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JediNizar2
Thu Dec 16, 2004 2:15 am
#1
CyboredClowned wrote:
When are you folks going to get it right?
Its not about fixing with patches....its about getting the code right from the begining.
FIX DA code...FIX the CODE.
Example:
Who has the best repetition in the gaming buisness for the best code?....that right Blizzard.
We know it and you know.
So you want to get your SWG, EQ and EQ-2 games on track.....I suggest you go buy a WOW game....
wait they are sold out and your going to have to wait.
Order it.
But I have been playing WOW since EQ-2 came out and recently got the SWG expansion JTL.
Also playing EQ-2 and the ease of play between the three, is definitely WOW.
SWG for the past few days isn't playable unless you everytime do a full scan.
Twice I have had to re-install drives and Direct-x....just to get to the login screen...now thats great code?...not.
EQ-2 and SWG in a few days has crashed more often WoW has since going gold.....get that...good code...good game.
Wake-up SOE....theres a new kid in town...and your codes not around.....Everybody loves him...and your codes not around......lol
Cancelling EQ-2.
Will continue to play SWG as my son wants thats....until of course he gets tired of the never-ending grind along with the bugs and lousy code.
It would be nice if you SOE folks got your code right and I wouldnt have to write this kinda of post?
I love u, it's true SOE have problem with their code, with every patch the game become more instabel, with every patch there is a new bug, or an old that appear again.
I personaly recommand, even it's mean to us stoping SWG for a while, that SOE shutdown all the servers, and fix the game for several months. than begin again. but this is impossible for them because they want our loot, the monthly fee
BadDawGe
Thu Dec 16, 2004 2:21 am
#2
Yah thats exactly the talk I'd hear from a blizzard fanboi. That they are so perfect they don't have to patch their games?
Lemme recall Diablo 2 how they postponed one of the patches since there were new games they were working on. They pretty much gave up on D2 and left it in the gutter. I remember I quit playing about 2 or 3 months after they said they were going to release the patch and found out they released it like a year later.
The key to a good game isn't that it is bug free, it is that it has content.. I know SWG doesn't have much of that in the form of quests, but there are some pretty amazing systems. Crafting being one of them, all the other games I've seen are simply point click and your item pops up in your bag. Experimentation and resource quality make a big difference in this game where in other games its all about character skill and a success chance, then you pretty much get the same old product.
I'll tell you what, you go play your WoW and post on your WoW forums where people care about WoW. These are SWG forums where we offer constructive feedback about SWG. You'll play WoW for a while and realize it's a completly different type of MMO with different systems, and when Blizzard decides they are bored with that game and the patches start coming slower and slower, don't come whining to us here in the SWG forums.
And you said you had a son right? What are you a teenage father? I wouldn't expect a grown man to try and rustle up a sh*t storm over a video game. Grow up really, it sickens me to see crap like this.
Lemme recall Diablo 2 how they postponed one of the patches since there were new games they were working on. They pretty much gave up on D2 and left it in the gutter. I remember I quit playing about 2 or 3 months after they said they were going to release the patch and found out they released it like a year later.
The key to a good game isn't that it is bug free, it is that it has content.. I know SWG doesn't have much of that in the form of quests, but there are some pretty amazing systems. Crafting being one of them, all the other games I've seen are simply point click and your item pops up in your bag. Experimentation and resource quality make a big difference in this game where in other games its all about character skill and a success chance, then you pretty much get the same old product.
I'll tell you what, you go play your WoW and post on your WoW forums where people care about WoW. These are SWG forums where we offer constructive feedback about SWG. You'll play WoW for a while and realize it's a completly different type of MMO with different systems, and when Blizzard decides they are bored with that game and the patches start coming slower and slower, don't come whining to us here in the SWG forums.
And you said you had a son right? What are you a teenage father? I wouldn't expect a grown man to try and rustle up a sh*t storm over a video game. Grow up really, it sickens me to see crap like this.
Nuttynoah
Thu Dec 16, 2004 3:07 am
#3
Hi all
i have read the threads on this one,,,,,,,,,,,but going to keep my mouth shut on this one. LOL 
NO CAPTAIN, I SEE NO SHIPS JUST HARDSHIPS
**I once ask a group if thay wanted a hand "as im a creature handler" thier reply was: no thanks we are in a hurry**
Liamo
Thu Dec 16, 2004 3:38 am
#4
CyboredClowned wrote:
When are you folks going to get it right?
Its not about fixing with patches....its about getting the code right from the begining.
FIX DA code...FIX the CODE.
Example:
Who has the best repetition in the gaming buisness for the best code?....that right Blizzard.
We know it and you know.
So you want to get your SWG, EQ and EQ-2 games on track.....I suggest you go buy a WOW game....
wait they are sold out and your going to have to wait.
Order it.
But I have been playing WOW since EQ-2 came out and recently got the SWG expansion JTL.
Also playing EQ-2 and the ease of play between the three, is definitely WOW.
SWG for the past few days isn't playable unless you everytime do a full scan.
Twice I have had to re-install drives and Direct-x....just to get to the login screen...now thats great code?...not.
EQ-2 and SWG in a few days has crashed more often WoW has since going gold.....get that...good code...good game.
Wake-up SOE....theres a new kid in town...and your codes not around.....Everybody loves him...and your codes not around......lol
Cancelling EQ-2.
Will continue to play SWG as my son wants thats....until of course he gets tired of the never-ending grind along with the bugs and lousy code.
It would be nice if you SOE folks got your code right and I wouldnt have to write this kinda of post?
hopefully your son, like mine, still has wonder and awe at the Star Wars universe created here.
Warp1001
Thu Dec 16, 2004 3:39 am
#5
CyboredClowned wrote:
When are you folks going to get it right?
Its not about fixing with patches....its about getting the code right from the begining.
FIX DA code...FIX the CODE.
Example:
Who has the best repetition in the gaming buisness for the best code?....that right Blizzard.
We know it and you know.
So you want to get your SWG, EQ and EQ-2 games on track.....I suggest you go buy a WOW game....
wait they are sold out and your going to have to wait.
Order it.
But I have been playing WOW since EQ-2 came out and recently got the SWG expansion JTL.
Also playing EQ-2 and the ease of play between the three, is definitely WOW.
SWG for the past few days isn't playable unless you everytime do a full scan.
Twice I have had to re-install drives and Direct-x....just to get to the login screen...now thats great code?...not.
EQ-2 and SWG in a few days has crashed more often WoW has since going gold.....get that...good code...good game.
Wake-up SOE....theres a new kid in town...and your codes not around.....Everybody loves him...and your codes not around......lol
Cancelling EQ-2.
Will continue to play SWG as my son wants thats....until of course he gets tired of the never-ending grind along with the bugs and lousy code.
It would be nice if you SOE folks got your code right and I wouldnt have to write this kinda of post?
Well if wow was so stable then how come....
A lot of people on blizzards boards didn't seem to happy about their log in and sever crashes lately either.
A lot of people on blizzards boards didn't seem to happy about their log in and sever crashes lately either.
Let me continue...
If wow is such a perfect game then how come mass amounts of game items and gold are being sold on Ebay already?
If wow is such a perfect game then how come mass amounts of game items and gold are being sold on Ebay already?
Level 40 character accounts on Ebay too?
Oh I know, blizzard will go after them just like Sony does to right?
Do a search on the internet sometime and you will find players already Hacking Wow with duping.
Yep it's the perfect coded game... But not one I want to play.
Sony should take a lesson from them ... NOT.
Ramona_Garcia
Thu Dec 16, 2004 4:30 am
#6
You want a hack and slash, kill and loot game, play WoW. (Unless you are from Europe, in that case, bug them to release their european Version, and make up some nice explanations for why they don't want you to play with your US online friends.)
If you want a game where you can do other things than kill mobs and take their stuff, and which offers you not only entertainer professions, merchants, crafters and politicians in addition to combat profesions, but also allows you to mix and match professions, and switch professions, then stick with SWG.
Gawzeera
Thu Dec 16, 2004 5:08 am
#7
Blizzard is ohh so perfect, thats why so many people who pre-ordered WoW have given up on it because of the 45 minute wait to log into some of the servers. WoW is a cartoonish waste of time that is the same as every other fantasy based RPG, loads of guys running around as female elf's because they are to sad to go out and look at a real womans butt.
a game filled with swords and magic and dragons the same as every other fantasy RPG.
SWG may have its problems but i'm willing to overlook them in order to have blasters, bounty hunters, space combat and yes even the much hated Jedi.
GadonThek
Thu Dec 16, 2004 5:10 am
#8
1. Its nothing to do with the code itself, the SWG devs just need to improve their version control. Most of the time its not new bugs we're seeing, its old ones that have resurfaced. At least know what you're talking about before you go off on a rant.
2. WoW is Diablo Online. Dont get me wrong, Diablo was a fun game....for all of two weeks, but I need more in my games than Kill-Kill-Kill-Level 1, Kill-Kill-Kill-Level 2..............Kill-Kill-Kill-Level 250....*snore*, especially if you're going to pay monthly. God, I shudder to think what the PvP servers will be like, a combination of Blizzard Fanboy-ism AND l33ts? *runs screaming in terror*
2. WoW is Diablo Online. Dont get me wrong, Diablo was a fun game....for all of two weeks, but I need more in my games than Kill-Kill-Kill-Level 1, Kill-Kill-Kill-Level 2..............Kill-Kill-Kill-Level 250....*snore*, especially if you're going to pay monthly. God, I shudder to think what the PvP servers will be like, a combination of Blizzard Fanboy-ism AND l33ts? *runs screaming in terror*
Bugboy321
Thu Dec 16, 2004 10:49 am
#9
GO THEE AND GET YOURSELF A SHRUBBERY!
That is about as good a suggestion as any when us mortals start expressing opinions about programming, and more important, about running a business. How happy would SOE stock holders be with a revenue sucking online game that has been closed down to fix bugs? It wouldn't last past the first quarterly financial statement!
truewildman
Thu Dec 16, 2004 10:51 am
#10
CyboredClowned wrote:
Twice I have had to re-install drives and Direct-x....just to get to the login screen...now thats great code?...not.
Good code, poor computer.
If it was a widespread problem, it'd be a code problem. But it's not. It's isolate. Do some research before you spew crap.
fav
Thu Dec 16, 2004 12:45 pm
#11
CyboredClowned wrote:
When are you folks going to get it right?
Its not about fixing with patches....its about getting the code right from the begining.
FIX DA code...FIX the CODE.
Example:
Who has the best repetition in the gaming buisness for the best code?....that right Blizzard.
We know it and you know.
So you want to get your SWG, EQ and EQ-2 games on track.....I suggest you go buy a WOW game....
wait they are sold out and your going to have to wait.
Order it.
But I have been playing WOW since EQ-2 came out and recently got the SWG expansion JTL.
Also playing EQ-2 and the ease of play between the three, is definitely WOW.
SWG for the past few days isn't playable unless you everytime do a full scan.
Twice I have had to re-install drives and Direct-x....just to get to the login screen...now thats great code?...not.
EQ-2 and SWG in a few days has crashed more often WoW has since going gold.....get that...good code...good game.
Wake-up SOE....theres a new kid in town...and your codes not around.....Everybody loves him...and your codes not around......lol
Cancelling EQ-2.
Will continue to play SWG as my son wants thats....until of course he gets tired of the never-ending grind along with the bugs and lousy code.
It would be nice if you SOE folks got your code right and I wouldnt have to write this kinda of post?
First of all it annoys me when people say "the code is the problem" like they know what they're talking about. They treat code like its some kind of part in a cars engine that has gone bad. Code IS the game. You want the devs to take SWG offline and rebuild it from scratch? You want them to wipe the servers and blow away all your characters so we can "fix the code". Cause that's what your asking for you know? How can you say "don't make patches, fix the code"? What do you think a patch is? Butterscotch candies?? Patches are code too, and they "patch" (imagine that) the buggy code with new code. Yeah, amazing how that all works. Next time, engage brainstem then post a comment on the forum.
Secondly, let's not compare Blizzard to SOE because Blizzard is Blizzard and SOE is SOE. Each company has strengths and weaknesses and Blizzard (while being a very good gaming company) is nowhere close to being the pinacle of the industry. This is Blizzard's FIRSTMMO and they're having just as many stability issues and server problems as anyone else who's ever put out an MMO. You can't even compare the two games fairly since SWG is arguably bigger and more complex than WoW. But either way, lets not pretend that Blizzard somehow got all the "good" programmers and SOE got stuck with the "bad" programmers cause that's not how it works at all. There's a lot of reasons for SWG's poor stabilty including bad planning during the initial design, poor development and testing, poor feedback from users (its our fault too) but none of these make SOE the "loser" of the MMO world. It happens and its to be expected that not every game turns out perfect. Thus they patch it. If you can't deal with it you should probably cancel your account. I hate to suggest that since I feel SWG provides me with enough enjoyment that I can look past occasional problems, but maybe you'd be happier with a game like WoW.
Whatever you decide to do, please don't come in to this board and post the suggestion that Blizzard somehow has it all together and SOE is a bunch of idiots. That's a severly biased opinion and it serves no constructive purpose. And also I'm sure your local community college offers a course on C++ Programming 101 if you'd like to learn what programming is then you may appreciate code and the patching process.
fav
Thu Dec 16, 2004 12:50 pm
#12
You know what, forget what I said about community college. You're obviously not old enough to register since no one with a 6th grade reading level would have such a poor and subjective grasp on the issues surrounding MMOs and general gaming stability. Finish highschool, get a job, and then maybe you'll be able to argue this point intelligently.
Whatever you decide to do, please don't come in to this board and post the suggestion that Blizzard somehow has it all together and SOE is a bunch of idiots. That's a severly biased opinion and it serves no constructive purpose. And also I'm sure your local community college offers a course on C++ Programming 101 if you'd like to learn what programming is then you may appreciate code and the patching process.
CyboredClowned
Thu Dec 16, 2004 1:50 pm
#13
When are you folks going to get it right?
Its not about fixing with patches....its about getting the code right from the begining.
FIX DA code...FIX the CODE.
Example:
Who has the best repetition in the gaming buisness for the best code?....that right Blizzard.
We know it and you know.
So you want to get your SWG, EQ and EQ-2 games on track.....I suggest you go buy a WOW game....
wait they are sold out and your going to have to wait.
Order it.
But I have been playing WOW since EQ-2 came out and recently got the SWG expansion JTL.
Also playing EQ-2 and the ease of play between the three, is definitely WOW.
SWG for the past few days isn't playable unless you everytime do a full scan.
Twice I have had to re-install drives and Direct-x....just to get to the login screen...now thats great code?...not.
EQ-2 and SWG in a few days has crashed more often WoW has since going gold.....get that...good code...good game.
Wake-up SOE....theres a new kid in town...and your codes not around.....Everybody loves him...and your codes not around......lol
Cancelling EQ-2.
Will continue to play SWG as my son wants thats....until of course he gets tired of the never-ending grind along with the bugs and lousy code.
It would be nice if you SOE folks got your code right and I wouldnt have to write this kinda of post?
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