Merchant Archive
Thread: Tunderheart, devs, anyone.. please fix the vendors so we can remove them!
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Lyzi
Wed Mar 10, 2004 2:02 am
#1
I'm the manager of on of the largest mall on eclipse with 25 vendors and 15 different merchants.
The last month a few merchants quit the game without removing their vendors.. and I am sure that all of you who maintain a mall
can see our problem.. we are unable to remove those empty vendors.. only teh vendor owner can delete their vendors and we are
left with 3 empty vendors/spots that we can not replace with a new merchants.
I've argued with CSR about this and they refuse to help us removing them and I can in a way understand why.. they shall
not delete players items.. I do understand this.. BUT vendors are free, you get them for free based on your skills..
The vendor maintainance been bugged since day 1 of this game.. thats umm.. 7-8 month now?
Currently the only way for us to remove the 3 empty vendors is to ask all 15 merchants to remove their vendors and then redeed the building.
But there must be tens of tousands of items in all the vendors in our mall, and this is not an acceptable solution for us.
If my boss stoped paying me my sallary I would walk into our serverroom and take a few servers and go sell them 
Why do these stupid NPC vendors keep working and selling my items without any pay?
I propose that SOE adds a function that allow the house owner a menu on all vendors that deletes them.. but not right away
how about allowing the mall owner to start a 7 day timer where the vendor owner each day receive an email saying
"house owner requested that your vendor is beeing removed, 7 days until it is destroyed"..
This must be fixed soon.. it is very frustrating having a mall with empty vendors and we can not really ask all merchants to remove
all their items just so we can redeed the house.
I belive this post deservs an answer
Pooka
Sun Mar 14, 2004 5:11 am
#3
*agrees full heartedly*
Though there must be some sort of rule to this I guess, otherwise the chance of 'evilness' is huge.
-Oh goodie, now the stupid newbie placed a vendor in my house and filled it. lets delete it!
-Bah! The vendor owner was rude to me. Lets delete his vendors withhundreds upon hundredrares/top-level weapons in it!
Somethign to keep in mind.
Lyzi
Thu Mar 18, 2004 2:44 am
#4
Pooka wrote:
*agrees full heartedly*
Though there must be some sort of rule to this I guess, otherwise the chance of 'evilness' is huge.
-Oh goodie, now the stupid newbie placed a vendor in my house and filled it. lets delete it!
-Bah! The vendor owner was rude to me. Lets delete his vendors withhundreds upon hundredrares/top-level weapons in it!
Somethign to keep in mind.
thats why i want a week delay.. and an emails ent out once a day with a warning..
jbeck
Thu Mar 18, 2004 10:32 am
#5
Lyzi wrote:
Pooka wrote:
*agrees full heartedly*
Though there must be some sort of rule to this I guess, otherwise the chance of 'evilness' is huge.
-Oh goodie, now the stupid newbie placed a vendor in my house and filled it. lets delete it!
-Bah! The vendor owner was rude to me. Lets delete his vendors withhundreds upon hundredrares/top-level weapons in it!
Somethign to keep in mind.
thats why i want a week delay.. and an emails ent out once a day with a warning..
Even a week delay isn't necessarily enough. This feature has too many possibilities to be used as a griefing tool.
My advice to you would be to "suck it up" and re-deed the building. Throw up merchant tents around the mall while your in the process of cleaning out the mall for re-deeding.
Or just live with the empty vendors. Maybe put a couple of potted plants in front of them. In any event, even if the developers thought this was the best idea ever (which they wont) it would take them at least 2 months to implement it.
Lyzi
Sun Mar 21, 2004 12:44 am
#6
jbeck wrote:
Lyzi wrote:
Pooka wrote:
*agrees full heartedly*
Though there must be some sort of rule to this I guess, otherwise the chance of 'evilness' is huge.
-Oh goodie, now the stupid newbie placed a vendor in my house and filled it. lets delete it!
-Bah! The vendor owner was rude to me. Lets delete his vendors withhundreds upon hundredrares/top-level weapons in it!
Somethign to keep in mind.
thats why i want a week delay.. and an emails ent out once a day with a warning..
Even a week delay isn't necessarily enough. This feature has too many possibilities to be used as a griefing tool.
My advice to you would be to "suck it up" and re-deed the building. Throw up merchant tents around the mall while your in the process of cleaning out the mall for re-deeding.
Or just live with the empty vendors. Maybe put a couple of potted plants in front of them. In any event, even if the developers thought this was the best idea ever (which they wont) it would take them at least 2 months to implement it.
just treat vendor decay like any other structure decay..
1. make them stop selling if maintainance is less then 0
2. make them walka way from the mall when you owe them a weeks sallary.
there is no reason vendors should be free, this must be fixed soon.
Pooka
Sun Mar 21, 2004 6:48 am
#7
just treat vendor decay like any other structure decay..
1. make them stop selling if maintainance is less then 0
2. make them walk away from the mall when you owe them a weeks sallary.
there is no reason vendors should be free, this must be fixed soon.
AMEN TO THE WHITES!... but still, vendors are extremely cheap to maintain so lets say the "lost player" paid his vendor 50.000 credits before he vanished?
The house owner SHOULD have some sort of power over this, but what?
Tarnak_Archvold
Sun Mar 21, 2004 8:04 am
#8
I believe UO solved this problem by allowing vendors to be rented out on a monthly basis or something like that.
Simply let the owner of a structure place a vendor name it, dress it, set add barking, map registration, and so on.
Then instead of initialising the vendor, the owner would choose a "rent out" function. And then set a daily fee and or a percentage of the sales.
Then any merchant with the necessary skills could come along and rent that vendor, (and it would count a placing a vendor)
If nothing was done the vendor would remain rented out, but either the structure owner or renter could at any time cancel the "contract" and that would give it a 30 day time out.
Someone who rented a vendor in a building should not be ban able from that building.
Simply let the owner of a structure place a vendor name it, dress it, set add barking, map registration, and so on.
Then instead of initialising the vendor, the owner would choose a "rent out" function. And then set a daily fee and or a percentage of the sales.
Then any merchant with the necessary skills could come along and rent that vendor, (and it would count a placing a vendor)
If nothing was done the vendor would remain rented out, but either the structure owner or renter could at any time cancel the "contract" and that would give it a 30 day time out.
Someone who rented a vendor in a building should not be ban able from that building.
Lyzi
Sun Mar 21, 2004 12:58 pm
#9
Tarnak_Archvold wrote:
I believe UO solved this problem by allowing vendors to be rented out on a monthly basis or something like that.
Simply let the owner of a structure place a vendor name it, dress it, set add barking, map registration, and so on.
Then instead of initialising the vendor, the owner would choose a "rent out" function. And then set a daily fee and or a percentage of the sales.
Then any merchant with the necessary skills could come along and rent that vendor, (and it would count a placing a vendor)
If nothing was done the vendor would remain rented out, but either the structure owner or renter could at any time cancel the "contract" and that would give it a 30 day time out.
Someone who rented a vendor in a building should not be ban able from that building.
I think i like the idea where house owner can "fire" vendors.. with a timer better.. but doesn't matter how they solve it.. aslong they solve it..*
it is frustrating running a mall with vendors thats empty.. 
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