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Thread: YT-1300 Still not soloable?
truewildman wrote:
Glzmo wrote:
truewildman wrote:
ZeeEmperials wrote:
Bullbyte wrote:
AlexDarquan wrote:
Everitt_Cage wrote:
why would it be changed? did you watch the movies?
Notice at the end of a new hope when Han shoots the TIE off luke and spends Vader spinning?
Good one. You know your movies. Something Everitt_Cage does not.
Wookie?
Zactly. There is not one movie reference that shows the YT-1300 in battle with only one person in it.
I sincerely hope they leave it as is. You wanna battle solo? Keep a fighter in your datapad, or redeed one.
Not a chance that a roleplaying smuggler would give up his trusted ship for a starfighter, just because the Empire captured his trusted copilot and gunner (or if he's not online - there is no way a RP smuggler would let a stranger on his ship either, imagine if he was an imperial undercover agent!)...That's what bugs me the most, if we at least had the ability to use /follow on our targets from the gunner's chair and the autopilot tofly to a POI or something while we are not at the helmit would be alright, I guess. But right now, the ship stops if you stand up from the pilot's chair.
The best option would be to allow smugglers only to mount forward lasers/slave the unmanned turrets to fire forward.
Anotheroptionwould be to make the multipassengers ships so maneuverable and fast soa skilledpilot can evade most shots.
Message Edited by Glzmo on 11-03-2004 01:31 AM
Oh, I see your point 100%. The bottom line is that there will be unhappy people if you try to solo in a YT-1300 in PvP (which currently is pretty much the only thing to do after Master). The game mechanics don't allow it.
Forward guns on a brick, solo... /shudder I still hate that thought.
I can see where you are coming from, but AFAIK you can destroy aYT-1300, Nova Cruiser or Decimator in PVP just as quickly as any other master fighter.
I don't really care much about PVP, I just want to roleplay.It's hard to smuggle alone when you can't defend yourself or even run and evade shots,when some NPC ships start shooting at you while alone in your multipassenger ship.
Perhaps they should give master smugglers the ability to slave unmanned turrets to the pilot station or perhaps the ability to jump to lightspeed immediately, something to that extent.
Glzmo wrote:
I can see where you are coming from, but AFAIK you can destroy aYT-1300, Nova Cruiser or Decimator in PVP just as quickly as any other master fighter.
I don't really care much about PVP, I just want to roleplay.It's hard to smuggle alone when you can't defend yourself or even run and evade shots,when some NPC ships start shooting at you while alone in your multipassenger ship.
Perhaps they should give master smugglers the ability to slave unmanned turrets to the pilot station or perhaps the ability to jump to lightspeed immediately, something to that extent.
Cuality wrote:
In Ep 4, someone shot from the turret, whether han or chewie, someone shot from the turret. IN Ep 5, the blaster that came down to mow down the troopers was an anti-personell blaster that han and chewie installed to cover them on the ground for smuggling runs. It would be about as effective at shooting down a ship that a cdef would. In Ep 6, the falcon was fully staffed (watch the scene in which they fly around blowing up fighters) shots are being fired in various directions at the turrets. Also, Lando fired concussion missiles into the death stars reactor.
do remember everyone that these are MULTIPLAYER ships. if you want to be effective, you need more people with you.
Agree, why do people want all the stuff in this game to be solo. I mean if they bring out small cap ships would you want the abilte to be able to pilot and fight in them solo as well?
Tdayiel wrote:this will be VERY brief(class in a min), but there are 2 instances off the top of my head i'm thinking of that prove it had front firing guns. First in New Hope(like was stated) when the TIE is in front of them after they hyperspace and he tries to shoot it down but it's already in front of them. SECOND and this one's big, is when they're in the spaceport I believe in eisley, and the Stormtroopers come in and (i think it's)Chewie pops out that little turret that lowers from the ship and starts firing around the area. so we know of 1 turret, and most likely there was another one identical on the other side of the ship so there ARE front-mounted turrets on the YT-1300 =)God Bless,~Judge~
Did you read the threads above before you posted this? The little turret that pops out while they are on hoth is just a small blaster for anti-personel use. The scene your referring to in ANH isn't proof either because I believe it was the tie fighter that did the shooting. Not the Falcon.
Besides, I don't think it's about whether or not they fired the turrets from the pilot's seat in the movies or not. This is SWG the game. It has to be balanced and there needs to be ships available for groups. The YT is one of them. I admit that I want a YT-1300. I'll probably even fly it solo a bit. But, I don't expect to be able to fire all the turrets while I'm piloting it. As I mentioned above though, I don't think it's too much to ask that a pilot be able to leave the cockpit with the ship on autopilot.
Tdayiel wrote:
this will be VERY brief(class in a min), but there are 2 instances off the top of my head i'm thinking of that prove it had front firing guns. First in New Hope(like was stated) when the TIE is in front of them after they hyperspace and he tries to shoot it down but it's already in front of them. SECOND and this one's big, is when they're in the spaceport I believe in eisley, and the Stormtroopers come in and (i think it's)Chewie pops out that little turret that lowers from the ship and starts firing around the area. so we know of 1 turret, and most likely there was another one identical on the other side of the ship so there ARE front-mounted turrets on the YT-1300 =)
God Bless,
~Judge~
Personally, whether or not it's in the movies, that point is moot.
The main concern is playability. In PvP, the only way you're even going to get a shot off, is surprise attack. The ship cannot dogfight. And, even then, the missiles would suffice.
In PvE, the missiles should suffice as well, but they're generally tougher. And forward guns or not, you'll lose. You need to be able to turret those guns, plain and simple. And it only stands to reason that you cannot turret and pilot at the same time.
The only scenario forward guns would be useable is if you, as a master pilot, want to take on Tier 2 or Tier 1 ships. That = boring.
Lilleth wrote:
So you have to ask Han how he managed it to fix the turrets and fire them from cockpit.
Would he tell you? Hell, I say no
Greetings
Absolutely. He'd have to kill you if he told you about the illegal stuff he did to his ship. "Mods?! What mods?! 
"Message Edited by DertyWerk on 11-03-2004 08:28 AM
DertyWerk wrote:Ok I don't understand why people get soangry when the movies don'tmatch the game. Yes I understand that it needs to stay similar to be starwars but on the other hand this isn't a movie, it's a game, and therefor gameplay should be the most important issue here, not the fact that it dosen't match the movie perfectly. If they are gonna make the yt-1300 so hard to get maybe a single person should be able to fly it and fight with it. After all they had to have done quite a bit of work to get it in the first place. Plus is it really so hard to believe that the same people who make starfighters could also maybe devise some sort of a latch to hold the guns facing forward and then maybe run a couple wires to the front so then can be fired? I don't think so seeing as how we in present day timescan't make star fighters now but I'm sure we could pull off the whole locked turret thing.
Of course someone with the ability to build a spacecraft would also have the ability to lock the turrets forward and make them able to be fired by the pilot. But, leave a couple ships for groups. Solo pilots have all kinds of ships to choose from. Groups have 1 per faction. That's it. Leave it that way.
