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Songe

Thu May 20, 2004 6:40 pm

/cheer minions

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Novice Lekku Stomper

DocSavag

Thu May 20, 2004 7:09 pm

That must be why I'm only marginally successful as a merchant..I don't have minions... well I do..but they are all me.. /sniff

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Chataka Windae
Rifleman/Combat Medic
CEO, Windae Enterprises
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Andymantium

Fri May 21, 2004 8:55 am

#29

/grin

K

orange-arrows

Sat May 22, 2004 12:24 am

#30

there are two types of transactions - with two different (potentially) sets of conditions

1 - you put the stuff on your vendor for anyone to buy at the price you determine fair to you --this is an anonymous transaction - outside of your control. And that's the key element --OUTSIDE of your control.

2 - you trade with a specific person for a specific reason - the buyer or seller can make whatever stipulations they want (which may or may not be kept, but that is another issue) - this is under your control to a much greater degree.

you have to appreciate the difference - it's all about control

º ORANGE ARROWS º

Awat

Sat May 22, 2004 11:45 pm

#31

DingoBoi wrote:

2) Not caring about them having fun, and just treating them as an NPC with an advanced AI.

Anyone choosing the second option is a jerk who deserves what ever is coming to him, banning from the shop with out warning as the least. Respect is a two way street, if someone do not respect others they should expect no respect in return.

I can make the same arguement back at you that those people who enjoy selling extremely cheap are making my game unfun. I am a heavy seller. I run a megacorp power industry and I do play the 'economic game'. I'm a merchant after all. This is my bit of fun.

Somebody undercutting my prices by half can fully expect to be bought out. Somebody banning me from their store can fully expect to be bought out by one of my minions.

I fully agree that it's great to provide cheaper than average goods... those I won't make much on and I wont bother buying them. Sell drastically lower and I'll buy everything you have because I know I can sell it for double.

I have done so and I will continue to do so to those that sell too low. If they have any problem with this, it's is theirs and theirs alone. Them selling too low as my direct 'competition' affects my business. PE 995 sells on my vendors at about 2.95 credits per unit. If a one-credit flat broker wants to sell that at one credit, go ahead but don't **edit** about me buying it up and marking it up for resale at 3x what I paid for it. Keep in line with the market.

Corporate Warfare is PVP in it's own regard

Message Edited by DingoBoi on 05-20-2004 08:18 PM

I love the tagline. When I first read this post, I was initially slightly irritated (being a crafter who prides himself on keeping his prices reasonable), but I have to agree with the post - part of the benefit of a free market economy is that it makes perfect sense to buy from wholesalers and resell at retail. The crafters deliberately undercutting the market in order to damage it may not think of themselves as wholesalers, but retailers and resellers do, and this sort of market "management" is a great way to ensure that prices for specific items aren't destroyed by hologrinders with no view of the long term for the profession du jour.

Speaking of which, I have some hologrinding tailors to go clean out... BRB

Civ. Awat, Chef/Architect/Merchant
Formless Realm Enterprises (FR) Marketing Specialist
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LadyIllyria

Sun May 23, 2004 1:40 pm

#32

Minions are wonderful. I call mine 'slaves'. Well, some are slaves, the others are employees. My rl husband's characters are slaves. *evil grin*.

I rarely get resellers out at my place, probably because of location. The only reseller I banned from my shop, got banned not because they were buying and reselling, but because they lied to me about doing it. Business is busines, profit is profit. I have a company to run and an estate to manage.

On a totally different rant, what is up with people who ask me what my prices are, then when I give them a quote they reply with: I saw them for X amount (cheaper than you). Okay, wonderful, go buy from them. *Shrug* Do they think I am going to lower my prices just because they told me they can get it cheaper? Or are they attempting to barter with me in a poor manner?

A recent such example was some guy that /telled me asking how much a City Hall was. I told him the price. He said, no thanks, I can get it 100k cheaper than that.

A day later, he pages me and asks how much for 10 small houses. I tell him my price. He says, I can get them for 5k each. I tell him, good, go buy from them then. He then tells me back with, you lost out on 400k on the city hall last time. I said I didn't need business that badly to lower my established prices to which he replied, that's bad business...

I forget what happened after that other than me ignoring him. (Not /addignore, just ignoring him.)

Mistress Kyphi Makarha

Master Merchant, Master Artisan, Master Architect, Politician

warrenowen

Mon May 24, 2004 6:10 am

#33

I've resold things as a merchant, I've also bought things cheap in the hope they may become more valuable if the devs ever get around to implementing dead features (for certain skilltapes).

But the problem is that sometimes we want to offer discounts or limit salesto certain groups and cannot.

I'm a weaponsmith also, and I created a nice little run of D18 pistols, not much use to the master pistoleer, but 10 times better than the cruddy CDEF you get as a noob. I would happily give these away to new players, but need a mechanism to do that effeciently. If I put them on the Bazaar at 20 credits a pop then someone will just buy them and resell for a handsome profit. That to me is evil reselling..

So as I see it reselling can be "evil", but only because does not allow us to limit sales to specific groups. I would love to be able to put some classy crafted D18s on my vendor and have them saleable only to those who are only Novice Marksmen.

If I put something up that I consider for general sale, then go ahead, do what you will. Master Smuggler please buy a lot and slice away. Reseller do your worst. If I start to sell too many then my price is obviously too low. But I wish had the opportunity to give something back to the new players....... and obviously create a fair bit of goodwill for me as a weapons dealer

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