Medic Archive

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hamhamthe3rd wrote:

how about a defensive mod for the master medic, i mean the master dancer/musician has some. i guess some would say that healing damage is a defensive mod in itself but they forget that if you are healing damage then you are taking damage - mind damage. you have to keep alive a group of people at the risk of burning out your mind, effectively killing yourself, then you could at least be affordedsome useless defensive mod.

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Your asking why the devs did things as they did when they assigned the mods to proffessions? Silly rabbit. One must not question these things, for down that road lies madness. Really, there is no logical reason why musician gets defenses. Also chew on some other nonsensical tidbits, why do carbineers who are supposed to be the medium speed/damage ranged profession get +60 speed, and rifleman, who are supposed to be the slow speed/high damage profession get +90 speed? You will see alot of this silliness cleared up whenever the mythical Combat Upgrade takes place,....we hope.

Medics and doctors should first concern themselves with the welfare of others when out in the field. Then worry about combat. If you really want defense, look into a defensive minded profession. Fencer is a very high defense profesion.

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jassi007 wrote:
Your asking why the devs did things as they did when they assigned the mods to proffessions? Silly rabbit. One must not question these things, for down that road lies madness. Really, there is no logical reason why musician gets defenses. Also chew on some other nonsensical tidbits, why do carbineers who are supposed to be the medium speed/damage ranged profession get +60 speed, and rifleman, who are supposed to be the slow speed/high damage profession get +90 speed? You will see alot of this silliness cleared up whenever the mythical Combat Upgrade takes place,....we hope.

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That's the sad jist of it really. A MCM only has +6 Melee (one less then M Dancer) and +10 Ranged Defense, all from the Ranged Support tree. You do get +50 Terrain Negotiation (you run up any hill at full speed) and +10 Burst Run Eff but that's more for running from the fight then staying in it. While getting defenses from Medic may not work well (since you're only being trained to heal as a Medic) CM on the other hand should at least get some more Melee and Ranged Defense at Novice and Master (or in the ever useless, except for Heal Mind, Speed tree).

Still, it comes down to the fact more that Dancer shouldn't have Melee and Ranged D then Medic should.

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hamhamthe3rd wrote:

i seem to rememberreading that they want to remove receiving xp from healing outside of combat, thus putting the medic into combat aka harms way.if you are a medic and want to level you will need to be in combat, unless what i read is wrong.

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hamhamthe3rd wrote:

im so happy this forum moves slow enough that i can just manually search for my threads

anyway, with the "special bar" being put in place and no more "killing yourself" to do specials, that includes tumbling i would imagine, do you still think medics dont deserve or need defense mods?

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I don't. Medic is a completely non-combat starting profession. It is, and should remain, 100% about healing. You bring up that dancers and musicians have defenses. I have no idea why that was added and I don't think it's a fitting justification for adding defenses to medic. If you want to talk about adding defenses to CM, then that's different.

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hamhamthe3rd wrote:

what do you mean non-combat? if you mean hes not a combatant then that is one thing, but the medic must be in harms way. the smuggler is not a combat profession but he may find himself in harms way so his defense is that he is given abilities that may help him get away or survive. i dont want added abilities for the medic just added survival for when he must place himself on the field. i think theres great reason his abilities work on the field and not just healing, drag incapped for example. his abilities are also most needed on the field. the medic doesnt live in combat but hes certainly no stranger to it.

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We're talking about a starting profession here. If you want to heal in the field, that's great. You have 173 skill points left after mastering medic. Use them in combat professions that grant defenses. That's one of my favorite aspects of SWG. It's not class based, or even profession based, it's skill based. Our characters aren't defined by only the skills we have in medic. We can use our points in whatever way we see fit.

Message Edited by Obata on 02-10-2005 03:37 PM

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Obata wrote:
I don't. Medic is a completely non-combat starting profession. It is, and should remain, 100% about healing. You bring up that dancers and musicians have defenses. I have no idea why that was added and I don't think it's a fitting justification for adding defenses to medic. If you want to talk about adding defenses to CM, then that's different.

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First Aid
Drag Incap
The first is arguably an EMT ability (though combat is the only place it's used much in SWG), but the latter is certainly a battlefield medic ability. The Medic profession covers a lot of things, from medical manufacture to major healing to emergency treatment. Claiming that it is completely non-combat is disingenuous at best.