Merchant Archive

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HALF-BRAYNE wrote:

MaDuece, this post isnt about my stuff not selling, but me having no-where to sell it. Are you disillusional or just stupid?

You DO have somewhere to sell your stuff. Its called spending the skill points to get the vendors you idiot. If you don't want to spend the skill points, there are STILL ways for you to sell your stuff; its called the bazaar, trade forums, wholesale contracts with merchants, and seller-to-buyer contact. Thats 4 different ways for you to sell your stuff and you don't even have to drop a vendor, much less spend a single skill point.

I am neither disillusioned (disillusional isn't a word) nor stupid. I read your post and didn't like your idea. Its certainly not my problem that you can't handle me voicing my opinion. If you can't deal with criticism then don't post.

This post is about finding ways to make the merchant prof desirable and finding better ways for non-crafters to sell their VALUABLE junk.

This post contains a proposal to allow non-merchants to have vendors at a higher maintenance rate. It has already been brought up and shot down. I've already told you 4 different ways for non-crafters to sell their USELESS junk. If non-crafters want a better way then they need to spend the points.

N.B. Oh, and everyone has equal oppertunities to be stuck-up pigs. I think we have both proven this.

People that don't agree with you are "stuck up pigs"? Did mommy teach you this? Or did you just cook this up during study hall?

The only thing thats proven here was that you are yet another spoilled brat that can't handle it when people disagree with you.

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Message Edited by MaDuece on 09-05-2004 02:47 PM

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HALF-BRAYNE wrote:

FOOLISH, FOOLISH FOOLS!! I have read all the post increduosly.

Apparently you have read all the posts but your own. You are defending a position that you can't even interpret properly.

MaDuece, I forbid you to put another post on here until you read through the whole original post slowly and calmly,

You wish you had the power to do this. I can say whatever I please and however I want to say it and when I want to say it.

I never EVER suggested giving merchants high maintanence fees.

No you suggested a means by which non-merchants still get to have vendors. Simply by putting high maintenance fees on them doesn't make them a good idea OR does it make it acceptable for non-merchants to have a merchant benefit.

I suggested that if we kept a form of the exploit there would be an incredibly high maintanence for ex-merchants.

OK there you go; a piece ofa statement that not only is accurate to the original post but also admits that the old system was an exploit.

Anyone except a complete moron who enjoys arguing but hasnt actually read the post would think that i meant actual merchants should have to pay this.

Oh no, make non-merchants pay it. Thats SSSOOOOOO much better. Now YOU need to read my reply to this idea. Who is going to pay those fees in the end? The customer thats who. Non-merchants will simply increase the prices of their goods to make up for the higher fees. That makes it a STUPID idea.

But that isnt even what the bulk of the post is about. The post is about finding non-exploit methods for non-merchants to sell their wares.

There already are ways for non-merchants to sell their stuff; refer to the last post.

I think i should but that on copy, as i seem to have to write it constantly.

You seem to have problems comprehending or retaining what you write. Maybe you need to get Hooked On Phonics.

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Super_nice_jedi wrote:

Doesn't matter, happens in real life too, when I sell on ebay I have to charge extra if the the bidder wants to pay using paypal, paying by cheque/cash etc doesn't cost me any extra so don't need to charge bidder more, and have to charge as being just an ordinary citizen without any business perks which allow you to buy at cost instead of RRP, which will compensate any additional charges like paypal.Also service stations charge more for food and drink, than the supermarkets, for this reason. If the customers realise the prices are higher than normal, they won't pay, but it still doesn't stop people buying the food and drinks at overly charged service stations, as usualy there is no other place to get the stuff. On ebay, I do find a lack of sales due to having to charge for paypal, as bidders just search ebay for the same item until they find a cheaper one. It's all fun of the fair!

There isn't a single RL example that carries weight in SWG. If they were to implement RL issues into the game 90% of the players wouldn't be able to handle it. In RL, if you get shot in the head, you die instantly. In RL, doctors can't wave a wand and make you healthier than you truely are. In RL, hunters actually have to stalk down their prey.

I was looking at that idea of merchants being able to craft vendors then rent/sell them out, a bit like harvestors

What for? Oh yeah thats right.....so people that don't actually have merchant skills can have them. Gee, it makes it SSSOOO much better now that a merchant can craft the vendor.

The list is enormous. If they stopped to fix every exploit, we would be getting JTL about this time next year; or later.

Yeah, well, rather that, than accusations of exploiting flying all over the place, when players have just been playing the game, and doing whatever it allows. This merchant exploit should have been fixed from the get go, now people have gotten used to the ways of the vendor for over a year, and stored tonnes of stuff on them etc, and now with this fix have no where to put it all

Go ahead and go to the JTL forum and propose that they put off JTL to do nothing but fix exploits. See how far you get before you get shot down like a spy drone over China.

I don't have a problem with the Merchant profession, just wish it was what it is now a year ago, there would be no threads on this subject, of wanting skills without investing the points.

You can wish all you like but they aren't going to turn back the clock to last year. Like I said before, there were a lot of mistakes in the system since last year. Slowly they are getting fixed: CMs, CHs, Commandos, Hologrinding, credit dupes, multiple slices, etc. Its simply the vendor's turn this time.

It's not the merchant profession I dislike, its people like you and Dingoboi, making it harder for people to adapt to the new correct system, through all your snidey and sarcastic comments.

I could care less whether or not you like me. I have given suggestions in other threads that contain questions. On threads that contain proposals, suggestions, and excuses I shoot with both barrels. I am entitled to my opinion and I am entitled to voice it. Snide and sarcastic? Thats subject to interpretation, but if thats what it takes to get your attention, then fine; I will explore ways to make them even more sarcastic.

I agree and support the changes 100%, but when an idea pops to try and work around this mess that the devs have created, you shoot it down agressively, without responding courteously and politely.

Exactly, they are suggestions "to try and work around" the system. That, in my book, is looking for ways to exploit and cheat. None of these ideas are actually ways to make merchant a better profession. They are just proposals to devalue the benefits of the merchant profession. AND I certainly DON'T have to be polite about it if I don't want to be. SOE doesn't pay me; I pay them.

If you will take careful note, the majority of my replies have started out politely or, at least, with a sense of apathy. However, when people want to attack or accuse me, then I push back. Its not my problem you can't handle me defending myself. I can most certainlyhandle you defending yourself.

This mess has been caused by the devs not fixing the problem straight away, and has now inevitably created a mass panic and worry for those with vendors and without Merchant or even Artisan, so deal with it.

I DON"T have to deal with it. I kept my merchant skills, so I don't have to worry about keeping my vendors. This is only a mess to those that DON'T want to deal with it. Instead, they come here and whine and cry and make excuses about why they should be allowed to keep doing it.

Treat them with repect, not disrepect, and use some Customer Service Excellence, for petes sake!

Like I said, SOE doesn't pay me. I don't owe anyone here any ounce of "Customer Service Excellence". And I certainly have no respect for people that whine and cry and make excuses.

Attitude like yours, will just make people want to exploit the profession more, and make it more of a pain to do than you're making it out.

Blaming one's willingness and desire to cheat the system on someone else's attitude is LAME. Thats like blaming the banks for bank robbers. People need to be responsible for their own actions.

Decent people don't want to do a profession that will end up turning them into dickwads!

Decent people don't want to cheat the system. Whether or not they turn into to "dickwads" are entirely up to them. Like I said before, people need to take responsibility for their own actions (and attitudes). Don't blame it on someone else if you are a whiner or a "dickwad".

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Message Edited by MaDuece on 09-05-2004 02:52 PM