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GrndAdmiralThrawn
Sun Feb 06, 2005 4:03 pm
#1
OK, I read about having capitol ships in a bunch of posts, I also remember reading about PA Capitol ships, but here I am making a Petition that people could sign that like the idea. Also, I am not taking credit for being the origional idea maker-upper
, for this awesome idea.
, for this awesome idea.*****PLEASE /SIGN*****
PA Capitol Ships might include:
>anywhere from 6-22 turrets, I may be asking to much but... Ion Cannons-for disableing ENEMY PA fighters to tractor beam in so you could interrogate the prisoner. Turbolaser Batteries-for attacking ENEMY PACapitol ships with.NormalGunTurrets-for destroying other enemy ships, such as NPCs.
>a Hangar Bay-where you could hold anywhere from 4-18 friendly PA fighters that, when neccesary, passengers or the crew inside of the Capitol Ship could run into the Hangar Bay and jump into their ship to help defend it against Enemies attacking the Capitol Ship. (Note: You could visibly see each ship parked inside of the Hangar Bay along with their names and who it belongs to and its just simply a matter of going to the Starship console and launching the ship to... launch it.
>a large number of items that you could place inside of the Capitol ship for decoration
>a Crew Quarters- where there are beds with crew or PA members names on them. A Cantina/Galley- where Crew member could hangout and receive mind buffs or watch an entertainer. A Medical Facility- where crew member can receive Doctor buffs and be healed at. A Mall or Economic Area- where PA members can make shops with Vendors to sell their merchandise at. A TRAINING ROOM- wherepeople visiting the ship or Crew members could duel etc...***Anything that ground PA Cities have, but inside a ship in space.***
>before launching this vessel, The PA Guldmaster, or Three other selected, dependable, trustworthy PA members (Co-Captain, Firstmate, Secondmate, Etc...), whoever is captain of the ship, decides whether they are launching to be able to fight, in which case they will have a (Flag) broadcasting that they will fight enemy PA's. OR if they are just luanching so that anybody may dock with them to enjoy the PA's hospitality by shopping at the mall, enjoying the cantina, dueling in the training room, etc... So COMBAT, or ECONOMY.
>Shields-will be Extremely powerful, allowing around 20 shots before disabled. Armor-should be very sturdy so it may take about the same as the shields before becoming destroyed. I'm not very good at the balance of stuff like this so go ahead and post your thoughts, the devs can figure it out. Engines-can take a few punches before they are disabled but they could be repaired along with the shields, but they will go slower. Boosters-would be cool but itwill probably reducethe chances that a turret will hit an enemy because the people manning the turrets screens will start to shake or something. Droids and/or Computers- will help in the ways that they do with current fighters, maybe you could have droids wheeling around the ship making repairs that are neccesary. Missiles- like in fighters but the captain or co-Captain can choose the ships and those ship's components that they try to take out with. No countermeassures-but maybe a special turret, or allowing turrets to take the missiles out...
>these Capitol Ships will costa TON ofmoney and/or a TON of Faction points (depending on if it is a Neutral Captiol Ship, a Rebel Capitol Ship, or an Imperial Capitol Ship. So everybody must pitch in.
>maybe asmall varietyof these Capitol Ships for each Faction would be cool.
>in order to pilot the ship you have to be a master Pilot, Imperial Ace, Master Rebel Pilot or whatever. Or maybe there will be aNEW SPACEPROFFESSIONthat allows you to become one of these Capitol Ship Pilots.
>another part of these ships could be Special Docking Ports- where if in COMBAT mode, enemy PA fighters could dock onto the Capitol Ships and try to kill or attack the people inside, and maybe sabotage the engines, or kill the gunners (who will recieve warnings that enemies have boarded the ship). OR if in ECONOMY mode, anybody could come and dock into one of these Special Docking Ports and enter the Vessel to shop or relax at the cantina, Etc...
>the only way this can be implemented into the game probably is if it is in a Double Publish or something big, so dont get oyur hopes up, but Devs-Please consider this, and maybe reply...
>The PACapitalShip would probably beguild property so that everyone has access but onlythe masters fly it. That way, if its not in space and you're on, you can fly it, and if its already in space and you try to launch it, your sent to its bridge already being flown.
>For the problem withCapitol Ships in space 24/7,we putthe capital ship on several peoples data pads. (lets say 10 just for fun) and it would take a certain number to run it. (lets say at least 3) These people are basicly sayingthey are willing to free up one of there ship lots for this capital ship. /Salute
>Lets make the capital ships ALWAYS in space, controled by npc's-- pilot, co pilot, engineers, gunners, this would ensure an always manned crew, and a player could dock with it, enter it and take over for the npc for however long he or she desires. Now he or she could bring a group and "commandeer" this friendly ship and use it. We could make it a faction perk, make it cost a lot or so and then have someone place it out and make it available to all friendlies to use... sure you'd have a line next to the pilots seat but this would ensure an always manned crew. We could also make it so that you can board enemy capital ships, and try to commandeer it and make it friendly, make it part of the GCW, along with planet control, space secotr control. This is an EXCELLENT Idea, butI would only want this if GUILD Ships arent Possible
>It would be very useful to be able to install a gas collector on a capital ship in place of turrets or something. This would mine gases or chems in space. Makeing the capital ships more than just a large attack ship. I believe however, Capital ships are such powerful weapons they should always be overt and allowthe other side to attack it at any time. So if some guild built a ship and was getting tons and tons of gas and chems they would always have a problem if they were attacked, and if their turrets were replaced with extractors they will be less able to fight. In which case they would have no choice but run. So this would cause the capital ships to be forced tobring afighter escort or other capital ships to escort her. This would bring back the feeling of large ships being able to muilt task or having to go in groups with other "support ships" and not be the do all all mighty ship that no one can touch./Salute
>They shouldbe purchased as faction perks, that wayitis like buying a Base but for space,
a place where you can take your fighter for a SW to fix and go back to battle ASAP while the rest of the squadron keeps fighting, you deploy it, enter and people can move to their battle stations (this way you need MP ships to move the crew inside the CS ) or set it to auto in which case it is just an NPC from your faction, BUT they areonly deployable in DS to avoid interfering with Missions (i can see people getting 'vette missions on those) <HKoWalsky> Another Great Idea but depending on the shipI think that they should cost both Faction points and Credits, and for Neutral Capitol Ships, just more money than the other ones...
PLEASE post your thoughts and comments on this and...
*****PLEASE /SIGN*****Thank You!
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RagNoRock5x
Sun Feb 06, 2005 4:16 pm
#3
The DEVs do not pay any more attention to Petitions than they do to any other post.
The DEVs have heard of this idea to the point where there ears are bleeding.
I have no doubt that it will be implemented in some kind sooner (TM) or later.
And I greatly look forward to when this does come out 
And this is a very nicely done discription of the idea on that, I congradualte you on
GrndAdmiralThrawn
Sun Feb 06, 2005 4:17 pm
#5
yes it CAN be done, butit would take to much time todesign the ships, Etc... cost to much resources-and all that, but wecan alwayshope, or dream, or whatever... lol
please remember to /SIGN 
and thank you for your positive input
Message Edited by GrndAdmiralThrawn on 02-06-2005 03:19 PM
RagNoRock5x
Sun Feb 06, 2005 4:20 pm
#6
RagNoRock5x
Sun Feb 06, 2005 4:23 pm
#7
GrndAdmiralThrawn wrote:
yes it CAN be done, butit would take to much time todesign the ships, Etc... cost to much resources-and all that, but wecan alwayshope, or dream, or whatever... lol
please remember to /SIGN
and thank you for your positive input
It would not take any more, or very little, more art work and design to be done.
Most the ships are already coded in to JTL; corvettes, nebulon frigats andgun boats.
The interiors have already been done from the ground corvette.
Also I would definatly not hold my breath if you are thinking about PA Star Destroyers and Mon-Cal ships as those will never be implemented and that has been directly stated by the DEVs. They would cause way to much lagg in space.
GrndAdmiralThrawn
Sun Feb 06, 2005 4:38 pm
#8
RagNoRock5x wrote:
GrndAdmiralThrawn wrote:
yes it CAN be done, butit would take to much time todesign the ships, Etc... cost to much resources-and all that, but wecan alwayshope, or dream, or whatever... lol
please remember to /SIGN
and thank you for your positive input
It would not take any more, or very little, more art work and design to be done.
Most the ships are already coded in to JTL; corvettes, nebulon frigats andgun boats.
The interiors have already been done from the ground corvette.
Also I would definatly not hold my breath if you are thinking about PA Star Destroyers and Mon-Cal ships as those will never be implemented and that has been directly stated by the DEVs. They would cause way to much lagg in space.
Of course not Star Destroyers and Mon Calimari Cruisers, not even a Dreadnaught, maybe a Corvette, but im thinking of a little bit smaller eventhan a Corvette:
>MaybeI can get a few comments on types of Ships that these COULD be?
RagNoRock5x
Sun Feb 06, 2005 5:20 pm
#9
Lancer Frigats for Imperials
Corvettes for Rebels
Neblion frigats for Nutrals
Check out Galactic Concuqest mod for BF1942 to find out what thise look like (best fleght battles yet )
(best fleght battles yet ) Thiese wont have the amount of turrets you spoke of ealyer Probly around 5-9 max, same as the NPC Corvettes
Probly around 5-9 max, same as the NPC Corvettes
Balzan
Sun Feb 06, 2005 5:25 pm
#10
It is a great idea but the reason this wan't put in at the start is because the servers cannot handle contemplating so much player input. Most systems also can barely comprehend the lag that would be involved.
NOTE: this isn't an anti-sign just saying that the servers would need some "growing up time" to be able to handle lag of that type...
(And yes I do know there is already an internal map for the Corellian Corvette in game. I'm actually insane in saying that I'm listening to the devs)
NOTE: this isn't an anti-sign just saying that the servers would need some "growing up time" to be able to handle lag of that type...
(And yes I do know there is already an internal map for the Corellian Corvette in game. I'm actually insane in saying that I'm listening to the devs
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Imperialking
Sun Feb 06, 2005 5:38 pm
#11
A Lot of those posts asking for larger ship or capital ships are from me. Capital ships in some form (ANY FORM AT THIS POINT I WILL TAKE ANYTHING) I have been wanting ever since I heard of SWG talking about expanding into space. I would be more than happy with any of the capital ship idea out there and I support this idea as well. When I tell people this in SWG when we are talking about thisissue they point to desimators and nova crusers. They are a step in teh right direction but not what a lot of people are wanting. We are wanting large ships that allow you to just about live in space and be able to do mult tasks and events in space on a ship that you own or a guild owns. And of course have large space battles.
I am Guild Leader Corteo and I approve this message
/sign
JamesBenson
Sun Feb 06, 2005 5:51 pm
#12
For a long time I've been supporting these ideas so you definitely have my /sign
GrndAdmiralThrawn
Sun Feb 06, 2005 5:54 pm
#13
Imperialking wrote:
A Lot of those posts asking for larger ship or capital ships are from me. Capital ships in some form (ANY FORM AT THIS POINT I WILL TAKE ANYTHING) I have been wanting ever since I heard of SWG talking about expanding into space. I would be more than happy with any of the capital ship idea out there and I support this idea as well. When I tell people this in SWG when we are talking about thisissue they point to desimators and nova crusers. They are a step in teh right direction but not what a lot of people are wanting. We are wanting large ships that allow you to just about live in space and be able to do mult tasks and events in space on a ship that you own or a guild owns. And of course have large space battles.
I am Guild Leader Corteo and I approve this message
/sign
YeahI got my idea after reading your posts, and i agree: anything that can allow you to live in space would be cool too, i like the veteran reward but there isnt much interaction with it. another idea i had was a publish or an expansion that would allow you to go INSIDE the space stations. So another form of my idea stated above would be PA Space-Stations. With all the features i listed above but with space stations.
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