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Thread: 2 problems with my vendors.

Tarlon
Sat Oct 01, 2005 11:23 pm
#1

I'm having 2 problems with my vendors.1 is an old old problem.


Problem 1: My vendors are still not showing up on the planet map unless someone happens to enter my tent and spawn the vendors. This is an old old bug that I thought would have been fixed by now. My alt is master merchant and I have 3 vendors up. I'm pissed this bug is still around because I don't play normally till about 5 hours before the daily server resets and cannot stick around for the 2 hours the servers are down to spawn them right away. So my vendors don't get seen till someone happens by them or not untill I log on. So I get practically no visits and am paying for the "registered vendor fee" for nothing. Is this bug going to ever be fixed or is this a "feature" now?


Problem 2: My vendors maintanence is being drained quicker than the rate shows. I had enough maintanenceto last tillOct. 8th and now its down to 12 hours. I calculate my maintancence on harvestors, factories and houses this way (by the maint. rate)and have not been wrong before. But the vendors maint. is being soaked faster. Is this also a known bug or something new I should submit a /bug report for? I also thought that the "no maintanence" time thats happening now was supposed to affect vendors too, was vendors not part of this releif time?


I've only been back playing for about 6 weeks now so I'm not certain of the status of these 2 problems. If anyone can reply with some advice of how I might solve either of these 2 problems, please I wouldappreciate it.





Dunner




Dunner
Master Bio-Engineer / Master Creature Handler / Master Scout
Elyssa
Sat Oct 01, 2005 11:35 pm
#2


1) This is not a bug and is working as intended. It is listed in the top issues list as something we would like changed. Your vendors do not get loaded onto the map until someone visits them for the first time after a server reset.

2) Vendor maintenance was not changed. If you're seeing the maintenance being deducted faster than expected, definitely /bug it with reproducable steps.




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Shop Crazy Durni, Inc., now open in Metropolis, Corellia (885 -6605 Gorath)

"Why the big secret? People are smart, they can handle it."
"A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals and you know it."

Elyssa was 1000% correct
-Pawlin

CaixCatab
Sun Oct 02, 2005 1:27 am
#3

What about vendor search? Items on your vendor will still appear in vendor search without someone loading your vendors, right?



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Tarlon
Sun Oct 02, 2005 1:46 am
#4

I havn't checked this and didn't think to. I'll log off away from my vendors and check this the next time I log back on (tomorrow).


I just got done submitting a /bug report, as my vendors just went from 12 hours left when I posted a bit ago to only having 6 hours left now. Lost 6 hours in a matter of 2.





Dunner





Dunner
Master Bio-Engineer / Master Creature Handler / Master Scout
Ani_cul
Sun Oct 02, 2005 5:37 am
#5






CaixCatab wrote:

What about vendor search? Items on your vendor will still appear in vendor search without someone loading your vendors, right?






nope


they will not show on bazaar nor overhead map until you load them into world.





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Tarlon
Sun Oct 02, 2005 12:12 pm
#6

Ah, ok. I admit not reading the stickies due to my mind is already full from reading the CH, BE and Pilot boards. So thanks for replying.


And I will /bug my maintanence being deducted too fast.


Thanks again.





Dunner



Dunner
Master Bio-Engineer / Master Creature Handler / Master Scout
Tarlon
Tue Oct 04, 2005 2:53 am
#7






CaixCatab wrote:

What about vendor search? Items on your vendor will still appear in vendor search without someone loading your vendors, right?






I was able to search for items on my vendor even though they were not on the palnet map. So thats a good thing at least, and alleviates some of my concern about my vendors not showing up on the map.


Still, the more attention my vendors can get the better, so I would still like to see the vendor planet registering system work 24/7.


Thanks for all the replies and advice.





Dunner





Dunner
Master Bio-Engineer / Master Creature Handler / Master Scout
Dimear
Tue Oct 04, 2005 10:46 am
#8



Elyssa wrote:

1) This is not a bug and is working as intended. It is listed in the top issues list as something we would like changed. Your vendors do not get loaded onto the map until someone visits them for the first time after a server reset.

2) Vendor maintenance was not changed. If you're seeing the maintenance being deducted faster than expected, definitely /bug it with reproducable steps.





1) This is a bug - they're just too lazy to admit it. It's easier to say "it's working as intended" than to actually fix the problem. Nobody in their right mind would actually intend something like this. They may be trying to do the best they can given the dev time limitations and the technical limitations of the current game system, but to say "it's working as intended" is just a lame excuse to skirt the issue.





Thus sayeth Dimear

Elyssa
Tue Oct 04, 2005 11:07 am
#9

No, if it were a bug it would not be intended to work this way.

Bad design, but still working as designed.



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Elyssa Alexander (Elder Merchant Correspondent)
12pt. Master Structures Trader / Elder Jedi / Mayor, City of Metropolis
Shop Crazy Durni, Inc., now open in Metropolis, Corellia (885 -6605 Gorath)

"Why the big secret? People are smart, they can handle it."
"A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals and you know it."

Elyssa was 1000% correct
-Pawlin

Dimear
Tue Oct 04, 2005 11:49 am
#10

bug...crappy design...psychotic dev...

potato potahto

I think bug is actually the most flattering word to use, as it at least assumes they have good intentions. I choose to believe that they actually have good hearts, but due to technical limitations, time limitations, or a finite budget, they are unwilling to fix the problem. The only way that this would be "working as intended" is if they intended to make a crappy system, or if they are psychotic (out of touch with reality).

I imagine they took a look at this and said "oh crap - this system sucks. But it's hard to fix. So we'll just say we meant to do it. Roll out the all too familiar "working as intended" line...". I'm not upset about it or anything. There are other bugs I care about more than this one. I know they have lots to do, not enough time to do it, and other professions impact their bottom line more than merchant. But for them to say "working as intended" is either malicious or psychotic.

If they intended to create a crappy system, then they succeeded and are done, but I choose to give them more credit than that. So I call it a bug. But whatever word you choose to use, it's a problem with the game that should be addressed instead of sidestepped.

Message Edited by Dimear on 10-04-2005 01:43 PM





Thus sayeth Dimear

Elyssa
Tue Oct 04, 2005 1:13 pm
#11








Dimear wrote:
it's a problem with the game that should be addressed instead of sidestepped.



Yes.
That's why it's included on the list.
I've included it on the bug list in hopes that it gets addressed faster even though it isn't "technically" a bug..

Message Edited by Elyssa on 10-04-2005 03:17 PM



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Elyssa Alexander (Elder Merchant Correspondent)
12pt. Master Structures Trader / Elder Jedi / Mayor, City of Metropolis
Shop Crazy Durni, Inc., now open in Metropolis, Corellia (885 -6605 Gorath)

"Why the big secret? People are smart, they can handle it."
"A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals and you know it."

Elyssa was 1000% correct
-Pawlin

Dimear
Tue Oct 04, 2005 3:51 pm
#12

I <3 you.

^ That's supposed to be a heart, not a butt or boobs.





Thus sayeth Dimear

Elyssa
Tue Oct 04, 2005 4:25 pm
#13

I thought it was some sort of bizarre mathematical formula.



------
Elyssa Alexander (Elder Merchant Correspondent)
12pt. Master Structures Trader / Elder Jedi / Mayor, City of Metropolis
Shop Crazy Durni, Inc., now open in Metropolis, Corellia (885 -6605 Gorath)

"Why the big secret? People are smart, they can handle it."
"A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals and you know it."

Elyssa was 1000% correct
-Pawlin

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