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Thread: Juke box Question
-run to the cnet hotel
-buy jukebox
-head back to the shop
-put down jukebox
-select corellian soothing
-start crafting
-relog in about 30-45 mins once i crash
-deliberate how long I am going to still be crafting
-run to the cnet hotel
-buy jukebox
-head back to the shop
-put down jukebox
-select corellian soothing
-start crafting
-relog in about 30-45 mins once i crash
-deliberate how long I am going to still be crafting
-run to the cnet hotel
-buy jukebox
-head back to the shop
-put down jukebox
-select corellian soothing
-start crafting
-relog in about 30-45 mins once i crash
-deliberate how long I am going to still be crafting
Yep...I logged off right after placing a jukebox down in my vendor house and logged back in about 20 minutes later......it was gone.
They should last a week or even a month and cost a ridiculous price like 500k or even more. I would be willing to pay knowing it wouldstill be there when I logged back in. Would limit everyone from having one, keeping it's "rare" value.
WhatJukeboxes should be, in my opinion, is player-crafted by Musicians.
The unit itself would be customizable with different looks and colors to match decor. It wouldnever disappear. It would, however, require new music after the current disk burnt out.
Musicians could then create and sell music data disks, which would be required to make the jukebox function. New songs would be available through Musician quests, to allow people to have special music in their jukeboxes.
Honestly, tell me - when was the last time you ever saw a jukebox in real life that was 100% exactly what another jukebox had in it - AND no Musician whatsoever was involved in the jukebox functioning (if there were no records/CD's in the jukebox, what would they play?).
This is just one of pretty much every item that I feel an NPC got, instead of the Entertainer professions. It would have been better for the entire game community, and it would have added content to Entertainers. Instead, it's a money sink, and horribly ill-conceived one, at that.
Point in case - buy a really cool stage to host an event on. Place it, invite your friends. Now go LD. Really ruins the event when the stage disappears.
Message Edited by Rehavam on 07-13-2005 11:00 PM
Warryyr,if I didn't have a rule about not quotingentire messages, I'd quote yours in full. Simply brilliant.
I don't want to complain about being given some funnon-combat perks; it's a step in the right direction. And having jukeboxes available through NPCs is better than not having them at all -- the developers deserve credit for taking the time to implement this feature.
But if it's fun, why restrict that fun to NPCs who can't enjoy it and won't pay a $15/month subscription fee to do it?
Jukeboxes, likecybernetic limbs,could have beenimplemented as asystem through whichnon-combat playerscould have activefun while servinga useful purpose. Instead, these and other features were simplified downto beingan NPC function.
Why?
Theapproach you describewould absolutely have been themost satisfyingway to implement jukeboxes... from the player's point of view. So I can only think that there must have been some higher priority reason to just do it with an NPC.
Was it too technically complicated?
Was it to ship it faster, since a player interface would require more development time?
Was it that the feature wasn't important enough to warrant the additional development time?
Was it to avoid having to consider and prevent ways that players could abuse the feature?
I wish I knew. Not because jukeboxes are a critical feature without which SWG will collapse; it's not that important. I just wonderwhetherthis approachisan indicator of a design philosophy or merely a technical or business decision. Knowingthat would tell us something useful about whether we should continue to suggest enhancements, and if so, what kinds of suggestions would be more helpful.
--Flatfingers
Warryyr wrote:
WhatJukeboxes should be, in my opinion, is player-crafted by Musicians.
The unit itself would be customizable with different looks and colors to match decor. It wouldnever disappear. It would, however, require new music after the current disk burnt out.
Musicians could then create and sell music data disks, which would be required to make the jukebox function. New songs would be available through Musician quests, to allow people to have special music in their jukeboxes.
Honestly, tell me - when was the last time you ever saw a jukebox in real life that was 100% exactly what another jukebox had in it - AND no Musician whatsoever was involved in the jukebox functioning (if there were no records/CD's in the jukebox, what would they play?).
This is just one of pretty much every item that I feel an NPC got, instead of the Entertainer professions. It would have been better for the entire game community, and it would have added content to Entertainers. Instead, it's a money sink, and horribly ill-conceived one, at that.
Point in case - buy a really cool stage to host an event on. Place it, invite your friends. Now go LD. Really ruins the event when the stage disappears.
I love this idea. It's great. Surely it wouldn't take a lot of coding to get it done.
Warryyr wrote:
WhatJukeboxes should be, in my opinion, is player-crafted by Musicians.
The unit itself would be customizable with different looks and colors to match decor. It wouldnever disappear. It would, however, require new music after the current disk burnt out.
Musicians could then create and sell music data disks, which would be required to make the jukebox function. New songs would be available through Musician quests, to allow people to have special music in their jukeboxes.
Honestly, tell me - when was the last time you ever saw a jukebox in real life that was 100% exactly what another jukebox had in it - AND no Musician whatsoever was involved in the jukebox functioning (if there were no records/CD's in the jukebox, what would they play?).
This is just one of pretty much every item that I feel an NPC got, instead of the Entertainer professions. It would have been better for the entire game community, and it would have added content to Entertainers. Instead, it's a money sink, and horribly ill-conceived one, at that.
Point in case - buy a really cool stage to host an event on. Place it, invite your friends. Now go LD. Really ruins the event when the stage disappears.
I totally LOVE this idea, hopefully someday they will make it a reality, though I hope the same music selections areavailable, not just music that a musician can play.
I totally LOVE this idea, hopefully someday they will make it a reality, though I hope the same music selections areavailable, not just music that a musician can play.
