Medic Archive

THANK YOU ZARLOR!!!

It is nice to see a doctor with math skills for once. Somebody that realaizes that medics are losing out on xps and cash by going to the medical center. I charge 1k per ham bar to heal, and I still think it is a deal. That is what it costs to clone yourself. I double it because they are now not only paying for healing and supplies I use,k but now they must pay for convenience, especially if their whole HAM bar is black. I just refuse to help those people.

Again Zarlor, thank you for thinking coherently, which so many other doctors seem to have a hard time doing. I just hate to be made to look like a jerk for charging for heals.

I see no reason for anyone to think you a jerk for charging. I dislike the practice of labeling a chargeing medic greedy as much as I dislike seeing free healers badgered for degrading the profession. It's just two different ways to play the game.

The problem for most medics, really, is not only de we undervalue ourselves, but the other professions often greatly undervalue us in the exact same way. Worse, in many cases, because other professions don't always know what medics have to do to heal, They often just assume that the uber-heals a Doctor does is done by still using that /tendwound command. So I think they figure if it only costs us "manna" to heal and nothing else, and we get XP for it (like THAT would matter as much to someone at Master Doc anyway) that we shouldn't charge. They just don't understand what is involved and they don't sit back to consider how valuable a medic is in keeping a group going, or evenjust for savig them time in the Med Center.

All we can do is try to educate them. But in some waysI think we need to make sure we educate ourselves first.Are services AREworth more than most of us think.

I think we're going to have to agree to disagree on this. From travelling around.. i've noticed some med centers where you need to be charged, and some where you don't. If you're a medic and you require payment up front, more power to you.

I, for one, make a profit from tips, and i've never required them. I'll continue to do so.

-BD

I guess the problem comes down to this: what is your time worth? If it's worth your time to spend an hour making 15 of each woundpack and 4 of the smaller packs -- and that's an hour at best -- just so you can make 60 credits a patient...well, go ahead, I guess. After all, lemonade stands are cute.

Personally, there's no way that's worth my time. If I had to invest 15 minutes in order to do that task afk and earn that kind of money, I still wouldn't bother. 3k for 15 minutes of destroy? If you find the right terminals in the game -- the kind that give 800-1000 credit missions in the 150-250m distance range -- you can make a phenomenal amount. The most I've ever made was 43k in an hour doing missions. I'm a pistoleer so I can take out the hive and every single monster around it with a couple of point blanks, and then move on to my next mission. I can knock out 2 missions every 5 minutes if I'm moving slow, and pick up 1600-2000 credits.

Now, how much did you want to pay me per hour to sit in the med center?

I guess some docs enjoy med centers, which is good, cause I never set foot in there. I have a medical droid, I heal my friends and myself in the wild so I can avoid having to wade through the coattail riding lepers to get some treatment done.

The real reason a huge number of medics / docs / CMs are bitter is because of the 100-200 credit tips, IMO. When I get a 200 credit tip I feel like a pizza guy that got tipped a quarter. Only, the pizza guy is getting paid by the hour, and I'm just being nice. I've worked in a med center once, just once, and it was for about 6 hours straight to get my last level of diagnostics for master medic. In 6 hours I made -4k-. Mos Eisley, Bloodfin.

6 hours....4k...or do missions...1 hour...30k at a relaxed pace.

HMM.

Elef Ino, Master Medic, Pistoleer

I was directing my comments to medics who require payment. I think I used a poor word choice though.. I didn't mean any animosity of course. Just stating, much like you did, that there are these two types of medics co-exist... and we should probably stop bickering about the issue lol

-BD

Medics who charge wouldn't bother me as much if they were perhaps polite about it. Even in this thread, there are posts calling wounded players "pathetic" and whatnot. That's really not a good way to treat your fellow gamers. That's what bothers me.

Charge if you want, but don't be rude. And if you're being charged, just remember there's always someone around the corner who won't charge you for the service: me.

To Fabbie:

It's one thing to expect payment. It's a completely different thing to DEMAND payment.

Expecting payment is natural. You're providing a service for another person. I don't mind people who expect payment. I don't "expect" payment so I won't be disappointed when a not-so-courteous person decides not to tip me. Those who expect payment would be upset in a situation.... and that's when threads like this start.

DEMANDING payment gives out the "I'm holier than you" vibe. It shows that all you care about is getting more money than anyone else, and you don't care about the actual person you are helping (or not helping, in this case). If money, houses, and possessions are all you value in this game, you're missing out on a lot (just like in real life).

And, by the way, yes..... I did consider how insulting the comment was. I'm not scared to speak my mind, and I feel it is a very low class move. Those who conduct business this way should insulted. Those who don't act this way should be proud of themselves.

Im not sure if it has been said, only read half of the posts. So if im stealing what ur saying, im not, im just adding to it, making it the point.

I do not go and sit infront of a weaponsmiths house expecting him to hand me some rifles, or a DE a probot or 2. The way many people think of it is, well they are getting XP. So why not give me a gun. Why is healing any diffrent?

Again, once people start climbin the trees only meds will be in the medic center healing you 10 wounds every 30 secs, enjoy. The doctor belongs in a med center, not the medic, but it wont matter when you are not willing to shell out some cash. Either spend an hour or so being heald by a medic who should be dealing with damage not wounds, or pay a doctor to heal u up lickety split.

If anyone is still reading this post, great.

When I wrote that last reply I was a little steamed at some people, and I was rather rude. I called some people pathetic, which was one step in the wrong direction. I don't mean to be rude, but I think a guy that does not make a trip to the cloning facility, that comes to the medical center, should remember that they are paying not only for the convenience of not having to clone themselves, but they are also paying for my time. This includes the amount of time it takes me to make my pacs, and how long it takes to heal.

To be perfectly honest, I am not all as money grubbing as I sounded in the last post, for instance; when I am at the bank just shopping at the bazaar for instance, if I see a guy with signifigant DAMAGE, I will heal him without him even asking. In this scenario, I am doing this to be nice, not for xp or cash. I will even heal damage in the hospital when I am in there, but if I am busy and you interupt me to get healed, a tip of 250, up to 500 credits depending on the degree of wounds and the time it takes, but I do not think this is unreasonable. If a guy is making 25k and hour solo, and he comes in all but dead, I think paying that small amount is reasonable.

I just don't like it when it is taken for granted that I am benefiting so much from the xp that I don't even want money. If a guy in the hospital says "Hey, lets group together." I will do that. I will fully heal him between every mission, and be happy with my split of the money from the raids.

I apologize to those that I may have insulted in the last post, and I also am sorry for making this post 2 pages long.

I never charge or ask about tips. But then again even though I am a master medic CH is my main profession. If someone needs healing I just generally heal them. I keep woundpacks for healing myself and GF and I have all 6 types in my inventory so I can hit my /healwound and it takes care of it . I have healed alot of people who wonder into my camps some will tip me others wont.

Then again I have gone into med centers to heal up and had medics/doctors come over and start healing me and get a little anoyed when I dont tip. So I have made it a practice that if I go to a medcenter to heal I just get inside the door to heal myself and wander off.

I dont consider the cost per pack when i heal. It is the cost per day. I have 2 wind power plants 1 factory 1 chemical plant 1 water plant 2 mineral plants and aflora farm.My daily costs are 8250 cred a day. This does not take into consideration the time it takes to visit all these buildings on a daily baisis or the time it takes to run the missions to get the money to pay the maintance or the actual time it takes to make the packs. With resource shifts it costs me double that about 17K to move them all to another spot in adddition to the daily maintence. Someone earlier said that 200 cred was reasonable. Assuming that everone tips 200 i would have to see 41 patients a day. Since at lease half dont tip now it is 82 patients a day. Now since half of the people that do tip only tip 100 cred, now it is 164 patients a day. I think the most patients i have actually healed in a day is about 25. 164 times say 8 charges (2 in action and health and one in every other) is 1314 carges at say 22 charges for a cheap med B and that is almost 60 packs. I cant even make 60 packs a day even with the factory. Because of this i have had to become a carbiner and do distroy missons like the fighter classes. This means that it takes me a few hours to service the harvesters, craft the packs and do the missions. So the only time i am in the med center is if I am passing through (usualy on a mission or waiting for a shuttle). When i go in people go "Wow. A doctor. You dont usually see doctors in here?" Yeah im out making money. My best day i actually made 2500 in tips. To bad this is only about 1/4 of my daily costs. If everyone tipped 500-1000 for wound heals i would only need to do about 8-16 patients a day to cover my costs. If i was able to see more i would actually see a little profit. Then i might be able to buy the nice stuff that all the fighters have.

Additionally. I didnt even but my buildings. A fiend have them to me. Without him i would have needed about 50K to buy all these.

I am 3 boxes away from master doctor. I wont have to worry about this stuff then because people will either pay 1k or find someone else.