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My idea of how to "fix" (or rather, re-balance to its more fair/logical/realistic) Jump to Lightspeed.



STAGE I: PRIVATEER REVAMP


The new-look Privateer certifications.


Novice Privateer:
CorSec
Smugglers Alliance
RSF

Tier 1:
Light Black Sun
Light Hutt

Tier 2:
Medium Black Sun
Medium Hutt
Medium Neutral

Tier 3:
Heavy Black Sun
Heavy Hutt

Tier 4:
Black Sun "Supa Fighter" Raider (2-seater)
Hutt Raider
Neutral Raider

Master Privateer:
Master Black Sun
Master Hutt (2-seater)
Master Neutral (MP)
Master Neutral 2 (MP)



To qualify for the Black Sun / Jabba craft, you need to complete the badges from their Theme Park. If you do, (note: Black Sun could be Nym), you could approach a pilot NPC, and ask to join their "faction". This is more suited to people in the Smuggler's Alliance, but if you look at it along the lines of where you got your pilot TRAINING, it doesn't really matter.


The "starter ships" are more Tier 1 ships, but you get the certifications for them at Novice. They should last you through Tier 1, and up the first tree of Tier 2, so their mass should be equivalent to a Tier 1 ship. They'll carry you over until you can get the "Medium Neutral", or until you can get Black Sun/Hutt ships.

Doing it this way provides any Privateer pilot to a total of 9 (or 5) ships, which is more in-tune with what the other factions have. Okay, so the "neutral" stuff isn't obsenely packed with ships, but I'm sure there are a few more out there that the devs could add in, so there's a Light Neutral, Heavy Neutral, and Master Neutral too. Some ideas could be this, this, or this.


"Slave II" is the MP ship for Privateer, and not the YT-1300. Why? See the next stage to find out.

Message Edited by groovysplat101 on 04-16-2005 02:22 AM

STAGE II: MULTIPERSON REVAMP


In Stage I, I introduced a new MP ship for the Privateers, which I thought was more appropriate. "Slave II" is a former police ship, so it certainly fits with CorSec and RSF, but it also found its way into the hands of Boba Fett. Since MP ships are master craft anyway, and numbers are gonna be limited...I thought it'd be reasonable for Privateers, who are probably going to be CorSec/RSF or some kind of underworldly person anyway, to end up with this craft.


What Stage II proposes is the suplementation of the existing MP ships with new ones. These ships will be as follows:


Rebel:
Nova Courier (Medium)
ATR Assault Transport (Light)

Imperial:
Decimator (Medium)
Lambda-class Shuttle (Light)

Privateer:
Pursuer (Medium)
Naboo Yacht (Light) *

All Pilots:
PLY 3000 (Light)
YT-2000 (Light)
YT-1300 (Medium)
YT-2400 (Heavy)
Y-4 "Raptor" (Heavy)
Y-8 Mining Craft (Heavy)


* Availiable in metalic (Neutral), grey/red (Black Sun) and brown (Hutt) finishes.




Light / Medium / Heavy Classifications

This refers, simply, to the number of lots/item spaces on board. At the moment, I think the limit is 75 items. 75 would become the "Light" storage capacity. I don't know how much the new Y-8 can hold, but that would be heavy. Medium would fit somewhere in the middle.

It also refers to how well armed the craft is. A Medium craft, such as a YT-1300, a Nova, or a Decimator, would be armed as they are now. A Y-8 or a YT-2400 however, would have better armour. This would make it slower, and more sluggish to fly...but it'd be more resiliant in a fight. The YT-2400 might also carry an extra slot for fixed weapons under pilot control, as well as turret weapons. A light craft would be faster, and more agile, but in the case of something like the YT-2000, it would only have 1 turret (on top), rather than two.

>>"Slave II" is the MP ship for Privateer, and not the YT-1300. Why? See the next stage to find out

LOL ending your post on that note just throws it all out of whack. Are you another wannbe Solo? Do you want the YT to be like the FS is currently? BAH i say.

Here's what i'd do for upgrade rebalance.

1.) droid commands. fix WO3, rebalance some of them. Also make it so pilot ablities did not reset them.

2.) Give rebels a middle of the road manuverable fighter with 2 missle mounts. Xwing comes to mind, maybe make that 3rd gun a missle tube instead.

3.) Slighly increase countermeasure effictiveness in PvP.

4.) Add space control meta game. Preferbly with a fixed number bases thoughout the galaxy. Capture the station, your faction influences sector and effects planetary travel for those JTL enabled. More stations captured, more influence. Must be overt to capture station. Systemwide message is broadcast to all friendly pilots when factional station is under attack.

5.) Remove PvP decay and HAM wounds to encourage PvP in all sectors to better facilitate the above mentioned.

6.) Overt rules stay in place. You want FP, you must be overt. To destroy/cacpture station, you must be overt.

EDIT:
Oh ya how could i forget...
7.) Make MP ships alot more beefier. These flying in formation with overlapping fields of fire should make even the best of pilots worry.

Message Edited by Ducimus on 04-15-2005 06:58 PM

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Ducimus wrote:
>>"Slave II" is the MP ship for Privateer, and not the YT-1300. Why? See the next stage to find out

LOL ending your post on that note just throws it all out of whack. Are you another wannbe Solo? Do you want the YT to be like the FS is currently? BAH i say.

Here's what i'd do for upgrade rebalance.

1.) droid commands. fix WO3, rebalance some of them. Also make it so pilot ablities did not reset them.

2.) Give rebels a middle of the road manuverable fighter with 2 missle mounts. Xwing comes to mind, maybe make that 3rd gun a missle tube instead.

3.) Slighly increase countermeasure effictiveness in PvP.

4.) Add space control meta game. Preferbly with a fixed number bases thoughout the galaxy. Capture the station, your faction influences sector and effects planetary travel for those JTL enabled. More stations captured, more influence. Must be overt to capture station. Systemwide message is broadcast to all friendly pilots when factional station is under attack.

5.) Remove PvP decay and HAM wounds to encourage PvP in all sectors to better facilitate the above mentioned.

6.) Overt rules stay in place. You want FP, you must be overt. To destroy/cacpture station, you must be overt.

EDIT:
Oh ya how could i forget...
7.) Make MP ships alot more beefier. These flying in formation with overlapping fields of fire should make even the best of pilots worry.

Message Edited by Ducimus on 04-15-2005 06:58 PM

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I'm not a wannabie Solo...if I was, I'd set up a Privateer character, and grind up to Master. Besides, I'm more of a YT-2000 man...I prefer the symetry of that ship. But then, you don't know about that, because you decided to complain before I'd put the second post up!

What I am is a roleplayer. The Nova and Decimator both have great backstories that link them to their faction...but the YT doesn't. Its just there. The YT should have been the Vet Yacht, not the SoroSuub. EVERYONE uses the YT...pirates, police, rebels, imperials...

Maybe its because the Nova and Decimator are non-canon. I just feel that, since the YT- series has been FREQUENTLY attributed with the Rebel Alliance that it should be availiable to all. And also, at the moment, the YT-1300 is the most suitable ship to be a "Landing Craft". I run an RP guild, and I don't think I should have to recruit a Master Privateer pilot into a Rebel guild (which involves finding a Rebel Master Privateer), just so we can use something that kinda looks half-way like it fits the part.

THe numberous YT posts on this forum have made me rather cranky. Ending your post the way you did, it read more like "here is my underlying motive".

It's like, did you ahve to make me read that whole essay just to tell me what i already knew what was coming after that closing remark?

Im in the YT = privateer camp.

Bump.

Don't let a crotchy old bastrd like me cramp your style. Even though the YT bit didnt exactly tickle me you were making a pretty good draft.

Sounds pretty good.

I like the idea of making MP ships available to everyone, staged at multiple levels (Shipwrights will sell more and folks will find stuff they want... both to be different and to aesthetics/favorites).

All Tier 1 pilots: YT-1000 (new design)
All Tier 2 pilots: YT-1300 (existing design)
All Tier 3 pilots: YT-2000 (from XWing Alliance)
All Tier 4 pilots: YT-2400 (Shadows of the Empire)

I definitely like your idea for Slave-II and other MP factional ships.

/drool for the N1

Nice write up, Groovy. I've always wanted to fly an N1.

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Ducimus wrote:
THe numberous YT posts on this forum have made me rather cranky. Ending your post the way you did, it read more like "here is my underlying motive".

It's like, did you ahve to make me read that whole essay just to tell me what i already knew what was coming after that closing remark?

Im in the YT = privateer camp.

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I understand your point...but it just seems to me that the YT-1300 doesn't really fit with the other Privateer ships. The Hutt and Black Sun ships are VERY different to the YT-1300 in style, and purpose. I think that, if Privateer were to have a ship, it should be something that matches with the existing craft. The YT-1300 is the kind of thing used by everyone...not just by "criminals", which is essentially what the ships of the Privateer profession lean towards. Yes, Han Solo was a Smuggler, and he used the YT-1300, but that doesn't make the YT an exclusively "Smuggler" ship. Yes, it has that image...but above all things, the YT-1300 is a trading ship. It was designed and built to ship things from A to B, as quickly as possible, preferably without getting blown up in the process. On the flip-side, the Privateer vessels, as well as the Rebel and Imperial MP ships, are all of an attack variety. They aren't the sorts of craft that "civilians" would fly. You'd actually need to be a pirate/criminal to actually Master Privateer.

My basic point is, the YT-1300 is too civilian a ship to be in a combat profession. Personally, I'd be happier if the YT-1300 didn't exist at all, rather than having it used in such a "perverse" way. The YT-1300 is NOT a ship of war...but the profession it is placed in implies that it is.

Also, if you'd waited to read my second post, you'd have noticed the suggested addition of the YT-2000 and YT-2400. You couldn't very well add them into the game in the Privateer profession, without adding extra ships to the Rebel and Imperial profession...which would be too much. Rather than giving Privateers three MP ships all of their own, I'm giving EVERYONE three ships, plus extras for all professions. Its just fair.

Guess you didn't read my post though - it said to wait until my next post for me to explain.

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groovysplat101 wrote:
"Slave II" is a former police ship, so it certainly fits with CorSec and RSF, but it also found its way into the hands of Boba Fett.

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jimbrown wrote:

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groovysplat101 wrote:
"Slave II" is a former police ship, so it certainly fits with CorSec and RSF, but it also found its way into the hands of Boba Fett.

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i would just like to point out that Slave I was also a police ship that "found its way into the hands of Boba Fett"

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Actually, it found its way into the hands of Jango Fett.

The only reason I pointed that out is because its pertenant - I can't really suggest making the Firespray the replacement for the YT-1300, can I?