafting Stations and 15.00 Crafting Tools outside Theed, Naboo at -4760 5332
Resources and Radioactives Vendor located 1k outside Coronet, Corellia at 892 -4844
Starting active duty to Iraq 27 November 2004, so I may not be able to stock afterwards

p4Samwise
Fri May 07, 2004 11:56 am
#8

Once I hit Weapon Technique 4, I decided to try my hand at selling some of the stuff I was crafting for higher than the 3k bazaar cap. So I found a nice spot, bought a nice little house (small generic 2a, best floor plan in the entire game, but I had to go through four different architects to find one who knew which schematic it was), and put my coke machine down.


I had originally started the game with the intent of being a Merchant (and given up on it after I found that most crafters just sold their own goods directly), but I didn't give much thought to the Merchant tree until I noticed that I had maxed on Business experience without even trying. I still had some skill points left, so I said "why not?" and got Novice Merchant.


The rest is history. Best thing about this profession: you can actually play the profession, have fun with it, and get XP all at the same time. No stupid grinding required.



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GarenTore
Fri May 07, 2004 3:56 pm
#9






p4Samwise wrote:



The rest is history. Best thing about this profession: you can actually play the profession, have fun with it, and get XP all at the same time. No stupid grinding required.






Damn right!



Az' - Master Weaponsmith
Everything dies baby, thats a fact.
Maybe everything that dies someday comes back..


verticalis
Fri May 07, 2004 8:01 pm
#10




I used to have a small house outside Anchor Head I shared with a friend, wemainly sold vechiles at insanely cheap prices.. then one day i was getting trained in my frist box of merchant and I met a really cool guy who had an awesome large house filled with vendors andit was decorated magnicently.. i thought "that is what i want".. he told me he was joining a city and me and a friend should join too... i placed a small house in the citywith 2 tailor vendors in it.. about three weeks laterI hit efficency 4.. placed a tent in the city's merchant complex and never looked back...the merchant complex in our city nowhas about 25-30 tents and one thing I didn't know at the timewas thatwe had awell know chef vendor and equally respected weaponsmith vendor..


This is what madethe difference... find a great shopping city that has well known stores/well stocked vendors,and see if they'll let you place a vendor in their mall/merchant district. Basically people will come to such a town anyway to visit their favourite architect/WS/AS/Tailor/whatever and they'll see your vendor/tent and they'll have a little look to see what you've got in stock...My store is alsodecorated with all kinds of things like alarge twi'lex painting, endor painting, seats for my customers, candles and junkon a table,almost everyone who comes in says how great my store looks, you can bet they'll remembertheir visit.. I go into so many tents and just see some ugly looking vendor staring back at me in an otherwise empty tent... well that's memorable.


Another thing that helps is the sig,, get a sig that pimps your vendor and get posting on you server's forums...


Pls don't spam coronet or theed though,people who do this either lookneedy/new or just holo-grinders desperate for xp. If you need to spam to get people to visit your vendor then your vendors are simplyin the wrong place. And like someone else said, spamming Coronet/Theedit's a good way to get added to people's ignore lists espeically the docs who buff in such big cities.






aSAquaviSa
Fish With a Stick
Vermicious_Knid
Wed May 19, 2004 2:02 pm
#11

I started out placing houses in two places outside Naboo and spamming to advertise them.Strictly resale on things I found cheap in a variety of places. Limited stock of high-demand items. Brandy, stimpacks, muon, things like that. If I found a bargain on something Ibought it up and put that on there too.


Did multiple millions in sales each week but the spam got to the point where I was even annoying myself.


Closed the vendor house and asked a chef I had been selling to if I could set up shop next to his vendor. He put me in touch with the guy in charge and I am now colocated with a prominent chef, armorsmith, weaponsmith, and med vendor.


I have one vendor selling a hodgepodge of things I come across and one selling discount resources. I mine resources constantly, I take some on consignment from people I know, and I buy up estates and underpriced vendors. Organics I often kill myself or buy directly and resell.


A third vendor in my guild city sells stimpacks and brandy, mostly as a courtesy to the guild. I make my money on the resources.


I have never crafted a single thing to sell, and I have made tons of money as a merchant. There is always someone selling for less than the market will bear, to provide all the stock I can handle.




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TwiZzoT
Wed May 19, 2004 6:01 pm
#12

Personally I think starport spamming is a good way to get iggied, more then anything else



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Songe
Wed May 19, 2004 8:38 pm
#13

I started as tailor next to Coronet, I was just making clothes with my waypoint in their name and putting them in bazaar until I got advertizing 3 (which took a long time lol).



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