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TheDarkness4u
Sun Aug 21, 2005 3:03 am
#1

JTL needs love. How many people still fly regularly?


Looking at the forum alone, there are posts 2-3days old on page 1!


I hope the're not scrapping us because of the lack of interest.



We need some stuff to do. Star destroyers/corvettes are ok.. but i want something like a huge battle.


Think about the final scene in ROTJ. All those ships chasing eachother (not at 50% throttle spinning in circles), ships running into other ships (and take damage/die!), quick dodging and spins to evade enemy fire (not just going straight and taking the hits because trying to take evasive action is so slow).



First of all.. this is a big one.. the physics. There has been alot of talk about how the physics of JTL just arent that great. You can be going 50000000km/h and you'd never know it. .. then you can stop on a dime just by cutting your engines.



How about a planet .. or an asteroid.. or a big ship like the deathstar that we can fly in the cracks of, fly inside... race other people.. chase other people.. or just test our reflexes and have fun. I've said this before, JTL really has no sense of speed; we need a ground to fly over, a huge asteroid field to fly through.. something! I'm really hoping that this new expansion will offer inter atmosphere flight.. but im not holding my breath.


If you've ever flew in other games *coughbattlefield/xwing-tiefighter/BF2-tonameafew cough* you've seen the sense of speed and overall fun factor of the game. Most of the time I play 'other' games just to get in a jet or a ship and fly around and chase people.


Think about it.. how many online flight sims are there? yea.. JTL is looking like the only one to me.


If SOE would take the time and show us some attention, JTL alone could bring in new players. I know that if a great star wars flight sim *WITH RPG ELEMENTS!* came out, i would not mind paying $15/month just for that.



Here's a list of ideas i would like to see:


Big asteroid to fly around in


Kessel Run


inter atmospheric flight


space stations that you dock at and walk around inside for repairs/parts.


smuggling!!!!!!!!!


Vendors aboard ships (perhaps players can shuttle to your ship or fly up and dock with you)


or Vendors aboard space stations


merge all of the JTL servers into 1? seeing as how maybe 5 people from each server are in space at any given time.


tuning/customizing optionsin the pilot skill tree so we can tinker around with a ship just like han solo


npc co pilots thathelp with repairs/turret guns(chewy )


faster turning speeds. cmon, if i want to do a barrel roll, it shouldnt take 3 seconds


ability to use a headset and talk to group members while flying?


more group oriented content ie.. friend distracts enemy fighters while i dock and board a ship and take control over it or just steal some cargo.


races/shooting games/accuracy tests


did i mention smuggling? perhaps you meet up with people in space and pick up some cargo which you can A-deliver or B-steal and be put on the BH terms


ability to land in more places than a starport. If i have a space ship, why should i have to drive across a planet to get to my house.


player cities with garages that you can land/decorate/repair your ship and have it sit in a garage for a fee *and everyone can see your ship*


maybe rewards for exploring space? As of now, if you want to explore space, you'll find yourself running into an invisible wall. whats the point of even trying? there's nothing exciting in space besides stars that you never see, rocks that you run head first into with no damage, and space stations that you cant even dock with.


stats? like accuracy...total kills/deaths.... anything..


ability to mix and match parts. if i have 10 ships and im a master shipwright, why cant i make an x-y-a-b-1300yt-wing by taking my favorite parts from each ship? (im talking about visual parts, not parts like the current system has.)


more pob ships and more storage room inside ships. I would live in my ship if it could hold more than a couple backpacks full of stuff.


I'd really like the ability to own a piece of land and land my ship on it.. and have other players walk inside and check out vendors/decorations.. that would be sooooooooo cool.



Well i'll be done for now.. If JTL had all of these features.. it would be the best game on earth and would make so many swg players happy just because of the sense of STAR WARS being put back into the game.



Chances are that no one that can make a difference will read this, but at least it's input. And hey, this post might be on the main page for a few weeks lol




go ahead and reply with cool features you would like to see. I'm interested in seeing what you guys like.




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jimbrown
Sun Aug 21, 2005 3:14 am
#2






TheDarkness4u wrote:

JTL needs love. How many people still fly regularly?


Looking at the forum alone, there are posts 2-3days old on page 1!


I hope the're not scrapping us because of the lack of interest.



We need some stuff to do. Star destroyers/corvettes are ok.. but i want something like a huge battle.


Think about the final scene in ROTJ. All those ships chasing eachother (not at 50% throttle spinning in circles), ships running into other ships (and take damage/die!), quick dodging and spins to evade enemy fire (not just going straight and taking the hits because trying to take evasive action is so slow).



First of all.. this is a big one.. the physics. There has been alot of talk about how the physics of JTL just arent that great. You can be going 50000000km/h and you'd never know it. .. then you can stop on a dime just by cutting your engines.



How about a planet .. or an asteroid.. or a big ship like the deathstar that we can fly in the cracks of, fly inside... race other people.. chase other people.. or just test our reflexes and have fun. I've said this before, JTL really has no sense of speed; we need a ground to fly over, a huge asteroid field to fly through.. something! I'm really hoping that this new expansion will offer inter atmosphere flight.. but im not holding my breath.


If you've ever flew in other games *coughbattlefield/xwing-tiefighter/BF2-tonameafew cough* you've seen the sense of speed and overall fun factor of the game. Most of the time I play 'other' games just to get in a jet or a ship and fly around and chase people.


Think about it.. how many online flight sims are there? yea.. JTL is looking like the only one to me.


If SOE would take the time and show us some attention, JTL alone could bring in new players. I know that if a great star wars flight sim *WITH RPG ELEMENTS!* came out, i would not mind paying $15/month just for that.



Here's a list of ideas i would like to see:


Big asteroid to fly around in


Kessel Run


inter atmospheric flight


space stations that you dock at and walk around inside for repairs/parts.


smuggling!!!!!!!!!


Vendors aboard ships (perhaps players can shuttle to your ship or fly up and dock with you)


or Vendors aboard space stations


merge all of the JTL servers into 1? seeing as how maybe 5 people from each server are in space at any given time.


tuning/customizing optionsin the pilot skill tree so we can tinker around with a ship just like han solo


npc co pilots thathelp with repairs/turret guns(chewy )


faster turning speeds. cmon, if i want to do a barrel roll, it shouldnt take 3 seconds


ability to use a headset and talk to group members while flying?


more group oriented content ie.. friend distracts enemy fighters while i dock and board a ship and take control over it or just steal some cargo.


races/shooting games/accuracy tests


did i mention smuggling? perhaps you meet up with people in space and pick up some cargo which you can A-deliver or B-steal and be put on the BH terms


ability to land in more places than a starport. If i have a space ship, why should i have to drive across a planet to get to my house.


player cities with garages that you can land/decorate/repair your ship and have it sit in a garage for a fee *and everyone can see your ship*


maybe rewards for exploring space? As of now, if you want to explore space, you'll find yourself running into an invisible wall. whats the point of even trying? there's nothing exciting in space besides stars that you never see, rocks that you run head first into with no damage, and space stations that you cant even dock with.


stats? like accuracy...total kills/deaths.... anything..


ability to mix and match parts. if i have 10 ships and im a master shipwright, why cant i make an x-y-a-b-1300yt-wing by taking my favorite parts from each ship? (im talking about visual parts, not parts like the current system has.)


more pob ships and more storage room inside ships. I would live in my ship if it could hold more than a couple backpacks full of stuff.


I'd really like the ability to own a piece of land and land my ship on it.. and have other players walk inside and check out vendors/decorations.. that would be sooooooooo cool.



Well i'll be done for now.. If JTL had all of these features.. it would be the best game on earth and would make so many swg players happy just because of the sense of STAR WARS being put back into the game.



Chances are that no one that can make a difference will read this, but at least it's input. And hey, this post might be on the main page for a few weeks lol




go ahead and reply with cool features you would like to see. I'm interested in seeing what you guys like.






hey, im gonna post it b4 someone else does becuz its bound to happen... if you make jedi tie into all that right there, you have a decent shot at making it happen -_-



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TheDarkness4u
Sun Aug 21, 2005 3:22 am
#3

lol well.. assuming i'm the oldest living jedi in the game 0_0



how about jedi get.. uh..aiming bonuses? like.. their shots dont have to be quite as dead-on to hit the target..


or.. jedi mind trick npcs to leave you alone.. or to hand over cargo..


better turn/roll speeds for jedi? 0_o i dunno.. but you're right.



I was trying to make the non-jedi part of the game better.. because hey.. almost half the game are non jedi lol



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TheDarkness4u
Sun Aug 21, 2005 3:26 am
#4

got another idea..


people can place faction bases on the ground.. why not in space?


faction bases in space that operate the same way.



take out the turrets/defenders/shields... dock with it, get inside and take out the npcs, get to the control terminal and overload it, or place some bombs.. then get out and watch it blow. THAT would be cool.



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jimbrown
Sun Aug 21, 2005 4:07 am
#5






TheDarkness4u wrote:

got another idea..


people can place faction bases on the ground.. why not in space?


faction bases in space that operate the same way.



take out the turrets/defenders/shields... dock with it, get inside and take out the npcs, get to the control terminal and overload it, or place some bombs.. then get out and watch it blow. THAT would be cool.






oh that one right there is a LOOOOOOONNNNNGGG dead horse. i mean this horse is mostly just bones now, the meat is all decomposed and the eyes have long ago been pecked out. its a great idea really, but its hard to find a way to moderate teh NUMBER of them... so i doubt we'll see it...


and no i dont want jedi to get bonus's in space. ima jedi too, but screw that it aint right >_<


i was joking around when i said relate it to jedi... rofl





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TheDarkness4u
Sun Aug 21, 2005 5:05 am
#6

maybe add bonuses to smuggler and shipwright so jedi are actually at a disadvantage ... even tho i use my jedi in space the most..



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Sbrodj
Sun Aug 21, 2005 5:21 am
#7

Man, i would like to have some more intresting POI's in space, maybe badges and such stuff there. and maybe one POI can be one of those HUGE space battles, u know u cant see a thing cuz of all the smoke and crashing ships. Man, the space battle over Coruscant is the BEST thing in ROTS, MAN i would love to have that. I mean if they are going to put in Mustafar then why not have a HUGE space battle, too bad Mustafar wont have its own space zone .




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Treena_Daal
Sun Aug 21, 2005 9:45 am
#8



TheDarkness4u wrote:
JTL needs love. How many people still fly regularly?
Looking at the forum alone, there are posts 2-3days old on page 1!


That's because this forum is irrelevant. Go to the Pilot forum, we're much more active.

As to your suggestions, some are good, some are not. Bases in space are very bad. Jedi bonuses in space are worse.

Head over to the Pilot forum, get a feel for things there. We've discussed quite a bit of this.
Bass5LH
Sun Aug 28, 2005 2:40 am
#9


I dont know about everyone else, but i am tired of being able to only spend my prestige pointson getting into deep space. If they were to implement some of the things that were mentioned above, make them cost prestige points. Such as buying Imperial/Rebel bases. I realize that this horse died a long time ago as well.

Message Edited by Bass5LH on 08-28-2005 02:43 AM



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Attacca
Sun Aug 28, 2005 7:50 am
#10






TheDarkness4u wrote:

JTL needs love. How many people still fly regularly?


Looking at the forum alone, there are posts 2-3days old on page 1!




Not that you don't have a good point, but - this forum, fortunately, doesn't get much traffic. There isn't a single issue in JTL that isn't better addressed in the Shipwright or Pilot forums, and you'll find both of those get a lot more traffic.





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Imnostanist
Mon Aug 29, 2005 3:48 pm
#11

*bump to keep this subject alive!
jimbrown
Mon Aug 29, 2005 9:25 pm
#12

it died for a reason



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EDMAN3000
Mon Sep 05, 2005 11:30 am
#13

You know, I said almost the exact same thing! I wish we could have a way to customize more effectively and bring crime into the game. Honestly, I think that crime is such a major element of Star Wars that SOE can't afford to leave it out of SWG if they want a good game with lots of customers. If we could talk to a shipwrite, perhaps bringing up a
"collaboration and design" window while making a ship, we could substitute the cockpit of a B-Wing into a Kihratz, and make its shape that of an A-Wing, roughly, while giving it solar panels found on a Jedi fighter or a TIE Interceptor. With a couple of wing-mounted turrets that would be operated by NPC PARTY MEMBERS (!!!) that ship would not only look great, but be a veritable fist of defiance, spitting cannon fire to and fro unto all who might stand in the pilot's way. These NPC's could be hired guns (mercenaries) that would require a weekly payment of some sort, or they might be bound by a life-debt, or perhaps they could just be in your ship, making a business deal or something, or giving information about a bounty at the time that a squadron of pirates engages you.

The smuggler prof should be real, of course. We need imp blockades. We need scum and villainy. We need the spirit of STAR WARS!

And I need to quiet down.



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