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Yurin
Sun Oct 24, 2004 3:57 pm
#1

when you want to land on a planet...what happens?


Does it look like you are flying down into the atmosphere or do you just click on 'land' fromspace andget a loading screen? . Is there any cut scenes?


Do other players on the ground see your ship coming into the starport and taking off like you see the shuttles.


Ireally liked frontier where you could fly from space down through the atmosphere and land, it made the whole universe feel more real and made the planets seem more real when you were flying above them. I doubt they have gone this far, which is a pity...
NuclearDevil
Sun Oct 24, 2004 3:58 pm
#2

You go to the space station, talk to the guy, select the starport you want to land on,a nd the voila, you're at the loading screen... then you pop up at the starport.



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Yurin
Sun Oct 24, 2004 4:05 pm
#3

duh,,,,it could have been done so much better.....why they dont seem to bother with the extra polish that really adds immersion i dont know.


I was hoping that from the ground at a busy starport you would see lots of player ships landing and taking off. It gives the feeling of a real connection between the groundand space game.


Would itreally have taken a great deal of effort to allow you to fly down to the surface? I know only a small map of the planet is modelled but you could follow a set path in that you couldnt deviate from....when reachinga certain altitude the ground map is loaded ..you then follow a set path to starport and land.


sigh....ah well....i knew they would never have gone to those lengths
MajorReb
Sun Oct 24, 2004 4:08 pm
#4

It would have caused massive lag. Also, it was cause huge griefing because of ships firing on people on the groud. Also, a twitch shooter and a turn-based rpg couldnt combine engines to make it work. Also, adding atmosphere would be a huge project.


Would have been real cool though



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Lorana_redora16
Sun Oct 24, 2004 4:11 pm
#5

hm why so much lag

watch out the sky at tatooine also much flying stuff there and no lag what would be diferent?
AvamoorSkyblade
Sun Oct 24, 2004 4:13 pm
#6

Although that would be cool, and i would love to see that, but something like that is really hard to do. Integrating both the space zones and the ground ones would take a lot of work, it would be buggy and it would lag up the servers like hell, especially if you have like 50 people doing it at the same time.

But i agree, even if it was justlike a tiny video clip or something of a ship landing would be so much better than just a loading screen. Thats also what bugged me for the public shuttles... they could at least show a movie of it taking off. Like if you've played planetside, something like what they do there with their shuttles would be really cool.
Jay-Bird
Sun Oct 24, 2004 5:21 pm
#7






Yurin wrote:

duh,,,,it could have been done so much better.....why they dont seem to bother with the extra polish that really adds immersion i dont know.


I was hoping that from the ground at a busy starport you would see lots of player ships landing and taking off. It gives the feeling of a real connection between the groundand space game.


Would itreally have taken a great deal of effort to allow you to fly down to the surface? I know only a small map of the planet is modelled but you could follow a set path in that you couldnt deviate from....when reachinga certain altitude the ground map is loaded ..you then follow a set path to starport and land.


sigh....ah well....i knew they would never have gone to those lengths





ok imagien this.......


How long did it take LucasArts LTD. to make Episode 2 flying scenes, SCRIPTED.


Now, to make it in game, you have to make a scene by scene replica of EACH ttype of ship, with EACH paint job, with EACH weapon, with EACH planet...with EACH starport, and then the angles and such....it would take TONS of work.....





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NuclearDevil
Sun Oct 24, 2004 5:25 pm
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Jay-Bird wrote:


Yurin wrote:
duh,,,,it could have been done so much better.....why they dont seem to bother with the extra polish that really adds immersion i dont know.
I was hoping that from the ground at a busy starport you would see lots of player ships landing and taking off. It gives the feeling of a real connection between the ground and space game.
Would it really have taken a great deal of effort to allow you to fly down to the surface? I know only a small map of the planet is modelled but you could follow a set path in that you couldnt deviate from....when reaching a certain altitude the ground map is loaded ..you then follow a set path to starport and land.
sigh....ah well....i knew they would never have gone to those lengths


ok imagien this.......

How long did it take LucasArts LTD. to make Episode 2 flying scenes, SCRIPTED.

Now, to make it in game, you have to make a scene by scene replica of EACH ttype of ship, with EACH paint job, with EACH weapon, with EACH planet...with EACH starport, and then the angles and such....it would take TONS of work.....






No... They just have to make an in-game movie. All they have to do is take the client model of the ship and insert into the movie. They don't have to make a dynamic, 3d movie.



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Jay-Bird
Sun Oct 24, 2004 5:41 pm
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NuclearDevil wrote:





Jay-Bird wrote:





Yurin wrote:

duh,,,,it could have been done so much better.....why they dont seem to bother with the extra polish that really adds immersion i dont know.


I was hoping that from the ground at a busy starport you would see lots of player ships landing and taking off. It gives the feeling of a real connection between the ground and space game.


Would it really have taken a great deal of effort to allow you to fly down to the surface? I know only a small map of the planet is modelled but you could follow a set path in that you couldnt deviate from....when reaching a certain altitude the ground map is loaded ..you then follow a set path to starport and land.


sigh....ah well....i knew they would never have gone to those lengths





ok imagien this.......


How long did it take LucasArts LTD. to make Episode 2 flying scenes, SCRIPTED.


Now, to make it in game, you have to make a scene by scene replica of EACH ttype of ship, with EACH paint job, with EACH weapon, with EACH planet...with EACH starport, and then the angles and such....it would take TONS of work.....









No... They just have to make an in-game movie. All they have to do is take the client model of the ship and insert into the movie. They don't have to make a dynamic, 3d movie.





I don't knwo producing but still, even if it doesn't take me long to make the movie, it'd take em a long time to code it, de-bug it, and ect.



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Kivan28
Sun Oct 24, 2004 5:59 pm
#10

Actually I doubt It'd be hard to make those cut-scenes, All they'd need to do Is have 3d models of all the ships and a starport. Then all they need to do Is slip textures onto textured ships, change the scenary of each starport and.. thats It really, doesnt seem that hard to me..



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Jay-Bird
Sun Oct 24, 2004 6:32 pm
#11

it may not seem hard to you, but are you the one who has tod o it. I bet its harder, and, if they made it in a simple way liek that, people with bad comps/internet connection would liklyhave trouble.....



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