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Thread: Boo me! Go ahead! But read this!
Andreshyyk wrote:First their gonna nerf all combat, buffs, and armor into oblivion to force us to have to hunt together and argue over who gets the CDEF rifle.
I personally don't mind this. I like hunting in big groups. It sucks when a group of friends I'm hunting with splits into 5 seperate groups because most of them can solo enraged rancors or something.
Andreshyyk wrote:Then their gonna stop recursive macros so it takes even LONGER to master crafting skills.
I don't mind this either. I'm very anti-grind. VERY anti-grind. I craft by hand, I don't use macros, and I look forward to entering cantina's and finding actual players there, not just afk entertainers on looped flourish macros.
Andreshyyk wrote:And now their gonna limit my vendor to 50 items to free up database room, when all they need to do is delete all the empty damn vendors on the servers once the stock hits 0 , and theyll save a ton of room on the servers.
THIS is what I've got problems with, as do most people here.
LadyGrey wrote:
Here is another person telling me how to play a game. Massive Multiplayer simply means that a lot of people can be in the game at the same time. Don't read into that any more than what it says. It doesn't mean that those people have to interact, or socialize. It just means that we can all see each other playing the game. We don't have to be "team players" or even get along with each other. Now, it is certainly possible to gather together into social groups or teams, but it is not necessary. The pointof an MMORPG is to gain the randomness of having multiple people on at the same time. This removes the linearity that exists in the earlier video games.
The point of the game is to have fun, doing whatever you think is fun. Don't dictate to me what I should be doing to have fun. If I would tell you that it is fun to stand for hours in your house, all by yourself, planning which resources to use for a particular crafting project, you would probably say something rude. But for me, that is fun. If you tell me that the only way to have fun is to run around with a lot of other people, shooting whatever moves, getting diseased and poisoned and ending up in the cloning center a lot, I would probably say something rude.
Play the game as you enjoy it, and I will play the game as I enjoy it. Don't make assumptions as to the "correct" way of playing.
Also the Galactic Civil War is supposed to be the Elder Game, and what is War if not a massive Cooperative Effort, and they dont get cooperative minded people by gearing the PVM combat towards Soloing either.
That said I do feel there should always be some soloable content, quests or lowend mobs.
Message Edited by Xscape on 08-14-2004 08:09 PM
Andreshyyk wrote:..... they never NEVER should have mentioned the combat revamp to us. then to push it back... My character is EXACTLY the way I like him. it took me a year to find the skills and balance that i wanted. and with the balance they basically told us " hey... your character might suck in 2-3 months, haha!". And to push it back farther... it is torture......
I wonder which is worse. Waiting for the surgery that never comes or being operated on like CH and having no arms and legs (combat ability) left. We (CH) were balanced in DECEMBER 2003 with the promise that everything would be adjusted real soon now. 8 *MONTHS* later and we are still waiting. Projected balance is 6+ months from now. Nice job SOE.
-Indene-
LadyGrey wrote:
Xscape wrote:Think you have missed the point of an MMO its called massive mulptiplayer for a reason there is no multiplay if soloing is how its played. The game was also never intended to be the way it is atm so its going to get fixed not nerfed. They need to fix it to the point where people with your soloing attitude either team up or leave the damn game, cause your definately not MMO material.
Here is another person telling me how to play a game. Massive Multiplayer simply means that a lot of people can be in the game at the same time. Don't read into that any more than what it says. It doesn't mean that those people have to interact, or socialize. It just means that we can all see each other playing the game. We don't have to be "team players" or even get along with each other. Now, it is certainly possible to gather together into social groups or teams, but it is not necessary. The point of an MMORPG is to gain the randomness of having multiple people on at the same time. This removes the linearity that exists in the earlier video games.
The point of the game is to have fun, doing whatever you think is fun. Don't dictate to me what I should be doing to have fun. If I would tell you that it is fun to stand for hours in your house, all by yourself, planning which resources to use for a particular crafting project, you would probably say something rude. But for me, that is fun. If you tell me that the only way to have fun is to run around with a lot of other people, shooting whatever moves, getting diseased and poisoned and ending up in the cloning center a lot, I would probably say something rude.
Play the game as you enjoy it, and I will play the game as I enjoy it. Don't make assumptions as to the "correct" way of playing.
And BTW RP in MMORPG means Role Playing. As in what we individually want to do. Some people WANT to be hermets and or anti-social. That is the role they want. Xscape has no business telling LadyGrey or anyone else how to play the game. (Xscape has the right to voice his/her opinon on how others should play though
-Indene-
Indene wrote:
LadyGrey wrote:
Xscape wrote:
Think you have missed the point of an MMO its called massive mulptiplayer for a reason there is no multiplay if soloing is how its played. The game was also never intended to be the way it is atm so its going to get fixed not nerfed. They need to fix it to the point where people with your soloing attitude either team up or leave the damn game, cause your definately not MMO material.
Here is another person telling me how to play a game. Massive Multiplayer simply means that a lot of people can be in the game at the same time. Don't read into that any more than what it says. It doesn't mean that those people have to interact, or socialize. It just means that we can all see each other playing the game. We don't have to be "team players" or even get along with each other. Now, it is certainly possible to gather together into social groups or teams, but it is not necessary. The point of an MMORPG is to gain the randomness of having multiple people on at the same time. This removes the linearity that exists in the earlier video games.
The point of the game is to have fun, doing whatever you think is fun. Don't dictate to me what I should be doing to have fun. If I would tell you that it is fun to stand for hours in your house, all by yourself, planning which resources to use for a particular crafting project, you would probably say something rude. But for me, that is fun. If you tell me that the only way to have fun is to run around with a lot of other people, shooting whatever moves, getting diseased and poisoned and ending up in the cloning center a lot, I would probably say something rude.
Play the game as you enjoy it, and I will play the game as I enjoy it. Don't make assumptions as to the "correct" way of playing.
And BTW RP in MMORPG means Role Playing. As in what we individually want to do. Some people WANT to be hermets and or anti-social. That is the role they want. Xscape has no business telling LadyGrey or anyone else how to play the game. (Xscape has the right to voice his/her opinon on how others should play though
-Indene-
Well I can certainly agree with this knowbody should tell anyone how to play the game. But the way the BUFFS/ARMOR are set up people can solo just about most aspects of the game (Krayts, Night Sisters, Geo Caves and a somewhat small group can do the Corvette at least parts of it), now if they "nerf" fix the armor/buff system it will in NOWAY force you to group. You just cant solo the Uber Mobs anymore (which is why Im sure they have diferent HAMs for all the mobs so some would be harder or require more than 1 person to kill), just like in any other MMOG except the ones that promote GOD MODE features.
Exactly
Aeja wrote:
Well I can certainly agree with this knowbody should tell anyone how to play the game. But the way the BUFFS/ARMOR are set up people can solo just about most aspects of the game (Krayts, Night Sisters, Geo Caves and a somewhat small group can do the Corvette at least parts of it), now if they "nerf" fix the armor/buff system it will in NOWAY force you to group. You just cant solo the Uber Mobs anymore (which is why Im sure they have diferent HAMs for all the mobs so some would be harder or require more than 1 person to kill), just like in any other MMOG except the ones that promote GOD MODE features.
Indene wrote:
(Xscape has the right to voice his/her opinon on how others should play though
-Indene-
I do want there to be room for all sorts though really, but the main content for the groups, kinda pointless having a 20 person group max when 1 man can do the job wich again points to where SOE wanted this game to be.Message Edited by Xscape on 08-14-2004 09:13 PM
Xscape wrote:
LadyGrey wrote:
Here is another person telling me how to play a game. Massive Multiplayer simply means that a lot of people can be in the game at the same time. Don't read into that any more than what it says. It doesn't mean that those people have to interact, or socialize. It just means that we can all see each other playing the game. We don't have to be "team players" or even get along with each other. Now, it is certainly possible to gather together into social groups or teams, but it is not necessary. The pointof an MMORPG is to gain the randomness of having multiple people on at the same time. This removes the linearity that exists in the earlier video games.
The point of the game is to have fun, doing whatever you think is fun. Don't dictate to me what I should be doing to have fun. If I would tell you that it is fun to stand for hours in your house, all by yourself, planning which resources to use for a particular crafting project, you would probably say something rude. But for me, that is fun. If you tell me that the only way to have fun is to run around with a lot of other people, shooting whatever moves, getting diseased and poisoned and ending up in the cloning center a lot, I would probably say something rude.
Play the game as you enjoy it, and I will play the game as I enjoy it. Don't make assumptions as to the "correct" way of playing.
Well thats your view, my view is that the game and any MMO is better without people like yourself. That randomness your talking about is only created when people interact as opposed to person/npc. And nobody wants to dictate how you play your game, but I feel and so do manythat MMOs should be about cooperation, teamwork, socializing, creating friendships and experiencing stuff toghether.and added that people like you should go playsingleplayer games. Having both is very hard to accomplish and for most people I would imagine being alone gets dull pretty fast ingame as it does real life. Also judging from the devs statementson game balance, often mentioning mobs that should not be soloable & that the game has become to easy, im confident they dont want this solo fest anymore then me. Ive yet to see an MMO that seeks to create an environment where soloing is the norm, and there is no way that I know of to satisfy both cravings.
Also the Galactic Civil War is supposed to be the Elder Game, and what is War if not a massive Cooperative Effort, and they dont get cooperative minded people by gearing the PVM combat towards Soloing either.
That said I do feel there should always be some soloable content, quests or lowend mobs.
Message Edited by Xscape on 08-14-2004 08:09 PM
The PVM content being geared towards Soloing is NOT Lady Greys fault, it is SOE's. And ANY GAME that has "pets" is NOT intended to be 100% group oriented. CH is as solo oriented as it gets. i still remeber thing in UO about how players with 2 DRAGONS were just a bit... insane.
The game is best if all can play it, how they want. the responsibility to balance it so one player cannot kill 6 rancors is SOE's fault also. The solo player has as MUCH RIGHT to play this game and the "Ohh ohh I love to group" player. We all pay our money each month. Your comment about the MMO being better off without soloists is simply uncalled for. All we really want is for the game to be fun for everyone. The bottom line is there is as much wrong with this game as there is right with it. More varied content, with varied difficulty levels... if SOE does thei job properly ALL combat styles can be accomodated. if not we end up hurling verbal abuse back and forth.