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NickHeel
Fri Oct 29, 2004 7:43 pm
#1

I would like to know, for whatever reason, this was not added. Considering that every ship in the Privateer tree (except the YT-1300 and Firespray) are all new to the world of Star Wars created by SOE...why did they not make one of them a two-seater!?


The only semi-reasonable explanation for this would be to encourage more people to take up the Alliance Pilot or Imperial Pilot trees. But really, for the people that want to fly a YT-1300...they can still participate and be in the GCW and fly a Privateer ship. It really makes no sense.


Now I'm not saying it'd be a quick fix or something they just "left out" because they didn't have the time. This was asked about in the Beta forums many times and I still don't recall seeing a response by a Developer. So I'm asking for a response now, please. Why was this not implemented for Privateers when both ground-factioned Rebels/Imperials can choose to be Privateers. I think it just takes away from the fun factor of the Privateer tree which already doesn't have the best "special tactics" or droid programs.


I'm sure there'll be someone post and say that "if you want to fly a two-seater, take up the Rebel or Imp Pilot professions!" but really...why should I be forced to do that? It really makes no sense in my opinion. If you think I'm wrong...well, hey, more power to you and that's your choice. I'm just saying what I think.


Thanks for any decent responses. I just wanna be able to be my Privateer Pilot and take my girlfriend or friends up with me to blast some Black Sun ships!




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YamadaMan
Fri Oct 29, 2004 7:59 pm
#2



NickHeel wrote:
this would be to encourage more people to take up the Alliance Pilot or Imperial Pilot trees.





this is probably a part of the answer, the ground game is similar, you get advantages being in either rebel alliance or empire.



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riotcontrol
Fri Oct 29, 2004 8:08 pm
#3


YamadaMan wrote:

NickHeel wrote:
this would be to encourage more people to take up the Alliance Pilot or Imperial Pilot trees.



this is probably a part of the answer, the ground game is similar, you get advantages being in either rebel alliance or empire.



Currently, there are no ship certifications at Master Privateer, as opposed to both factional Pilot professions, and Privateer doesn't even get a 2-seater.

To encourage people to take up the Alliance or Imperial Pilot professions, there should be factional rewards tied in with a more meaningful GCW, both on ground and in space. The current situation isn't encouraging people to play a factional Pilot, but just discouraging them from playing a Privateer.



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Kibbypoo
Fri Oct 29, 2004 9:42 pm
#4

the yt-1300 is a multi passanger ship, one person can fly others can man the guns on the top and bottom of the ship.
lokidevil
Fri Oct 29, 2004 9:52 pm
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Kibbypoo wrote:
the yt-1300 is a multi passanger ship, one person can fly others can man the guns on the top and bottom of the ship.




Yes but we don't get atwo seater like the rebel Y-wing and the TIE Agressor.


Also Imp and Rebels get a solo ship at master level but we do not. B-wing and Tie Opressor (i think). Sure we get access to the Firespray but every master does.


Privateers really are the smuggler of space.....they got shafted as well


All proffesions get multiclass ships but Privateers are the only ones not to get a two seater






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Vicotnik
Fri Oct 29, 2004 9:54 pm
#6






YamadaMan wrote:





NickHeel wrote:

this would be to encourage more people to take up the Alliance Pilot or Imperial Pilot trees.







this is probably a part of the answer, the ground game is similar, you get advantages being in either rebel alliance or empire.



Nah, the answer is probably that the 2-seater ships were an afterthought, they didn't become 2-seaters until fairly late in beta, I believe.




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Savageda
Fri Oct 29, 2004 10:36 pm
#7

"Privateers really are the smuggler of space.....they got shafted as well"


This is perhaps the greatest line that I've ever heard on the boards. Kudos to you, good sir!



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NickHeel
Sat Oct 30, 2004 10:17 am
#8






riotcontrol wrote:

Currently, there are no ship certifications at Master Privateer, as opposed to both factional Pilot professions, and Privateer doesn't even get a 2-seater.

To encourage people to take up the Alliance or Imperial Pilot professions, there should be factional rewards tied in with a more meaningful GCW, both on ground and in space. The current situation isn't encouraging people to play a factional Pilot, but just discouraging them from playing a Privateer.




Very nice post, riotcontrol!


I think you summed up what I was trying to say very nicely with the last paragraph.


The GCW incentives should be the way to go. That way factioned players on the ground would have more reason to continue the fight for the Alliance/Emperor in space. Maybe add a small FP bonus or grouping bonus for defense (although this should be done through Squad Leaders but...ya know how the ground/space thing is) or something.


Riotcontrol really stated it the best when he said "The current situation isn't encouraging people to play a factional Pilot, but just discouraging them from playing a Privateer" and this is dead on. Me and my girlfriend have been playing this game together since March (Day 1 for me) and I almost took up Rebel Pilot just so we could fly the Y-Wing together...I was going to give up the YT-1300, the Black Sun fighters, and flying for the Smuggler's Alliance just for the two-seater. Had it been a factional incentive and Privateer had a 2-seater, it wouldn't have made a lick of difference since we're both neutral and plan on staying that way until they add a 3rd criminal/Hutt faction in 2011.


I do believe they added the two-seater capability with about 2 or so weeks left in Beta. I think it was shortly after they did the PvP weekend. What I don't get is why they decided not to do it to a Privateer ship. The Kimogila Heavy Hutt already has a circular turret looking thing on top. It'd be like going to Wal*Mart with your threetwins and buying two of them toysfor playing inband at schooland leaving the 3rd one out because he just didn't like band and wanted to play baseball.






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Gunndor
Sat Oct 30, 2004 1:11 pm
#9

I'm a privteer pilot and it not such a big thing to not get a two seater. personally i feel that a privteers we should get to fly any ship we get our hands on ( no matter how it's aquired) as we are smugglers, cut throats etc....


but if you really need a two seater go imperial or rebel.
willismaximus
Sat Oct 30, 2004 2:17 pm
#10

I'd gladly forget the two-seater if they just bring our mass levels, I dunno, *remotely* in line with the other 2 factions. Breakdown:


Light Fighters

Kihrazx, 30K A wing 65k TIE interceptor 50K


Medium

Ixiyen 80K X wing 100K (dunno TIE advanced)


Bombers

Rihkxark 130K TIE Bomber 190K Y-Wing (I think) 150K


Anybody see anything wrong with this picture?? Makes me sick.





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