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Thread: Privateers and Faction Can anyone Clarify? CORRESPONDENT?

Crizis
Wed Jun 15, 2005 9:53 am
#1


Most confusing.


Privateer RSF (assume the same counter-problems occur with Privateer Rebel-oriented segment of Privateer)


Would normally go to Dath neutral outpost to go to Kessel or Deep Space?


But if overt, need to go to Endor Imperial station to declare Imperial overt, then to Endor Imperial Claw station to enter Kessel as overt, but as far as I know, cannot enter Deep Space as overt? Is that right?


Most confusing.

Message Edited by Crizis on 06-15-2005 01:54 PM



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Daeges
Wed Jun 15, 2005 10:05 am
#2

as a privateer, you earn prestige (not faction prestige), therefore you can not go overt to deep space. Go to Dath neutral outpost to get to deep space or kessel.



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MyrddinSidhe
Wed Jun 15, 2005 10:07 am
#3

How (where) do you see what your prestige points are?



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Vendrin
Wed Jun 15, 2005 10:16 am
#4

You earn them instead of xp when you kill enemy ships.
MyrddinSidhe
Wed Jun 15, 2005 10:22 am
#5

Instead of XP? So, you only start earning Prestige Points at master?



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JakinIrali
Wed Jun 15, 2005 10:36 am
#6


So what determines your faction standing?


Does prestige work the same way faction does on the ground... meaning if I only kill Reb ships, I'll earn Imp prestige?


If not, what happens when a Privateer goes into deep space? We can attack either faction?

Message Edited by JakinIrali on 06-15-2005 10:36 AM



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RideIlluminati
Wed Jun 15, 2005 10:47 am
#7

Your faction standing is determined by the squadron you are flying with. For example if you do RSF you will be imp aligned, Corsec is Rebel aligned and Smugglers is neutral meaning you can kill either faction in space.


I have actually tried getting around it with my Corsec freelance, he is rebel aligned in space so I made him imp on the ground and then declared imp in space. You would think that I would then be able to attack rebels... not the case and interestingly enough I was getting rebel faction for being overt imp and killing imps.





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JakinIrali
Wed Jun 15, 2005 11:07 am
#8

I wonder what kind of chaos that wreaks with the friend-or-foe system. Did youshow as friendly to other imps? It'd be crazy if you could actually pull double-agent stuff like that. Fly around wearing an imp iff signature and out of nowhere start attacking the unsuspecting pilots.



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Crizis
Wed Jun 15, 2005 1:52 pm
#9


As you can see, it is very confusing. The devs should address this. I'm clear as mud. The one thing that sticks with me from this exchange is that as overt Privateer RSF, I can kill Rebels, get imperial faction points, but get neutral prestige points instead of imperial prestige points, so that then I can not enter Deep Space, because:



  • When I approach an Imperial Space Station, they require imperial/faction prestige points to enter Deep Space - which I have none, because I only earn neutral prestige points

  • When I approach a Neutral Space Station, I can not enter Deep Space because they recognize me as Imperial overt, and will not talk to me

Catch 22. I'm not sure why this is or if its working as intended. The fall out point here is that while I earn Imperial faction points, I earn neutral prestige points. ?!?


Is there a Correspondent in the House?


Message Edited by Crizis on 06-15-2005 01:53 PM



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Management change and credibility is expected & deserved, and really a requirement for me to desire to log in and not have my MMORPG time completely wasted. SWG's mismanagement, ongoing, lacks credibility. I have no desire to log into my toon, attempt to accomplish something, only to find out that my blue zebra, 12th level, with 20 badges, isn't going to be turned into tomorrow's 4th tier yellow monkey, and all the zebra's stuff is no longer of value. Without credibility, its just a duck hunt game that doesn't even keep score of how many shots land on a duck.
Kylania
Wed Jun 15, 2005 2:24 pm
#10



Crizis wrote:

As you can see, it is very confusing. The devs should address this. I'm clear as mud. The one thing that sticks with me from this exchange is that as overt Privateer RSF, I can kill Rebels, get imperial faction points, but get neutral prestige points instead of imperial prestige points, so that then I can not enter Deep Space, because:

  • When I approach an Imperial Space Station, they require imperial/faction prestige points to enter Deep Space - which I have none, because I only earn neutral prestige points
  • When I approach a Neutral Space Station, I can not enter Deep Space because they recognize me as Imperial overt, and will not talk to me

Catch 22. I'm not sure why this is or if its working as intended. The fall out point here is that while I earn Imperial faction points, I earn neutral prestige points. ?!?

Is there a Correspondent in the House?

Message Edited by Crizis on 06-15-2005 01:53 PM





So don't go overt in regular space? I don't really see the problem here. If you're neutral you declare at the Neutral Station in Dath, spend your neutral prestige points to enter DS and become overt when doing so. This flag sticks with you till you've re-deeded your ships. IE, you're Privateer, you go to Kessel and everything's blue to you. You enter DS, declare Rebel, come back to Kessel and Imps are now red to you.

I guess if as a Neutral you're trying to farm FP in regular space but also get the free repairs from Deep Space. Well, can't have both apparently without some effort. If you want faction farming, join a faction.
psikobunny
Wed Jun 15, 2005 2:44 pm
#11


Wow, lots of inaccurate and off topic info here. Let's clarify a couple of things

In Space, there is a difference between being Overt (a declared faction member) and PvP enabled.


When you go to Deep Space as a Freelance pilot, you must pick a side. You will be PvP enabled for that side. You will not be Overt. You will not earn faction points for those kills, and there is no way for a Freelance pilot to get into Deep Space in his own ship as an Overt (this is a known pilot issue since launch, still onthe list).


Prestige- Alliance Pilots earn Rebel Prestige. Imperial Navy Pilots earn Imperial Prestige. Freelance Pilots earn Prestige. All three are different, and there is no way to exchange or earn something other than what you PILOT PROFESSION says you earn.


Freelance alignments- If we define "aligned" as unable to shoot a certain faction's (rebel or imperial) ships, then the only aligned squad is RSF. This is why it is bad for a member of the ground rebels to join the RSF, they will never be able to shoot imperials for faction in space. The fact that SA does the Corvette mission for the rebels means nothing except that the Rebs were on Karrde's good side that day. There is a difference between a squad alignment and which Master missions you get sent to do.


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CrevBelos
Wed Jun 15, 2005 7:04 pm
#12

Well said psiko. Just to add one thing though. I am a freelance pilot, though leaning towards the Imperials. I want to shoot rebs down as well. I can do this, because my brother (an imp pilot) allows me to. All we do is group and when he engages I can engage. So if you want to be able to shoot either rebs or imps as a privateer, you can use grouping to do so.



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TomoRainer
Thu Jun 16, 2005 1:34 am
#13



psikobunny wrote:
Wow, lots of inaccurate and off topic info here. Let's clarify a couple of things
In Space, there is a difference between being Overt (a declared faction member) and PvP enabled.
When you go to Deep Space as a Freelance pilot, you must pick a side. You will be PvP enabled for that side. You will not be Overt. You will not earn faction points for those kills, and there is no way for a Freelance pilot to get into Deep Space in his own ship as an Overt (this is a known pilot issue since launch, still onthe list).
Prestige- Alliance Pilots earn Rebel Prestige. Imperial Navy Pilots earn Imperial Prestige. Freelance Pilots earn Prestige. All three are different, and there is no way to exchange or earn something other than what you PILOT PROFESSION says you earn.
Freelance alignments- If we define "aligned" as unable to shoot a certain faction's (rebel or imperial) ships, then the only aligned squad is RSF. This is why it is bad for a member of the ground rebels to join the RSF, they will never be able to shoot imperials for faction in space. The fact that SA does the Corvette mission for the rebels means nothing except that the Rebs were on Karrde's good side that day. There is a difference between a squad alignment and which Master missions you get sent to do.
Regarding a Correspondent- TomoRainer is the Pilot Correspondent, and posts mainly in the Pilot Forum. He reads and watches here too, but if you have something you want him to see for certain, post in Pilot or send him a PM.





Everything here is correct.

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