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Doesn't SOE make it clear that Beta isn't a "reward" or "leet club" that only "special" people get? Come on folks...it's not about bragging rights ("Nya, Nya, I'm in Beta and you're not"), it's not about seeing stuff before everyone else ("I know something you don't"), or any other petty reason. It's a massive playtesting session! You are there to play the hell out of the game and stretch its limits. Try to break things, try screwy combinations of commands, try anything you can think of to throw a monkey wrench in the works!That way the Devs can getthese these things fixed now and we won't have a repeat of the ground game start up problems.
Beta is a JOB, not a privilage. The rest of us are counting on you!
/rant off
TC-Bria I am trying to do the rebel quest that requires you to kill 4 tie fighters but how can I when NONE are spawning. Can anyone suggest where to find them before I got completely fed up of this stupidity and stop playing?!?!
*Sigh* patience is a virtue I just dont have.
Message Edited by georgi on 10-19-2004 10:29 AM
Um...you do realize Beta is for PLAYTESTING to work out bugs just like this don't you?
So do your job and report it!!!
The rest of us not in Beta are expecting BIG things from this expansion and its your JOB to make sure ALL the bugs are out before it gets released!!
Beta is NOT a "free ride" to play the game before it's released - ITS A JOB!!!!
Doesn't SOE make it clear that Beta isn't a "reward" or "leet club" that only "special" people get? Come on folks...it's not about bragging rights ("Nya, Nya, I'm in Beta and you're not"), it's not about seeing stuff before everyone else ("I know something you don't"), or any other petty reason. It's a massive playtesting session! You are there to play the hell out of the game and stretch its limits. Try to break things, try screwy combinations of commands, try anything you can think of to throw a monkey wrench in the works!That way the Devs can getthese these things fixed now and we won't have a repeat of the ground game start up problems.
Beta is a JOB, not a privilage. The rest of us are counting on you!
/rant off
I really have to say something about that. While it may be our responseability to point out bugs and do practically anything to test out the system, we ARE NOT COMPLETELY responsible for what the finished product is. You make it sound like if the finished gameturns out to benothing more than P.O.S., then its OUR, fault! Please. Grow up and realize that some of the people testing are NOT professionals. Nor do some of us need a second "job" as you put it to slave away at.
You're expecting big things? Try and remember what company your dealing with. Its SOE. Given their current bang up job of SWG, are you really gonna be surprised if JTL sucks? "Itsthe beta testersjob to make sure ALL the bugs are fixed before release"? You must be out ofyour g*ddamn mind. How can u say that when SOE has to put out continous patches to fix a previous patch?! And more to the point, how can you say that when people post every day on the regular forums bugs, issues and problems and nothing really gets done? What makes you think that the same isnt happening to JTL?
Next time you feel like whining because you didnt get your oh-so-needed job, why dont you politely tell the people who did get in to do their best and make it as great of game as they can, instead of barking orders at people and telling them what YOU think they should be doing.
Valuthorax wrote:beta isnt about testing anymoreit is a reward for pre ordering now -- the amount of new players these last few days... all pre ordersso now it is a reward.
In other words, there is no point or need for it?
If everyone thinks and acts like it's just a reward and doesnt understand the actual point of a beta test...for any computer software.....just scrap it?
mikemousy wrote:
yeah but game has gone gold so nowthe testing is over
RandAiden wrote:
/rant on
Just thought the purpose of Beta needed clarification. Here's a typical message I stumble across in these open forums on a daily basis (this is an actualpost):
TC-Bria I am trying to do the rebel quest that requires you to kill 4 tie fighters but how can I when NONE are spawning. Can anyone suggest where to find them before I got completely fed up of this stupidity and stop playing?!?!
*Sigh* patience is a virtue I just dont have.
And my reply:
Um...you do realize Beta is for PLAYTESTING to work out bugs just like this don't you?
So do your job and report it!!!
The rest of us not in Beta are expecting BIG things from this expansion and its your JOB to make sure ALL the bugs are out before it gets released!!
Beta is NOT a "free ride" to play the game before it's released - ITS A JOB!!!!
Doesn't SOE make it clear that Beta isn't a "reward" or "leet club" that only "special" people get? Come on folks...it's not about bragging rights ("Nya, Nya, I'm in Beta and you're not"), it's not about seeing stuff before everyone else ("I know something you don't"), or any other petty reason. It's a massive playtesting session! You are there to play the hell out of the game and stretch its limits. Try to break things, try screwy combinations of commands, try anything you can think of to throw a monkey wrench in the works!That way the Devs can getthese these things fixed now and we won't have a repeat of the ground game start up problems.
Beta is a JOB, not a privilage. The rest of us are counting on you!
/rant off
TOTALLY AGREE!
Beta is the place to change what you don't like, and it doesnt help to get upset, post "JTL sux" and threaten to quit SWG. The idea is to root out bugs and get them addressed. it IS a job.
You don't know how many posts i see in the beta forums of people either saying the game bites, instead of what it is thats not right and offering suggestion (and the DEV are listening on a daily basis)...or people asking if they can keep their charaters and loot, because "they worked so hard to grind them up". Don't people know what a beta test is?
This is not a free demo of the game. The expansion changes every day! A NDA careful example:
Player: XXXX doesnt seem to be right. What if you change XXXX to this?
Dev: Okay, how about this?
Player: Woah! thats too much. Can you scale that back a bit?
Dev: Play this. Does this work out now?
Player: ...a bit more and i think you got it...
Dev: Try it now.
Player: Ah! THAT's what i mean!
What we're seeing is this:
Player: XXXX don't work! This is gonna blow! Aint gonna buy it!
Dev: what don't you like? What would you suggest?
Player: it bad game! Me quit! No devs listen!
Remember people, test...not demo. We can make this what we want if we just try and help the devs...
Baz Pseudopod