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Thread: Merchant Barker Droids on TC

GoCanes
Wed Apr 14, 2004 8:50 am
#27






DocSavag wrote:


For the record I answered one of the questions last night. If the droid's power goes below 1% the droid will turn off the ad bark and it must be re-enabled after the droid has been recharged.





Thta's good news at least... So the spam will not be bad ince the droids eventually power down. ^_^




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Tushai
Thu Apr 15, 2004 10:56 am
#28






DocSavag wrote:

...You can't leave the droid to spam and go do something else becuase if you leave the subserver the droid stops working....





Two questions:


Can you have the barking feature turned off and still have the droid give out waypoints?


Assuming the answer to that question is "yes," say I start a droid barking in a city, then I leave the planet--is it that the droid "stops working" completely, or just stops barking? I bascially wanna know if I can leave the planet but at least still hand my waypoint out.


Thanks!





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warrenowen
Thu Apr 15, 2004 3:41 pm
#29

Hmmm, I think we need a "/yell nerf" to accompany this, otherwise it will make things worse rather than better.


I think /yell should act like /burstrun for the mind, you should only be allowed one during a fixed period, say45 seconds. The mind cost being relative to the number of characters you yell (but allowing say 32 free characters topermit short "forming hunting group" type yells).


On the spambot cert, it has to go into Advertising, I would hope either Ad 2 or, and I hesitate to say this, Ad 4. I hesitate at 4 because I currently have cut back my Merchant skills to just Ad 3, so I could Master Rifle alongside WS, but if the spambot is effective, then I would perhaps be prepared to ditch M.Artisan to get it (and feed into the other lines to feel better about my Merchant skills being dropped, but the vendors remaining). But for it to be worthwhile, they must be relatively rare, and that means nerfing /yells and certifying it high enough. Otherwise it will just add to the confusion.





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DocSavag
Thu Apr 15, 2004 6:44 pm
#30

Ok. More testing results..not sure these are good results but they are the facts:


Novice Merchant is required to access the barker options menu.


I set the droid up to bark..then rode my speeder bike 6500 meters away..he continued to bark. I drove back..then hopped a ship from Dantooine to Corellia..he continued to bark. So it appears the assumption that he would stop barking when I left the subserver is incorrect. He continued without any issue.


Now he can't go unlimited like that because when he hits low power he will stop but still he can't be set up and fully powered and spam a while as his master is no where to be found.




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JTGAlpha
Thu Apr 15, 2004 7:18 pm
#31

And what happens when he runs out of power? Does he just sit around forever? Hope not. Yuck.



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DocSavag
Thu Apr 15, 2004 9:15 pm
#32

Well I dont' know. If you log out I know he will log out as well eventually but I don't know how long that takes. It is possible that he will store when you travel off planet. I was away from him for more than a couple minutes in my test. Does anyone have any experience with droids like this? I can remnember leaving my droid in my house and goind and doing missions (grouping with them gave me better xp)







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Naufragus
Thu Apr 15, 2004 10:38 pm
#33


my normal droids dont behave the same now all the time....


sometimes when low on power they will autostore if i leave the area or if they have been out for some time...other times they will go for hours and hours


possibly it is related to whether or not they are on "patrol" ...or maybe glitches where added in pub 6 with the other pet problems...
Haruspex77
Thu Apr 15, 2004 11:11 pm
#34








DocSavag wrote:


[snip]So it appears the assumption that he would stop barking when I left the subserver is incorrect. He continued without any issue.




This is a little better, at least we won't have the spammer and droid in the same area most of the time.


Waypoint working without spam is good news as well.


Any word on whether the lack of "additional information" as described before is just bugged or omitted on purpose? I was pretty negative about them just making it a simple edit like a description, but I didn't expect them to drop it completely.


DocSavag
Fri Apr 16, 2004 2:19 am
#35






Haruspex77 wrote:








DocSavag wrote:


[snip]So it appears the assumption that he would stop barking when I left the subserver is incorrect. He continued without any issue.





This is a little better, at least we won't have the spammer and droid in the same area most of the time.


Waypoint working without spam is good news as well.


Any word on whether the lack of "additional information" as described before is just bugged or omitted on purpose? I was pretty negative about them just making it a simple edit like a description, but I didn't expect them to drop it completely.








I'm not sure. I don't get the impression that it is just bugged from anything I've seen. I will add that to the list of questions I have.


I doubt it was left out based on any single persons aversion to the method. More likely it got nixed for storage or other technical reasons.




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TwilightScout
Fri Apr 16, 2004 2:35 am
#36

I don't have recent experience with droids, but vehicles often stay out a very long time. We did the Corvette yesterday and when we returned after an hour, my bike was still out. Now maybe vehicles aren't like "pets" for the game though but there you go.

Maybe it's possible to have the droids act like mobile signs instead of spamming? That would be less annoying I'm sure and it would be more like an advertisement. If they add a UI to have multiple lines on signs that'd be great too.
GoCanes
Fri Apr 16, 2004 1:40 pm
#37

TC patch notes indicate changing bark times to 60s and putting required skill level at Ad4... ^_^

http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=in_testing&message.id=9857#M9857




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DocSavag
Fri Apr 16, 2004 1:59 pm
#38

Well that goes a long way to prevent them from being a huge problem if only Merchants who currently have Ad IV.



60 seconds is about right I think.






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GoCanes
Fri Apr 16, 2004 2:02 pm
#39

/agreed on both



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