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Thread: I'm curious is anyone a Pure Merchant?

BioTamer
Mon Sep 27, 2004 1:36 pm
#27

I banned a guy from my shop who cleaned out my vendor twice for over 2mil. Why? because I didn't become a crafter/merchant in order to become his employee.

I want to sell to alot of different people. That is my fun, not the credits and being completely anonymous, because my vendor was always empty because this guy was clearing it out every time I restocked it. And so when people would come to my shop, they see its empty and leave. I found his vendor in a very busy and popular mall selling my items at a huge markup. And in the meantime my shop was empty of customers because he had all my business.

So I will just repeat what I said in relation to why people don't want you reselling their items. We did not buy this game and pay our monthly dues just to be YOUR employee. That's boring, lame, and is a job, not a play experience. I am a Master Merchant/crafter because I want to be in control of my own shop, to interact with customers, to try to keep up with restocking the various items that have sold instead of my whole stock every couple days, which leaves me time to explore and whatnot. So yeah, there's why.

We are not here to be your employees, have some respect and don't clear out our vendors.



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BioTamer
Mon Sep 27, 2004 1:40 pm
#28

Oh and yeah, I do buy some items off the bazaar to resell on my decor vendor. I consider the bazaar to be like an npc loot gambling machine. Pull the lever and see what you win. But this is in no way the same as buying off other people's vendors and reselling.



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BioTamer
Mon Sep 27, 2004 1:57 pm
#29

Well what part about I do not play this game to be someone else's employee do you not understand?



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Okto'si Somu-sa...Entertainer...Starsider
[ATK...always IC in spatial]

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Irxosskisx
Mon Sep 27, 2004 1:59 pm
#30

I'm not a "Pure Merchant" in that I craft the Majority of the stuff that I sell. I'm currently building my Template, droping my combat skills as I grind up Armorsmith. Once done I will be Master WS/Master AS/Master Merchant.


I do two things.. I make stuff thatI want to sell. And am also currently in the process of creating a Consinment Shop for my Guild/City.


I also have the luxuary of a Combat Alt. But honestly I seem to be having alot more fun with my craft/merchant toon than I do fighting.



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Zanholo
Mon Sep 27, 2004 2:08 pm
#31

"To many people get bored with the game after 3-6 months. Blame SOE (easy scapegoat) then they quit."


Too many get their inventories ravaged by the Sony and throw their arms up in utter futility when told, "Sorry, but too bad"...and cancel. I've been at it for a year, but this latest bs is too much to endure.



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Elyssa
Mon Sep 27, 2004 2:14 pm
#32






BioTamer wrote:
Well what part about I do not play this game to be someone else's employee do you not understand?



The part about where you get upset because you sold your merchandise at the price you had requested.



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cinnamon_tsunami
Mon Sep 27, 2004 2:22 pm
#33






BioTamer wrote:
Well what part about I do not play this game to be someone else's employee do you not understand?






I think you mistake underpricing your product for being an employee. If someone else buys it and marks it up and still sells it, you have it priced too low for retail. But you still get to decide what the price is, and that makes you a wholesaler, not an employee.


So, you should raise your prices, or sell individually rather than on a vendor, or just let people buy what they want for whatever purpose they have in mind, even if it is resale.




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DocSavag
Mon Sep 27, 2004 2:55 pm
#34

I've been in this forum since day one and I never understand the position that someone who buys all your merchandise for what you are asking for it is somehow doing something wrong. I understand you want it to last. I understand you want it to be sold to more than just one person but if you get what you asked for it you don't really have a reason to complain. If they are getting more for it on their vendor then you are charging to little for your items. If they get stuck with it then you should just smile at the profit you made and make more stuff.



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Cafa
Mon Sep 27, 2004 2:58 pm
#35






DingoBoi wrote:

1 account. I also have fun with my single character as a master combatant and a master crafter...though I don't sell anything I craft.







Then you are not a PURE merchant, by definition.


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Cafa
Mon Sep 27, 2004 3:00 pm
#36






Balkstar wrote:

Balkstar is a true merchant. He has no combat abilities to speak of, so his main income source is the spices he makes, and any slices he is able to fanagle off the streets.


I have stated a new character, however. Coosin is a Fencer that keeps my combat skills honed. With the exception of a 50k grant at the beginning of the game, a house, and free slices from Balkstar, the 2 accounts are completely independent and don't rely economically between each other.





Pure merchant? Sounds like a smuggler to me.


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A player bodyguard can't protect you either, something agroes you, you are dead. The
only difference between a pet and the person, is you pay the person to stand there
and watch you die. -- Straker Atrella

Cafa
Mon Sep 27, 2004 3:03 pm
#37






PhoenixOrion wrote:

By "Pure" Merchant, do you mean a full on Master and not a dabbler?


I personally on my main consider myself a businessman, but not a full on merchant. I have Novice Merchant and that is about all I can afford to get - what with being a Master Smuggler, Master TK, Novice Armorsmith, Novice Weaponsmith. Only leaves me with around 5 skill points left with which to dabble with. I'd love to master merchant, but I just am not willing to give up Master Smuggler or Master TKA to be able to PVE.





Personally, I think anyone that calls themselves a PURE merchant either only has skillpoints in that profession (plus the artisan requirements) and conducts themselves as SOLELY a merchant, not a crafter/looter selling things they craft/loot.


I've only met one on Tempest that was successful in over a year.


Fivo Asia





- Strength In Numbers - Loyal Subjects of the Empire
Asia Brothers Industries - Asia Hall SiN CiTY, Dantooine (Offers Vendor at -4703 -1404)
A player bodyguard can't protect you either, something agroes you, you are dead. The
only difference between a pet and the person, is you pay the person to stand there
and watch you die. -- Straker Atrella

Cafa
Mon Sep 27, 2004 3:06 pm
#38






Elyssa wrote:





BioTamer wrote:
Well what part about I do not play this game to be someone else's employee do you not understand?



The part about where you get upset because you sold your merchandise at the price you had requested.






Yeah I'm doubletaking on this one too.


Fivo Asia




- Strength In Numbers - Loyal Subjects of the Empire
Asia Brothers Industries - Asia Hall SiN CiTY, Dantooine (Offers Vendor at -4703 -1404)
A player bodyguard can't protect you either, something agroes you, you are dead. The
only difference between a pet and the person, is you pay the person to stand there
and watch you die. -- Straker Atrella

Indene
Mon Sep 27, 2004 5:35 pm
#39



BioTamer wrote:
Well what part about I do not play this game to be someone else's employee do you not understand?




What part of you put it up for sale and I bought it are you having trouble with? In RL anyone who owns a business and sells a product or service knows one thing. They are working for the customer. If you dont want to be someones employee don't put stuff up for sale. Give it to people at random or your guild. You could of course try rasing your prices.

I was banned from a shop once cause I would buy the stuff (not buy out all of it) and resell it on the bazaar for a nice profit. I concluded the seller had not been raised in a land of oppertunity and so I sent in other players to buy the stuff and sell it to me. I than sold it on the Bazaar. Thus helping newer players get started earning money in SWG instead of begging for it.

-Indene-

P.S. I did contact the shop owner and offer to buy direct rather than thru the vendor. The owner refused. I moved on and profited by assisting other players and other shop owners instead.



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