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Thread: WOOHOO!!!!!! a New correspondent!!!!! DOCSAVAG

Karuth
Thu Nov 20, 2003 9:36 am
#1

hey there and congratulations......... ok now to business....... biggest thing we have seen so far and noone at SOE seems to have addressed so far is the merchant vendor XP while being offline we dont get any or we have to stay close and the hosue items loaded to get any ...... any ideas so far im sure youve been seeing this ..... thanks and again congratulations



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DocSavag
Thu Nov 20, 2003 9:52 am
#2






Karuth wrote:
hey there and congratulations......... ok now to business....... biggest thing we have seen so far and noone at SOE seems to have addressed so far is the merchant vendor XP while being offline we dont get any or we have to stay close and the hosue items loaded to get any ...... any ideas so far im sure youve been seeing this ..... thanks and again congratulations




I have already brought this to the devs attention, haven't gotten any response on it yet. I"ll keep pushing it.



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Hydroxide
Thu Nov 20, 2003 2:43 pm
#3

Gratz and welcome!!



Now that's over lets get to it Yes merchant XP, I've been doing alot of research over the last 3 days. Writing times, xp earned, what caused the xp increase etc. It's all at home but here's the latest:


This morning, I stood by one of my vendors (4 more on 3 different planets) for exactly 1 hour and 1 minute. I decided to blast some crafting xp while in my shop. My vendor received a total of 5 visits from peopleover61 minutes. I started this test with 18650 XP exactly 61 minutes later I had 18900. In vendor xpI should have received 750XP plus the 150-200 xp for the visits at my local vendor alone.


conclusion: this is not only when we are logged out that this is a problem.


Hope this helps


-H

DocSavag
Thu Nov 20, 2003 3:28 pm
#4






Hydroxide wrote:

Gratz and welcome!!



Now that's over lets get to it Yes merchant XP, I've been doing alot of research over the last 3 days. Writing times, xp earned, what caused the xp increase etc. It's all at home but here's the latest:


This morning, I stood by one of my vendors (4 more on 3 different planets) for exactly 1 hour and 1 minute. I decided to blast some crafting xp while in my shop. My vendor received a total of 5 visits from peopleover61 minutes. I started this test with 18650 XP exactly 61 minutes later I had 18900. In vendor xpI should have received 750XP plus the 150-200 xp for the visits at my local vendor alone.


conclusion: this is not only when we are logged out that this is a problem.


Hope this helps


-H







It seems consistant that it is related to the vendor being loaded. You only have one vendor in the location you were in correct? The other vendors dont' seem to have given you any xp during that time as the xp you show is pretty consistant wtih one hour of 150xp pluse a couple of visits. (Not all of the 5 people would count becuase of the timer that prevents grinding)





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CEO, Windae Enterprises
Mesric Sanctuary Founder



Xaan
Thu Nov 20, 2003 5:02 pm
#5

Thanks for taking over Doc!






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JTGAlpha
Thu Nov 20, 2003 5:02 pm
#6

Doc. You might also want to check to see if this is tied in with Vendors disappearing as well. Since they "disappear" when no one is looking, perhaps they STAY unitialized upon occasion when they are supposed to reappear because of lag, latency, whatever.



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DocSavag
Thu Nov 20, 2003 5:05 pm
#7






Xaan wrote:

Thanks for taking over Doc!






I was honored to be allowed to help the community.



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CEO, Windae Enterprises
Mesric Sanctuary Founder



DocSavag
Thu Nov 20, 2003 5:07 pm
#8






JTGAlpha wrote:
Doc. You might also want to check to see if this is tied in with Vendors disappearing as well. Since they "disappear" when no one is looking, perhaps they STAY unitialized upon occasion when they are supposed to reappear because of lag, latency, whatever.





I suspect this is a failure of the vendor to load properly and it gets stuck. This isn't really a new error though I don't think though it may be worse now because the vendors seem to be taking longer to load (probably because they are doing a lot of startup routines now to handle the map and adbarking stuff)


I'll bring that up as well.





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Chataka Windae
Rifleman/Combat Medic
CEO, Windae Enterprises
Mesric Sanctuary Founder



ZahrIna
Fri Nov 21, 2003 1:46 am
#9

Woot! Welcome!!



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alibinsophos
Fri Nov 21, 2003 6:01 am
#10

Well done DocSavag, we shall put our faith and hopes in your Merchant guidance and support you as fully as we supported Marqie.



Looking forward to the future.

DocSavag
Fri Nov 21, 2003 6:10 am
#11






alibinsophos wrote:

Well done DocSavag, we shall put our faith and hopes in your Merchant guidance and support you as fully as we supported Marqie.



Looking forward to the future.







I don't know if I can provide you guidance. I can certainly provide you with a voice to the devs that won't quit until they fix stuff or they kick me out


I trust that I can count on all of YOU to provide the guidance. Many of you are Master Merchants with months and months of experience. I can't possibly have more knowledge of these systems than all of you combined, nor should I. My job is to represent you.In this you are the experts and I am your conduit.




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Chataka Windae
Rifleman/Combat Medic
CEO, Windae Enterprises
Mesric Sanctuary Founder



SunLao
Fri Nov 21, 2003 8:13 am
#12

Congratulations Doc! I know you already have the merchant issues well in hand.


Good Hunting!




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SofaChair
Fri Nov 21, 2003 8:47 am
#13

The merchant XP bug is, frankly, a very minor issue compared to the devastation that has been caused by the disappearing vendors/house contents problem. This bug has been around for months, but it seems to have gotten much worse since the last big patch and the items are NOT reappearing on their own. At least not for me. CSRs are useless to help and until we get some dev attention to this matter it's going to continue striking merchants at random.

I started a thread trying to draw some attention to this issue, but so far it's been completely ignored:

http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=Development&message.id=849242

Can we please make this our number one issue and get some dev response? It's been seven days now for me, and everything in my shop is still missing. My merchant/tailor is absolutely unplayable.



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