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Thread: Medic Faction in Combat

Manzeik
Wed Jul 16, 2003 7:56 am
#1

All of us medics like to get away from the dull monotony of the medical center. And even us medics have an aspiration to gain ranks within the imperial/rebel ranks. However if a medic were to decide to go all out healing, which is a great advantage to his group(with me healing my friend took out a red rebel when he used to only get it 1/8 the way down as long as i healed him).


However with the current grouping system the faction and experience is split based on how much damage was given by that player. This leads to a problem where when us medics are fighting factional enemies (npcs) we gain no faction from the kill yet we were a great and integral part in killing the npc. The problem with this is that in order for medics to gain/lose faction, they either have to quit healing and fight, which at high levels leaves some slack tot hem, or they can only rely on missions.


Since I am not one to propose a problem w/out a solution... It might be a possible solution if the dev's would link the faction gained/lost to how much/long medics healed the group during the battle. This way, if a medic doesn't participate, he doesn't get his share of faction gains/losses.

muran
Wed Jul 16, 2003 8:47 am
#2

Medics should certainly get some sort of faction points for healing those who are fighting factioned enemies.

If the get TEF's for doing so, their should certainly be some sort of reward

Alarain Sherill - Tyrena, Corellia - Eclipse



Alarain Sherill - Tyrena, Corellia - Eclipse
Valkyryn
Wed Jul 16, 2003 11:18 am
#3

There is a problem with proposing faction points for healing: it'd be way too easy to advance. Unless we're talking miniscule amounts of points for healing (0.01 faction pt./heal pt.), all you need is some all-black-HAM Wookiee to walk into the med center and *bam* you could go from completely neutral through two promotions in less than five minutes. A fully damaged character will have thousands wounds. Heck, I've got very little invested in physical stats, and I think I've got at least 3K between the six of them. A fully stat-migrated tank could have upwards of four or five thousand, possibly six if they're really hardcore. Even 1% of that would be 60 faction points.

I do, however, believe that faction points should be divided equally amongst a group, and it is my understanding that this is already the case. At least, I got decent amounts of points for inadvertantly running a Rebel mission with a covert.
Manzeik
Wed Jul 16, 2003 1:11 pm
#4

I found this not to be true.


Here is an example:


Me and my friend were attacking a rebel general (we were grouped, not sure about ungrouped). I took one shot at it, then proceeded to heal my friend while he killed it. He got 14 fp, i got a measly 1 fp. I find a problem with this.

Elenora
Wed Jul 16, 2003 1:16 pm
#5

well do destroy missions instead of just klling npcs...



I personally have never had a problem getting full fp...





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Elenora Kaadara Naboo Ahazi
Master Combat Medic/Master Surgeon/Master Chemist
Elenora's Drugs - Better lives through better medicines
Valkyryn
Wed Jul 16, 2003 7:38 pm
#6

I will plead ignorance here. I've gotten faction points by being grouped with a covert Rebel who was running a Rebel mission. I assisted in destroying the lair of an Imperial Sergeant and got plenty of faction points. I've never gone after NPCs yet, so have no knowledge of how that works.
Elenora
Thu Jul 17, 2003 12:02 am
#7

i think you are mistaken...as i recall from running my imp missions with my PA, faction points for destroys are spread over the whole part like reward money is...how much damange u do determines combat xp and weapon xp...


same goes with attacking faction npcs




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Elenora Kaadara Naboo Ahazi
Master Combat Medic/Master Surgeon/Master Chemist
Elenora's Drugs - Better lives through better medicines
Manzeik
Thu Jul 17, 2003 12:25 am
#8

Valkyryn, i think you misunderstood my idea. I agree with no medics getting faction for healing. I'm talking about how, when i'm fighting a rebel npc with my friend, and i'm only healing my friend. My friend gets all the imperial faction( and rebel faction loss) for the rebel kill, this is where i have the problem.


I believe that medics should be able to share in that imperial faction gain (and rebel faction loss).

Elenora
Thu Jul 17, 2003 12:51 am
#9

heres a solution...take 1 shot at the npc..thats all you need...


its not based on damage..its based on if u helped killed it at all or not...


i get full xp for npc rebel kills when grped and healing after i shoot the npc one time...




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Elenora Kaadara Naboo Ahazi
Master Combat Medic/Master Surgeon/Master Chemist
Elenora's Drugs - Better lives through better medicines
Elenora
Thu Jul 17, 2003 12:52 am
#10

edit xp should read fp



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Elenora Kaadara Naboo Ahazi
Master Combat Medic/Master Surgeon/Master Chemist
Elenora's Drugs - Better lives through better medicines
raistlin7447
Tue Jul 22, 2003 2:26 pm
#11

Elenora,


I think you are missing the point. Why do medics always get the answer to"do missions"?


Medics should do destroy missions to get faction points? Why? No combat class is required to, but they need the medic to fight NPCs (i.e. a rebel raid on Mos Espa). That's not a mission, but it is a raid for the cause. The medic is an integral part of the raid, they deserve just as many fp as the fighters.


I agree wholeheartedly that something needs to be done. A heal on a combatant that is in a fight with an enemy faction NPC would be a good solution.


As far as the concerns for getting too much fp for healing: this is very easy to handle. We just need to come up with a good ratio that balances out the fp gained compared to a fighter.


Raist




Cathail
Master Doctor / Master Combat Medic
Server: Sunrunner
PA: Whisper Death
Location: 3k north of Bela Vistal on Corellia
Elenora
Tue Jul 22, 2003 2:29 pm
#12

problem is its just too hard to code in a system for getting fp for healing without running into major exploits..id rather not get fps than have people running around with a bilion fp..we've already seen what thats like..remember the first 3 days of the game


people were running around in full storm trooper armor...




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Elenora Kaadara Naboo Ahazi
Master Combat Medic/Master Surgeon/Master Chemist
Elenora's Drugs - Better lives through better medicines
Tannym
Tue Jul 22, 2003 2:35 pm
#13

Just a side note: If it's YOUR mission being completed, you'll get more FP than the rest of the group


Aside from that: Faction for Medics on destroys sucks, faction in PvP sucks more.




- Kaleyn, Imperial Master Doctor / Novice Combat Medic
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