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Message Edited by RodianOutlaw on 11-15-2004 01:17 AM

Sounds good, except I'd make the things you can get for Prestige Points a bit less useful. They should be objects of coolness instead of usefulness, otherwise it will end up as another Jedi grind - if you can get all the parts for a 'ubership' by endless grinding of Prestige Points, that's what everyone will end up doing, thus forcing everyone else to do it in order to be competitive. Rewards should be along the lines of a special paint job, special helmets, even 'exceptional' ship parts - but limited to, for example, a single Prestige Point ship part on one ship, or something like that.

One thing that is missing in this game is the uniqueness factor - you can't, for example, say 'I got this slugthrower from Nym himself as a reward for my services', because everyone else already has 10 of those in their weapon cabinet. We need things like that in JTL and in the ground game.

/agree

This is a good idea, though I do agree that the grind-factor for everyone else could be crippling. The solution, as I see it, is to give Prestige Exceptional items either UNGODLY mass or UNGODLY reactor requirements. Not so much that you have to hose the rest of your ship, but enough so that having more than, say, two of them would require you to put a mediocre piece somewhere else. That's an easy way to limit Prestige Exceptionals without creating new item rules.

And yes, people will whine, "OMFG!!!!1 devs Y dont U ply UR gamezzz???" But people will whine no matter what you do in an MMO, and at least this would make things relatively fair, while still giving people who spend the Prestige something of an edge.

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riotcontrol wrote:
Sounds good, except I'd make the things you can get for Prestige Points a bit less useful. They should be objects of coolness instead of usefulness, otherwise it will end up as another Jedi grind - if you can get all the parts for a 'ubership' by endless grinding of Prestige Points, that's what everyone will end up doing, thus forcing everyone else to do it in order to be competitive. Rewards should be along the lines of a special paint job, special helmets, even 'exceptional' ship parts - but limited to, for example, a single Prestige Point ship part on one ship, or something like that.

One thing that is missing in this game is the uniqueness factor - you can't, for example, say 'I got this slugthrower from Nym himself as a reward for my services', because everyone else already has 10 of those in their weapon cabinet. We need things like that in JTL and in the ground game.

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I agree 100% with this sentiment. Enhancements are an important part of the ground game, but should not be in JTl. First of all because of the grind factor. Second because players will then use any exploit or other means to get them. Third because it opens a whole balance debate (and fairness debate as well). The rewards in space should be cool, but should keep the playing field level.

The underlying philosophy which I espousing here is that JTL should be encouraged for the fun of the game and not for loot or advantages.

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riotcontrol wrote:
Sounds good, except I'd make the things you can get for Prestige Points a bit less useful. They should be objects of coolness instead of usefulness, otherwise it will end up as another Jedi grind - if you can get all the parts for a 'ubership' by endless grinding of Prestige Points, that's what everyone will end up doing, thus forcing everyone else to do it in order to be competitive. Rewards should be along the lines of a special paint job, special helmets, even 'exceptional' ship parts - but limited to, for example, a single Prestige Point ship part on one ship, or something like that.

One thing that is missing in this game is the uniqueness factor - you can't, for example, say 'I got this slugthrower from Nym himself as a reward for my services', because everyone else already has 10 of those in their weapon cabinet. We need things like that in JTL and in the ground game.

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YES!

I completely agree with you...we definately need to do something like that...something cool that we can get to show off our master piloting ability .

/agree

this would be AWSOME! sure it would cause some people to grind, but isn't that what you're doing now anyway? even have the ship parts "ranked" in that you pay more prestige, you get better parts.