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Old_Ben_Bomobi
Wed Jan 14, 2004 7:53 pm
#1

A couple weeks ago i made some really awesome advanced blade vibro units, about 500 in a factory run. Im trying to make another factory run now with the EXACT same resources, and the max damage is only reaching the minimum damage of the old ones. Do i need to hold my mouth a certain way, or do it at a certain time or something? Or has something about the schematic changed between now and then? Im puzzled why im having these results. There were no enhancements of any kind on the old ones. here are the stats of the old and new respectivly:



damage 37-56


speed -.52


wound 18


wpn range 0-5


wpn range max-3


wpn range ideal-5


ham 9/6/9



Damage 23-35


speed -.32


wound 11


wpn range 0- 7


wpn range max-11


wpn range ideal- 11


ham 8/8/9



anyone have ideas?




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Soar
Wed Jan 14, 2004 8:08 pm
#2

There is a bug that happens allowing you to get exceptionally high results on final experimentation. It can happen in the normal construction of things and unless they are aware of it, most smiths will justbthink they caught a lucky break.

The bug is considered an exploit and most people will delet these schematics once they know they are not legitimate builds. Some smiths have chosen to make use of the bug to boost their quality, but these player have received a lot of heat from thier fellow weaponsmiths.

hopefully they will get to fixing it soon.
Old_Ben_Bomobi
Wed Jan 14, 2004 8:13 pm
#3

ok, thanks for the info



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Lyzi
Thu Jan 15, 2004 3:18 am
#4






Soar wrote:
There is a bug that happens allowing you to get exceptionally high results on final experimentation. It can happen in the normal construction of things and unless they are aware of it, most smiths will justbthink they caught a lucky break.

The bug is considered an exploit and most people will delet these schematics once they know they are not legitimate builds. Some smiths have chosen to make use of the bug to boost their quality, but these player have received a lot of heat from thier fellow weaponsmiths.

hopefully they will get to fixing it soon.




This is not a bug (or atleast it has not to my knowledge been confirmed as a bug)
I managed to get a lucky damage increase on a run of Laser rifles, I contacted CSR and asked if this was considered a bug, or if it would be considered exploiting to sell these weapons.

The answer I received was that it was a part of the game and gave me green light to sell it, I got a screenshot of the answer and I've been selling my awsome Laser rifles all week.

several weaponsmiths on eclipse has indeed emailed CSR in the past and asked about this and all received the same answer - it is not a bug or exploit.


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LLJK_Griz
Thu Jan 15, 2004 3:47 am
#5

CSRs are notoriously uninformed about whether certain things are bugs or not, but I can't imagine anyone getting banned for accidentally triggering a bug somehow. You'd only have to worry if you figured out how to duplicate it and everything you made had the enhanced stats.



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OverClock
Thu Jan 15, 2004 6:09 am
#6

I think you are pretty much covered if you report the incident before taking advantage over it. However if your gettin a lot of "accidents" and benefit from "unintentional" bugs daily the Devs will nail your butt quickly.






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Gaarl
Thu Jan 15, 2004 7:48 am
#7

Maybe it's an undocumented "masterpiece" feature.If you have a bunch ofestablished weaponsmiths, all with access to the same resources, they're all going to get nearly identical results on normal weapons. To me, that's notmuch fun (I'm in this situation now). The differentiation comes in marketing,salesmanship, and customer service, which should *not* be the focus of a weaponsmith - that's what the Merchant is for.


Why would a new weaponsmith want to try to get into that market to compete, when they don't have access tothe same resources? It's a major pain to grind all the way up to master and realize that your "perfect" guns are 0.5 slower and 20 max damage below your nextdoor neighbour, who's selling them at a price so low it would take you years to pay back your grinding costs.


A feature like this gives me hope, and should give new weaponsmiths hope, that maybe I can craft an advanced sword core that's 30% better than the best anyone has ever seen. Honestly, this really sounds like a feature to make the already amazing crafting and economic systems a little more realistic... and a little more exciting.



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amevil2
Mon Sep 13, 2004 2:25 pm
#8


On the first phase of the viliage i unlocked the reflex tree. Dont like the tree I unlocked so I started dumping XP into the Combat tree. Well when I got to the 50K needed to unlock the Combat tree I was like what the hell and decided to talk to the guy that trains you. Well he trained me in novice Combat . Now, does this meen I had a free unlock, or does it meen that you can unlock all the novice trees and just cant do any of the specific 4 trees or what?



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Quadork
Mon Sep 13, 2004 2:27 pm
#9

You had a free unlock. You may have more.



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TuvarSwaeda
Mon Sep 13, 2004 2:28 pm
#10

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natdwg
Thu Nov 04, 2004 6:19 pm
#11

Hey all:


I am a little confused here. I am a Freelance 3 3 3 3. I am able to use components up to level 7. Matter of fact, I have level 7 components installed on my ships already. I am trying to change componets in my Kimo heavy fighter.

Here is the problem. I tried putting in a new shield generator (level 6) and it said

"(unlocalized) this object cannot be manipulated by you"


Ok, I figured that maybe I cant use that shield generator. I try to put my old shield generator back in and it again says

"(unlocalized) this object cannot be manipulated by you"


I try another experiment. I take off a level 7 weapon component and try to put a level 3 weapon in. Says the same thing. I try to put back in the weapon I had in it before, and it says the same thing yet again.

Anyone have any idea what that is all about?

Thanks

RSQViper
Thu Nov 04, 2004 6:21 pm
#12


By any chance is your inventory full?


I just made 3333 and am going to see what happens.


EDIT: Just put in a lvl 4 with no problem and a few other lower level things. And into a Kimo too.

Message Edited by RSQViper on 11-04-2004 08:23 PM



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natdwg
Thu Nov 04, 2004 6:38 pm
#13

Nope, inventory is not full. THanks for response though
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