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Thread: Ship sales, going fast

Casmaran
Thu Oct 28, 2004 10:55 am
#1

Im on bria, I can drop a ship related item on the bazaar and have them gone in 5 minutes.

Put on my vendor and there not going as fast. been selling novice stuff for 3-5K each on parts, have seen novice chassies selling for 6K on the bazarr but there not going as fast.


Parts are where the money is at, loot parts will sell for more, they have a better QL then a newbie shipwright can make.


Fix the "Ship" tab on the vendor advertising, for now im using "components" and naming my vendors "ship parts"


I have seen some people going overboard with the prices, shipwright stations, tools, and stuff are getting out of hand. Thank SOE that we dont need a factory



*Okee (Bria)-Master Artisan - Master merchant - Novic Shipwright - marksman (0/4/0/4) - Novice Pistoleer - 4-4-4-3 Privateer Pilot
*Owe (Valcyn) Master Muscian - TK Student
*Shisshar (wanderhome) Novice BH - Master scout - Master marksman
DocSavag
Thu Oct 28, 2004 1:01 pm
#2

I've had several chassis sales. I dont' have any components up yet because I blew most of my resouce stacks on mastering and the rest is going to outfit the guild. But tonight and tomrrow I should start getitng more items on the vendor.

My looted component vendor is going up today. The guild needs an outlet for our phat space loot



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Chataka Windae
Rifleman/Combat Medic
CEO, Windae Enterprises
Mesric Sanctuary Founder



Dimear
Thu Oct 28, 2004 6:25 pm
#3

On Shadowfire, I'm seeing a huge variety in prices. And everything is selling. I'd say average price for tier-2 ships is 100k. A friend of mine is master shipwright with FS crafting skills using 900+ OQ materials. He's selling tier-2 chassis for 125k, tier 3 (Y-wing longprobe, etc) for 300k. And these are still flying off the shelves as fast as he can restock. There are also some very very low priced vendors on my server. I saw 1 reputable crafter selling all ships for 1 cpu. So instead of 125k, his are 15k. He's not a master yet - just grinding SW by actually crafting stuff. I'm sure he's using grinding materials and no experimentation, and I doubt the completed ships will have enough mass to hold every type of component, but still - 1 cpu is amazing.

I'm actually encouraging my friend to charge more though. With his crafting skills (and great crafting stations, tools, food, drink), he'll be one of the best ship crafters on the server. He also spent many millions on the best resources about a day after the beta started. Spent 6-10 cpu on millions of units of the best resources needed for high level ships. I'm encouraging him to charge at least 30 cpu for a ship made with those resources. I personally doubt they'll be worth that much, but some people have too much money and like to spend it on the best.

Until then, he's just working 24/7 trying to keep stock on the shelves...





Thus sayeth Dimear

DocSavag
Thu Oct 28, 2004 11:06 pm
#4

The experimentation on Mass doesn't increase it that much. For the tier 0 ships its significant only because they are so freaking low in mass to begin with. After that the difference isn't worth thousands of credits



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Chataka Windae
Rifleman/Combat Medic
CEO, Windae Enterprises
Mesric Sanctuary Founder



DocSavag
Fri Oct 29, 2004 4:56 am
#5

Well 1 cpu is just nuts you can sell the resources for at least 2x that and that doesn't include your time of the cost of mastering the profession. 3-5 cpu is a minimum people should be charging for the chassis.



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Chataka Windae
Rifleman/Combat Medic
CEO, Windae Enterprises
Mesric Sanctuary Founder



LonelyGhost
Fri Oct 29, 2004 10:50 am
#6

I was both happy and a little disappointed at the results of experimentation on most of SW parts. Happy because it means that newer SW will be able to *sell* the stuff they make becuase the difference is not so vast like in WS or AS. Disappointed, well, cause I wanted to make stuff that was a little better in more area's. But overall I am really glad. I think its more important to have a LOT of SW out running a business!


I think selling anything in the game at 1cpu is a bit silly. It sure doesnt seem that such a person values their time that much. And it also hurts the crafters around you. But its been my experience that people who price too low end up leaving pretty quick. Bump in the road.



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Dimear
Fri Oct 29, 2004 12:47 pm
#7

I believe you. If I had to spend money on any of this, I'd buy the 1 cpu ships. But people will still pay incredible amounts of money for small differences in quality. My friend made many millions credits today selling at (what I consider to be) reasonable prices. Anyone who planned ahead and was prepared to grind shipwright quickly is probably making bank today.

Word of advice to other shipwrights who want quick cash - make friends with merchants. I had my spambots advertising for my friend, and he's also a master merchant with his own spambots. All that advertising really paid off. He had so many customers that he had trouble keeping ships on the shelves. He logged out for a 1/2 hour break and logged back in 6 million credits richer. Was nice to see someone who had no previous source of significant income strike it rich with a master shipwright / master merchant combo...





Thus sayeth Dimear

Lomena
Sat Oct 30, 2004 1:34 pm
#8

hey dimear, where is your friends shop?


I haven't bought JtL yet, but with all this buzz going on, i feel kinda left out =(


Ohh, and be sure to check my shop, listed in my sig, new resources added almost daily



Ane'mol Industries
Ranger Resource Inc

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Dimear
Sat Oct 30, 2004 2:23 pm
#9

It's Spaceballs Spacecraft in Brenn on Naboo. I think there are 8 shipwrights in Brenn now though (apologies for anyone not on Shadowfire- Brenn is a merchant city on Shadowfire). It's just off the shuttleport, #4 N. Main St. The crafter's name is Sma-oceti. I have spambots set up today in Bestine, Theed, and Coronet if you want an actual waypt.







Thus sayeth Dimear

Casmaran
Sun Oct 31, 2004 10:34 am
#10

Well it looks like on Bria that ship related stuff has hit its saturation limit, not selling much anymore, and people are giving away chassie's. This was somthing I was afraid of, do thies items decay, will the current level of supplies just be rotated around?


Mon Cal parts are the things to keep your eyes on, engines of there's tend to be very good in the speed area. allthough at one time the speed rating meant somthing, but now your going to still be slower then what the engine is rated for. Yachts used to run at 400, now there slower, I dont know what is up with it, it doesnt make sense.



*Okee (Bria)-Master Artisan - Master merchant - Novic Shipwright - marksman (0/4/0/4) - Novice Pistoleer - 4-4-4-3 Privateer Pilot
*Owe (Valcyn) Master Muscian - TK Student
*Shisshar (wanderhome) Novice BH - Master scout - Master marksman
jassi007
Mon Nov 01, 2004 9:53 am
#11

Sma is making very nice quality parts, which is why they're doing such good business. her chassis could stand to be a bit less expensive though. The thing with the chassi, almost everyones is the same as far as mass and hp, very little difference, but the prices are all over the board.

1cpu is crazy. So is 100k for a novice ship. Somewhere inbetween lies the answer.

Tell Sma to concentrate on weapons and shields. That is the area where I've seen shipwrights best able to outdo looted parts.



Jassi Cowin
Master Doctor/ Master Swordsman
Officially Klaws biznitch.
"I don't do hawtpants"
DocSavag
Mon Nov 01, 2004 10:23 am
#12

My chassis sell for about 5cpu and that is fair considering the cost of becoming a master in Shipwright. Anything underthat and I could sell the resources for more than the ship.

I haven't reached the saturation point yet on Starsider and frankly a lot of people don't even have the game yet espeically overseas. And the positive buzz about the expansion so far is probably goign to up the number of copies sold over the next few weeks.



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Chataka Windae
Rifleman/Combat Medic
CEO, Windae Enterprises
Mesric Sanctuary Founder



Casmaran
Mon Nov 01, 2004 9:31 pm
#13

saturation points will come and go, yes im holding out on the Euro second comming, but the fact that things have dipped down so fast has me concerned over all.


Imagine the New sw comming in 6 months from now, would he be able to sell anything? if he could it would be a tiny fraction of the cost to get up to the big boys. The results will be, forcing combat on a person just to make cash for crafting. unless that guy takes a even slower route of building up a mining operation to full tilt, selling resources and hold on to a few for crafting, its never going to be like the rate it is now.


I was around on day one. and even now I havent sold a CDEF pistol in 8 months. infact what have a CDEF pistol in the game when no one except a newbie who gets one for free is going to use it?


well then there are chance cubes that never sold from the first day they came out.


After combat revamp comes out then Crafting needs the love, crafting after all is now 1/3 of the game, combat and space being the others. Lets throw some merchant in there for good luck, we need beter vendor management tools, market analisis, a stock market. how about graphs that and track item pricing trends or a pirod of time? Its been done in other games and quite well.



*Okee (Bria)-Master Artisan - Master merchant - Novic Shipwright - marksman (0/4/0/4) - Novice Pistoleer - 4-4-4-3 Privateer Pilot
*Owe (Valcyn) Master Muscian - TK Student
*Shisshar (wanderhome) Novice BH - Master scout - Master marksman
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