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Thread: Development of the Space Game: Is anything happening?

Chich327
Wed May 25, 2005 10:02 am
#1

Hey all, its been a long while since I've posted.

I've been playing around with the JTL, and I'm having quite a bit of fun with it. It is very simple to get into and I think the engine has a lot of potential.

What I'm worried about a few things, and it centers around this feeling I get that development of the space game is not on the "to do" list of the devs.

GCW

It is great that I have a bunch of missions to do as a rebel pilot. I'm worried that once i master rebel pilot, I won't have much more to do in terms of the GCW. In talking with others on my server and from my experiences, I don't notice any major PvP or even PvE battles in space with the two factions. Some of the most exciting scenes in Star Wars was with the major battles above planets involving fleets of Capital ships and bunches of star fighters. My feeling is those types of battles in the GCW are just as important as the ones that take place on land, so shouldn't we see at least some development towards that?

Life in Space

Shouldn't there be people living and functioning in space? On cap ships, space stations, or whatever, I feel that space's importance would be enhanced if people could advance through all aspects of the game while in space.

Its nice that the RotW game has added features like mining and the in-space quests, but I feel as if there should be some priorities set for space, and some real "in-concept" discussion about how to make space a more important part of the game.

Maybe its just me.

Dani





Chich
tokeway
Wed May 25, 2005 10:10 am
#2








Chich327 wrote:
Hey all, its been a long while since I've posted.

I've been playing around with the JTL, and I'm having quite a bit of fun with it. It is very simple to get into and I think the engine has a lot of potential.

What I'm worried about a few things, and it centers around this feeling I get that development of the space game is not on the "to do" list of the devs.


correct

GCW

It is great that I have a bunch of missions to do as a rebel pilot. I'm worried that once i master rebel pilot, I won't have much more to do in terms of the GCW. In talking with others on my server and from my experiences, I don't notice any major PvP or even PvE battles in space with the two factions. Some of the most exciting scenes in Star Wars was with the major battles above planets involving fleets of Capital ships and bunches of star fighters. My feeling is those types of battles in the GCW are just as important as the ones that take place on land, so shouldn't we see at least some development towards that?


your worries are correct too

Life in Space

Shouldn't there be people living and functioning in space? On cap ships, space stations, or whatever, I feel that space's importance would be enhanced if people could advance through all aspects of the game while in space.

Its nice that the RotW game has added features like mining and the in-space quests, but I feel as if there should be some priorities set for space, and some real "in-concept" discussion about how to make space a more important part of the game.

Maybe its just me.


no sir, not just you

Dani












tokewae
Klinsek
Thu May 26, 2005 7:41 am
#3

I rarely see other players in space, let alone have pvp experiences. From what I hear, Kessel(pvp zone) is a ghost zone.

I just don't think enough people are interested in space. I know quite a few people that don't even have JTL.

I think giving JTL free with ROTW is there way of marketing it a bit. Hopefully we will see more people up there in time with all the new ships and missions.




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TheDarkmoons
Thu May 26, 2005 8:10 am
#4

Development of the Space Game = Adding Jedi Starfighter/Grevious Starfighter/Advanced X-wing as Space Composite.




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Narut0
Thu May 26, 2005 8:39 am
#5



Klinsek wrote:
I rarely see other players in space, let alone have pvp experiences. From what I hear, Kessel(pvp zone) is a ghost zone.

I just don't think enough people are interested in space. I know quite a few people that don't even have JTL.

I think giving JTL free with ROTW is there way of marketing it a bit. Hopefully we will see more people up there in time with all the new ships and missions.




PVP is a little to overpowered at the moment well since always.

i mean all it takes to destroy another player is 2 direct hits from a heavly overcharged laser cannon. or a nice high dmg missile right up the rearend



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SpaceCrazy
Thu May 26, 2005 9:36 am
#6

Kessel isn't a PVP zone. Shortly after JTL was launched it was changed to a PVE zone due to the master missions being in Kessel and people camping the load-in spots to kill anyone hypering to the area before they had a chance to respond.

At the time I was hoping it was temporary as I thought having a PVP zone for non-master pilots was a good thing. But it had to be done to stop the griefing going on. Having a PVE mission, especially the master missions, in a PVP zone was a very poor idea in the first place.



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serpentsbane
Thu May 26, 2005 6:36 pm
#7

especially from a gcw point of view, i would love to see space stations that could be boarded as functionalcities. shipyards would be a nice touch as well and a great place to raid for xp or some cool story driven missions. and i think we could all agree that player controlled capital ships should be in game, even if they are smaller capital ships like vettes that could be run with a crew of 4-8 players. but i do agree that space has some awesome potential and could breath some much needed life into the game and certainly help the current morale. just my 2 cents
FM_Warblood
Thu May 26, 2005 7:57 pm
#8



I havefound space to be boring after or maybe even beforeI mastered pilot. It is the same thing over and over and over. I love flight sims but this isnt even close to that felling for me. If you compaired it to say IL-2 or Microsofts Combat Flight Sims it wouldnt even rank.

Do one mission in a B-17 with 8 other people on-liine and you would laugh at SWG's multiplayer ships.


Or how about a Spitefire? One flight in that and you would never want to fly an A-wing again.


And what about Lock-on? Kill a ground radar station in a A-10and then yank and bank to get that SAM off your 6 and you will be looking at JTL a whole new way.


And the Me 262 is the shnitz. Gotta really be good at controling both engines as not to burn them out and catch fire but man is it a blast to fly when you learn how. Anything in SWG can be jumped right into and dont require any type of skill to learn. Every ship is the same and has no detailed flight controls or operations.


Even ejecting in most flight sims is cool. Cant say that for JTL.


Of course the Flight Sims I play are very well thought out and researched and they show it.JTL justdosnt do it for me. Cant really say why . If it was a stand alone game it would be a major flop in my list of flight sims.


Message Edited by FM_Warblood on 05-26-2005 11:13 PM

psikobunny
Thu May 26, 2005 8:04 pm
#9

Nope, you folks aren't too jaded (or demanding)


They just got through the cycle of adding duty missions for each tier (tier5 being launched alongside rotw) This is the meat of the sandwich, something they had to get through and get out before they could work on adding garnishes.


All the while they have been fixing bugs (yeah adding new ones I know, but still fixing them)


As well as devoting time to fixing shipwright crafting, and adding new ships and craftables


When the dev team focuses on bugfixes people whine for content. When they add new content people whine for bugfixes. All this has been going on at the same time as a major revamp of the other half of the game! You really need to gain a sense or perspective here.





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