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Thread: Using someone else lots for you shop

Bermag
Tue Dec 02, 2003 3:19 am
#1

I am thinking of setting up another house/shop and to trade the lots froms some other player (and put me as admin). Can you explain which issues there might be.

Some questions:

1) Can I create/destroy vendors without any problems?

2) Can the lot owner access my vendors (i.e. take items from them)

3) Does it allow me to store items in the house? Can the owner pick it up

4) Is it possible to revoke all rights the lot owner has?

5) What else can the lot owner do that I can't?

Thank you



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kammicazze
Tue Dec 02, 2003 3:33 am
#2

As i am not ingame, some things i can't check. Here are some answers to your questions:


1) You can create and destroy vendors


2) The lot owner can access your vendor like a normal customer, not as an administrator of the vendor


3) You can drop and pick up items in the shop, but any administrator can do so. If you drop something, another administrator could take it up.


4) I'm not shure of this one but i think it isn't possible.


5) Gain a lot when destroying or redeeding the house . But he can't do it with a vendor or stuff inside it.







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Vornado44
Tue Dec 02, 2003 3:38 am
#3

I believe it goes like this


1) yes


2) no


3) yes and yes


4)No. The owner of the house will always have admin rights.


5) Change the name of the house. Destroy the house




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Bermag
Tue Dec 02, 2003 4:19 am
#4

Thx for the input.

Only thing which might be a problem is not be able to rename the house. I might start the shop as my own but want later to change it into a mall or vice versa and want to change the name.

How about signs? Can the admin change them?



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kammicazze
Tue Dec 02, 2003 5:41 am
#5

as i said, i can't test it right now, but for the sign, it isn't a problem. If you have merchant management I-IV you can set the different signs according to your level if you are an adminof the house.






Khammi Cazze - Manager BlackFear Corp.

DocSavag
Tue Dec 02, 2003 5:48 am
#6

Yea about the only thing you can't do as an admin is redeed and change the name. No one can pick up the vendor once it is placed only you can "remove it"





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Fribble
Tue Dec 02, 2003 3:45 pm
#7

Faellyn,


With those 12 shops, are you saying you have 12 vendors? I thought you could only create the max number of six vendors? Or do you mean lots where people are placing their own vendors, where you manage the shop decor and storefront?


Because I would like desperately love to have more vendors.


Thanks.


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Bermag
Tue Dec 02, 2003 4:19 pm
#8

Faellyn, I am well aware of what it mean to rent lots. I am currently running 24 harvesters (soon I get 10 more) with some different deals.


Do you need more lots? You create a character on Wanderhome and I make one on your server and we can swap lots! Cross-server lot trade works much better with static structures than harvesters




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Faellyn
Wed Dec 03, 2003 1:40 am
#9

Some questions:

1) Can I create/destroy vendors without any problems?


Yes, as long as you are on admin, you can create/destroy vendors all day long.

2) Can the lot owner access my vendors (i.e. take items from them)


No.

3) Does it allow me to store items in the house? Can the owner pick it up


Yes to both.

4) Is it possible to revoke all rights the lot owner has?


No. Once you've turned over the house to her, it and everything in it (with the exception of your vendor and it's stock) technically belong to her, and nothing but her trustworthiness is your guarantee. Not that she has the power to re-deed the house at any time, and your vendor, it's inventory, and any of your items stored within the house go poof.

5) What else can the lot owner do that I can't?

Only the lot owner can change the name on the building. The lot owner can remove you from admin at any time. The lot owner can ban you or any of your customers from the house at any time. And, as above, the lot owner can re-deed the house at any time. The lot owner CANNOT make the house private while any vendor is in the building, even if none of the vendors our his.




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Faellyn
Wed Dec 03, 2003 1:43 am
#10

Doh, sorry! ...wasn't quite finished yet.


As long as you understand the limitations of this arrangement, I most highly recommend it. I've currently operating 12 shops and factories (22 lots) under rental agreements, leaving my own lots free for quick response to resource shifts.




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Happymob
Tue Dec 09, 2003 9:35 am
#11




1)Do you need to own your shop to be able to declare residence?



Yes, though I am not sure what happens if you own the structure, declare residency, and then transfer the structure.




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LadyGrey
Tue Dec 09, 2003 10:34 am
#12

The house owner can also take you off the admin list, and start charging a fee to access the house. If the fee is sufficiently large, you would be unable to enter the house.



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DocSavag
Tue Dec 09, 2003 10:45 am
#13






LadyGrey wrote:
The house owner can also take you off the admin list, and start charging a fee to access the house. If the fee is sufficiently large, you would be unable to enter the house.




Any busines relationship must be built on some kind of trust. I wouldn't suggest putting your vendor in the structure owned by someone you didn't trust or someone who didn't come recommended by people you trust.



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