Merchant Archive
Thread: Vendor Poaching -- What is a VIABLE Solution?
DocSavag
Thu Jun 17, 2004 2:25 pm
#14
Forget for a moment that you CAN get a vendor and not keep the skills points. If you couldn't..what would you do? What choices would you make? Do you put you 100 skill points towards more scouting skills? Do you Master an Elite Combat profession? Do you dabble in combat professions so you can protect yourself but not devote all your skills to it?
If you do that excercise you will probably find that you could learn to play BE differently. There is nothing saying that you have to be able to solo rancors in combat to be a good BE..if you defeat them you get no DNA.. you do get resources that you can use but you could buy those from a Ranger or Scout.
Maisland
Thu Jun 17, 2004 3:21 pm
#15
DocSavag wrote:
Forget for a moment that you CAN get a vendor and not keep the skills points. If you couldn't..what would you do? What choices would you make? Do you put you 100 skill points towards more scouting skills? Do you Master an Elite Combat profession? Do you dabble in combat professions so you can protect yourself but not devote all your skills to it?
If you do that excercise you will probably find that you could learn to play BE differently. There is nothing saying that you have to be able to solo rancors in combat to be a good BE..if you defeat them you get no DNA.. you do get resources that you can use but you could buy those from a Ranger or Scout.
If I hunt with a group, I get no DNA because the other members of the group kill everything in sight. Therefore, I need to hunt solo.
Since I am hunting solo, I need to be able to take out my target by myself if it agros on me or I will die a lot.
I hate dying. It causes decay, and I spent too much money on my gear to want to risk it being destroyed through a poor repair attempt (my BE is a wookiee, my armor alone cost an outrageous sum). I have noticed that dying not only causes my armor to decay, but my crafting tools as well.
The best DNA comes from the toughest targets (ie Rancors, Mereks etc).
To sum it up, if there is no VIABLE means for me to work with a merchant, and I were unable to have a vendor of my own at no cost, I would simply NOT SELL ANYTHING that I can't place on the bazaar... or would take a loss and sell stuff worth 10k or more for the measly 6k that bazaar prices are capped at... and would also most likely have to end up destroying a lot of perfectly good pets... and I have seen pets that aren't half as good as mine selling for more than I price mine at.
Then there is the fact that I find merchant boring and would much rather BE ABLE TO work WITH a merchant instead of having my own vendor(s).
What I came here hoping for, was that as MERCHANTS, you people (who PLAY merchants and ENJOY doing so) would come up with ideas that would make it possible for a NON-merchant to WORK WITH you. Instead, what I'm getting are suggestions that I reduce my character's effectiveness so I can train skills I DO NOT WANT TO HAVE TO HAVE. I do NOT WANT to be a JACK OF ALL TRADES, MASTER OF NONE. What I WANT, is a METHOD of WORKING WITH a MERCHANT that is PLAYED BY SOMEONE WHO WANTS TO BE A MERCHANT.
I figured that MERCHANTS should be able to come up with ideas on how a NON-MERCHANT could work WITH THEM for the betterment of BOTH. What I'm getting are flames and suggestions that I should dabble in multiple skills instead of being the best BE I can.
Ke_la
Thu Jun 17, 2004 3:25 pm
#16
if there were a VIABLE means of selling through a merchant, then vendor "poaching" would not happen.
If merchant is broken, it is in part because it is so HARD for a non-merchant to use one effectively.
I can't believe you wrote this. Vendor poaching happens regardless of the tools available, because simply, people can.
There is also the problem of obtaining packs... I would need Domestic Arts 4 in order to make them myself... and buying them would be another hassle.
My super sleuthing skills have solved your crime. Clearly put, you want to do everything yourself. You even whine about having to buy packs from a tailor instead of making them yourself.
You avoided the original question of what exactly are you doing with those extra 100+ points. And I believe it's because you know exactly that we will tell you to drop those extra fluff skills. Don't ask for sympathy here.
/throw eggs
Hey @$$#*!{ Read the post befor yours
he specificly states HE DOES NOT want to do it all himself he DOES NOT want to make the Packs, he Does not want to even have a vendor what he wants is for YOU TO BE FIXED so that he can use you as you WANT to be used, in other words by flaming him you are saying WE DON'T WANT TO BE A MERCHANT we just don't want you to sell stuff, and all he is asking for is from you sugjetions on how YOUR proffesion might be fixed. You are saying, go do it yourself.
Maisland
Thu Jun 17, 2004 3:40 pm
#17
DingoBoi wrote:
having trouble finding a merchant? certainly if you are using the search feature. Try looking on the planetary map for people who advertise. Maybe find a partner who does have merchant and work together. Why do you need to be a master combatant anyway on this character... a few branches will get you there and you can run away.
And to clear it up, you aren't supposed to be able to do it all..and yes, dabbling is needed. I really loved the added **edit** about 'but then i'd need x skill to make backpacks'/// way to go trying to justify yourself.
The planetary map only tells you what vendors are registered, it does NOT tell you where to find a merchant nor whether the registered vendor belongs to a TRUSTWORTHY merchant who would be WILLING to work with you. It also does not tell you WHO the vendor belongs to, so you then have to go to the vendor and look at it to see who is selling the items... and 9 times out of 10, the vendor will be empty.
If you are going to read part of that post about offering packs of stuff to a vendor, may I suggest that you concentrate on the part about "WOULD YOU BUY A PACK OF 50 ITEMS THAT ARE INDIVIDUALLY PRICED AT 10K OR MORE WITHOUT ANY MEANS OF KNOWING WHETHER THOSE ITEMS ARE AS DESCRIBED?" rather than the aside about the difficulty of obtaining packs to use when the packs are unlikely to be bought in the first place.
Gosh, then you end with "you aren't supposed to be able to do it all"and "dabbling is needed." Or in other words: "Become a JACK OF ALL TRADES, MASTER OF NONE." What is "dabbling" for after all, if not to be "able to do it all?" People dabble when they DO NOT want to have to depend on others. Why is it that you (merchants) keep coming up with ideas on what I should do in order to have my own vendor instead of ones on how I can work with SOMEONE ELSE who HAS merchant?
I repeat: I FIND MERCHANT BORING AND WOULD MUCH RATHER WORK WITH A MERCHANT PLAYED BY SOMEONE ELSE THAN TO HAVE MY OWN VENDOR(S). (Maybe if I say this oftenenough it will sink into your thick skull.)
Maisland
Thu Jun 17, 2004 3:50 pm
#18
Ke_la wrote:
if there were a VIABLE means of selling through a merchant, then vendor "poaching" would not happen.
If merchant is broken, it is in part because it is so HARD for a non-merchant to use one effectively.
I can't believe you wrote this. Vendor poaching happens regardless of the tools available, because simply, people can.
There is also the problem of obtaining packs... I would need Domestic Arts 4 in order to make them myself... and buying them would be another hassle.
My super sleuthing skills have solved your crime. Clearly put, you want to do everything yourself. You even whine about having to buy packs from a tailor instead of making them yourself.
You avoided the original question of what exactly are you doing with those extra 100+ points. And I believe it's because you know exactly that we will tell you to drop those extra fluff skills. Don't ask for sympathy here.
/throw eggs
Hey @$$#*!{ Read the post befor yours
he specificly states HE DOES NOT want to do it all himself he DOES NOT want to make the Packs, he Does not want to even have a vendor what he wants is for YOU TO BE FIXED so that he can use you as you WANT to be used, in other words by flaming him you are saying WE DON'T WANT TO BE A MERCHANT we just don't want you to sell stuff, and all he is asking for is from you sugjetions on how YOUR proffesion might be fixed. You are saying, go do it yourself.
YES, YES, YES!!! Someone who GETS it! I do NOT WANT to be a MERCHANT. I want to be a BE. I want to be able to WORK WITH a merchant in order to sell my items. I do NOT WANT to have my own vendor(s). I do NOT WANT to have to do it all myself. I want the merchant profession fixed so that I can USE a merchant that is PLAYED BY SOMEONE ELSE to sell my stuff.
I came here hoping that MERCHANTS would be able to come up with ideas on how they could do this and all I got were flames and suggestions on how I should do it myself.
P.S. I am a she. 
Songe
Thu Jun 17, 2004 4:21 pm
#19
There are a few posts with ideas of how to make reselling easier for merchants, just looka bit on the first page.
DocSavag
Thu Jun 17, 2004 4:24 pm
#20
The best way in my opinion is to look for large shops that have lots of stuff but no BE stuff and offer to sell to them.
But frankly I'm done reading this thread because the large font and yellow text is making me want to smash my monitor.
DingoBoi
Thu Jun 17, 2004 4:41 pm
#21
"Hey @$$#*!{"
did anyone ever tell you that you have a potty mouth?
Go suck an egg!
UniformMarshal
Thu Jun 17, 2004 4:58 pm
#22
Are you guilded? Does your guild have a dedicated Merchant? Or advertise for a Merchant in your Galaxy Trade Forum and see who is interested in picking you up as a client. The hardest part is finding the merchant. Advertise for one on the forums, check the local malls on your planet, TAKE SOME TIME AND LOOK, Dont expect it to be easy either, merchants have been abused so badly a lot of us havent given up. Realize that perhaps the best way to do business is to gather a partner, make a friend!
Ke_la
Thu Jun 17, 2004 5:08 pm
#23
P.S. I am a she.
Sorry with all that fur its hard to tell, and I am an ID (maybe a Prof change is in order)
p4Samwise
Thu Jun 17, 2004 5:17 pm
#24
DingoBoi wrote:
"Hey @$$#*!{"
did anyone ever tell you that you have a potty mouth?
Go suck an egg!
Well, you're a poopy-head. So there.
*makes s'mores*
Ke_la
Thu Jun 17, 2004 5:25 pm
#25
I can't believe you wrote this. Vendor poaching happens regardless of the tools available, because simply, people can.
Accually the only reason I have Merchant is because you DON'T have the tools you need, I am not a Poacher as I am 0-0-0-3 in merchant. Personally, I would use a merchant in a hart beat if the tools where inplace to ashure me that I would not get ripped off and that you would only take the Neassarcy Risks, as I am NOT going to just Give anything to anyone and HOPE I get paid in the end.
Maisland
Thu Jun 17, 2004 6:41 pm
#26
Ke_la wrote:
P.S. I am a she.
Sorry with all that fur its hard to tell, and I am an ID (maybe a Prof change is in order)
Heh... and I SPECIFICALLY chose to use the FEMALE wookiee icon too. lol