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Gom_Kuub wrote:

an npc's ship works exactly like yours or any other human player's starship

it has rear shields and front shields, rear armor and front armor, components with armor, etc.

-when an npc ship you are about to battle is facing toward you and has not engaged you in battle yet, fire 1 shot at it's face to get its attention

-then get on its tail and fire away at it

-if you stay on its tail and are not facing the front of the ship, you will only need to reduce %50 of its armor and shields, saving a lot of capacitor energy and not draining it

imagine looking at a ship's back, and a line splitting it across from side to side; the top half are its front shields and armor, the bottom half are its rear shields and armor

try not tobe on the front part of that line if you are going to be on its tail and shoot

but if you are fighting a ship where you often look at its front, then you should lower its front shields and armor

-Gom

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sory i said %05, i meant 50%

-Gom

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atytula wrote:

This post has newbie written all over it. First off, a player ship can cycle shields from front to back, and I believe some NPCs do this too. Can anyone verify this? So, it is possible to stay on someones tail and still have to get him down to 0% shields before hitting the armor. Also, NPCs take so many more hits then players. It is a very different ball of wax. Now, I do wish that the line separating NPCs and PCs was finer.

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i have killed npcs with only lowering their shields to 50% and dmging their systems using my technique

you cannot cycle through shield sides, only some components themselves

and why can't you verify your theory yourself? i did, so back up your stuff b4 flaming next time

-Gom

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Gom_Kuub wrote:

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atytula wrote:

This post has newbie written all over it. First off, a player ship can cycle shields from front to back, and I believe some NPCs do this too. Can anyone verify this? So, it is possible to stay on someones tail and still have to get him down to 0% shields before hitting the armor. Also, NPCs take so many more hits then players. It is a very different ball of wax. Now, I do wish that the line separating NPCs and PCs was finer.

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i have killed npcs with only lowering their shields to 50% and dmging their systems using my technique

you cannot cycle through shield sides, only some components themselves

and why can't you verify your theory yourself? i did, so back up your stuff b4 flaming next time

-Gom

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its not false information. (edit) Its also assuming the "best case" scenario in which your shots hit where he describes.

he's sighting ship specifications and makes no mention of droid or pilot commands. I haven't seen any AI use them yet, and the AI is retarded anyway...

Of course, that in no way means they wont randomly start doing it once the dev's realise it.

I just hope they try giving the AI some better skills first.

Message Edited by ClevtonRyles on 12-23-2004 07:55 PM

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atytula wrote:

I am not talking about the AI. He said that NPCs are just like Players. That is WRONG. That is all I am saying. PCs are very different then NPCs on how they fight, and to say that they are the same is misleading the player base.

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i said their SHIPS

-Gom

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atytula wrote:

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Gom_Kuub wrote:

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atytula wrote:

This post has newbie written all over it. First off, a player ship can cycle shields from front to back, and I believe some NPCs do this too. Can anyone verify this? So, it is possible to stay on someones tail and still have to get him down to 0% shields before hitting the armor. Also, NPCs take so many more hits then players. It is a very different ball of wax. Now, I do wish that the line separating NPCs and PCs was finer.

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i have killed npcs with only lowering their shields to 50% and dmging their systems using my technique

you cannot cycle through shield sides, only some components themselves

and why can't you verify your theory yourself? i did, so back up your stuff b4 flaming next time

-Gom

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My stuff is backed up. You said that you only need to take out 50% on NPCs (which I never disputed) and that NPCs are the same as PCs, which is WRONG. PCs can cycle there sheilds. Next thing you know, people will be crying nerf because they heard from someone that PCs only need to lose 50% shields to be destroyed. And I wasn't flaming, but I won't sit idly by while someone spouts false information.

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shfire wrote:

I have neverexperienced or heard ofany NPC doing any droid or pilot commands.

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when did i say the words "commands" or "droid" ?

-Gom

They are setup the same, yes. But PC ships are easier (stats wise) to destroy than NPC. And PCs do have the ability to cycle their shields with the special Rebel Droid commands. Not talking about cycling the target... talking about cycling the energy.

But out of curiousity, what sparked you to make this post? Maybe knowing that it would be a bit easier for me reply with understanding.

Message Edited by FuryoftheStars on 12-23-2004 09:13 PM

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Gom_Kuub wrote:

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shfire wrote:

I have never experienced or heard of any NPC doing any droid or pilot commands.

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when did i say the words "commands" or "droid" ?

-Gom

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You didn't. That's what atytula was referring to with the cycling of the shields.