Merchant Archive

Thread: Time for customers to post, not the merchants!

joined42904
Wed Aug 11, 2004 11:59 am
#27
ResourceMonkey,


I have no idea whether this is what the code would do, but when it searches vendors to tell the person searching...why not just let that be the point at which it checks whether there is stock? That is what I thought was programmed but I could be wrong.


You could put you vendor back on the map that way, but it still wouldn't show up without being stocked.



Issadra 12-pt Master Armorsmith, Master Merchant
NERF Armory 5103, 2008 Lost Sanctum Dantooine
Specialty Shop and Outlet in Andromeda Corellia
joined42904
Wed Aug 11, 2004 1:54 pm
#28
Ryche_Mykola


I am Master Artisan/Master Armorsmith/MasterMerchant. Yes...Master Merchant posting in the Merchant forums. I hope that doesn't offend you.


My shop is located in Lost Sanctum Dantooine. It's called...oddly enough...NERF Armory...named in anticipation of the combat rebalance that never came. Waypoint is 5103, 2008. Merchant's name is Issadra. Please feel free to stop by and check out my reasonably priced armor.



Issadra 12-pt Master Armorsmith, Master Merchant
NERF Armory 5103, 2008 Lost Sanctum Dantooine
Specialty Shop and Outlet in Andromeda Corellia
MilannaSati
Wed Aug 11, 2004 2:14 pm
#29


joined42904 wrote:


Milanna,


I plan to sell chestplates in crates of 5. I will also sell leggings in crates of 5. I am not going to stock single pieces except maybe stun helmets. And yes if you can't afford 5 it will probably be just "too bad" with the new vendor limit. But 5 at 70k each is only 350k which is what a new suit of armor would cost you most places on our server. And no more sliced armor but that was such a headache anyway that I don't think I want to do that again. I had 40 suits sliced at once and it was quite a headache. My slicer friend was very nice and very helpful though.

So what you are saying is it is just tough cookies for me and any other combat profession customers who can't afford to buy chestplates in crates of 5. And I don't need or want to buy a full suit of armor. How does this fit in with all your "fairness and equality, sunshine and light" blathering you've been doing in the other post? Or does fairness only matter when it comes to leveling out the merchant/vendor field for you?




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ResourceMonkey
Wed Aug 11, 2004 2:27 pm
#30
Mayhaps he was demonstrating what he would have to do in order to conform to the new restrictions placed upon vendor limits?




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joined42904
Wed Aug 11, 2004 2:29 pm
#31
Milanna,


If you are a combat profession, I think you will acknowledge that for master elites hunting on Dant it doesn't take all *that* long to get 350k with the current Janta missions. So...the combat folks need to be sure they can afford their next suit of armor and next weapons before doing non-mission activities.


This isn't that difficult a concept nor is it that difficult for them to do.


I presently sell single items due to the unlimited space. But that vendor sometimes has 400 items on it, and that just isn't going to work after the very reasonable caps are implemented. I will adjust.


The lack of single pieces should be one reason for you to join a guild. Because there are certain people I *would* make a single chestplate for. And I probably would do it for a Newbie also. Because I like to help newer people. But a veteran who says he can't afford 350k ... well ... first of all I don't think many such players exist. If they do, it is due to poor planning.


I have people ordering these very items in crates of 10 or 20. Some folks even buy armor in crates.





Issadra 12-pt Master Armorsmith, Master Merchant
NERF Armory 5103, 2008 Lost Sanctum Dantooine
Specialty Shop and Outlet in Andromeda Corellia
MilannaSati
Wed Aug 11, 2004 2:40 pm
#32


joined42904 wrote:


Milanna,


If you are a combat profession, I think you will acknowledge that for master elites hunting on Dant it doesn't take all *that* long to get 350k with the current Janta missions. So...the combat folks need to be sure they can afford their next suit of armor and next weapons before doing non-mission activities.


This isn't that difficult a concept nor is it that difficult for them to do.


I presently sell single items due to the unlimited space. But that vendor sometimes has 400 items on it, and that just isn't going to work after the very reasonable caps are implemented. I will adjust.


The lack of single pieces should be one reason for you to join a guild. Because there are certain people I *would* make a single chestplate for. And I probably would do it for a Newbie also. Because I like to help newer people. But a veteran who says he can't afford 350k ... well ... first of all I don't think many such players exist. If they do, it is due to poor planning.


I have people ordering these very items in crates of 10 or 20. Some folks even buy armor in crates.


First off, I'm not a veteran. My first billing cycles haven't even arrived yet for either character-I'm still on the first 30 days. So if you have problems believing that I can't afford it, then that's your issue. I have a little over 400k right now. Nor am I a master yet. I also don't go to Dant. I don't feel I should have to grind a bunch of Janta missions to be able to afford armor because the developers nerfed the vendors and now vendors won't sell single pieces. Is that so wrong? I would rather spend my time trying to complete their combat and badge missions, which are hard enough without getting my a** kicked every other day by Jantas so I can afford armor.


And I am in a guild already. As a newbie, I guess I don't fully understand the purpose of a guild, as I don't expect my friends to hand me a piece of armor every time I need it. I don't want to have to try to find an armorsmith with time to make a single chestplate, I want to be able to go to my vendor and find it, as I have in the past.


Good for the people who buy armor in crates. I'm not one of them and do not plan to be. But you've already made it very clear that your concept of fairness doesn't extend to anybody but yourself. I'm done talking to a wall.





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joined42904
Wed Aug 11, 2004 2:46 pm
#33
Milanna,


If your guild has an armorsmith, you can probably get a single item at a decent price from that person. I do that on request. Heck...I make entire suits of armor on request from certain people.


You don't have to do Janta missions. Pick a type of hide armorsmiths need for instance and hunt those creatures. Money will flow liberally to you for this service. Use harvesters to dig useful materials out of the ground while you do in-game things you enjoy. Sell the materials. It's very easy to make money in SWG if you just give it some thought.


Janta missions aren't the only choice. Just one of the most obvious.



Issadra 12-pt Master Armorsmith, Master Merchant
NERF Armory 5103, 2008 Lost Sanctum Dantooine
Specialty Shop and Outlet in Andromeda Corellia
Crimsonsplat
Wed Aug 11, 2004 2:47 pm
#34




joined42904 wrote:

Milanna,


And I probably would do it for a Newbie also. Because I like to help newer people. But a veteran who says he can't afford 350k ... well ... first of all I don't think many such players exist. If they do, it is due to poor planning.


I have people ordering these very items in crates of 10 or 20. Some folks even buy armor in crates.



Excuse me? Weren't you the one going on about the evil oligopolists and how hard it was to break into the market?And you wanted this nerf to control the economy? Sounds like you're doing better business than ME!


MilannaSati
Wed Aug 11, 2004 2:50 pm
#35
Crimsonsplat, I have come to the conclusion that the real reason he wants this change to go through is to raise prices for the lining of his pockets. At least some of the other pro-nerf posters on here of late have at least had the guts to post this truth. He doesn't care about fairness for anyone, he has practically admitted as much in some of his posts.




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MaDuece
Wed Aug 11, 2004 3:58 pm
#36




joined42904 wrote:


Blah Blah Blah




You have already demonstrated numerous times on this thread how much of an idiot you are. Since, you obviouly require someone to spell it out for you please allow me to itemize it for you:


1) LOOK AT THE NAME OF THE THREAD. You stated you are an armorsmith/merchant and plainly invited your "consumer based" opinion into this thread when it is clearly marked that feedback was wantedfrom customers. I'm sure it wouldn't take long for any of us to find another thread where you have already stated your opinion on this issue based on a merchant's point of view. Your forum account has only been registered for a littleover 3 months and you have already accumulated a 1259 post count.


I started reading this thread hoping to get some insight from a CUSTOMER'S point of view. I saw your opinion that supported these new changes and hoped to hear what reasons a consumer would have to favor it. I washoping you would end up supplying some concrete arguements and proof as to why you lend your support; BASED ON A CONSUMER'S POINT OF VIEW! Instead I have to wade through your babble only to find out that you are a merchant. And not a very considerate one at that.


2) Simply agreeing with a vendor limit and forcing customers to buy in bulk is exactly the arguement NOT to go through with this nerf. The majority of the player base would certainlyNOT want to have to put up with such an attitude from legions of crafters such as yourself: "What?!?! You don't have enough money to buy CRATES of my stuff?!?!?! Well pissoff and come back when you do!"


3)Thank you very much for supplying additional ammunition for me to argue that vendors should NOT have tight item limits. I will be copying and pasting your post in the near future to those that I can just to show them that there indeed ARE players out there that are just dying to take advantage of other players if this nerf goes through.




Message Edited by MaDuece on 08-11-2004 04:00 PM

DustusNavar
Wed Aug 11, 2004 4:16 pm
#37

Here's my idea for reasonable limits:


Artisan Business 3 Get (1) Vendor, that will hold (50) items, for a total of (50) items for all vendors.
Merchant Novice Get (2) Vendors, that will hold (99) items, for a total of (198) items for all vendors - one full page per vendor
Merchant Management 1 Get (3) Vendors, that will hold (150) items, for a total of (450) items for all vendors
Merchant Management 2 Get (4) Vendors, that will hold (175) items, for a total of (650) items for all vendors
Merchant Management 3 Get (5) Vendors, that will hold (199) items, for a total of (995) items for all vendors
Merchant Management 4 Get (6) Vendors, that will hold (250) items, for a total of (1500) items for all vendors
Merchant Master Get (7) Vendors, that will hold (500) items, for a total of (3500) items for all vendors




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Ryche_Mykola
Thu Aug 12, 2004 12:00 am
#38
joined - Since you are providing absolutely no info as to what you even know about crafting/merchant, and it sounds like you know very little about economics, how about posting a WP to your shop and what server you are on? Also, what crafting profession are you?



Everybody else posting in here has professions, shop WP's, guild names, server names in there sigs-profile , you are just an anonymous poster.



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MilannaSati
Thu Aug 12, 2004 12:01 am
#39


joined42904 wrote:
Phoenix,


Armorsmiths will adapt. I don't think we will sell as much by the piece anymore.





Hello!! That is exactly part of the problem!! Last night, my TK character went out to the squill caves, and I needed a newchestplate piece of composite armor, not a whole suit, or 20 chestplates. Just one. Which costs enough already (I think it was 120k). I guess you want me to go out to ebay and buy some credits so I will have enough credits to buy in bulk.




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