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Digito
Tue Nov 30, 2004 3:17 pm
#40
I wouldn't mind seeing it myself. Give it the right cap and the right conversion ratio, and I think it would work.
lovewillkill
Wed Dec 01, 2004 1:18 am
#41
I think being able to trade in Prestige for Force xp is a great idea. For those of you claiming that it's easier to get Prestige Points than weapon/combat xp on the ground, I have one question: just howlong does it takeyou to kill something on land?
It takes me about 20 seconds to kill a Tier 5 bad guy in space, and that gives me what, under 9k Prestige?Farming NPCs on the ground, I can kill about 15k worth of NPCs in ten seconds. And clusters of NPCs are a lot farther apart in space than they are on land. As I recall, when grinding Tier 4 I was averaging around 120k of Pilot xp an hour doing destroy missions. On the ground (I've gotMBH/Master Carb) it takes me twenty minutes to earn 120k of carb xp (plus the 12k of combat xp). Looking at it on a pure points basis, I can earn xp 3 times as fast on the ground as I can in space. And it took me longer to master Imperial Pilot than it did to master Carbines.
However, if the Devs change the system and allow us to convert Prestige, I agree that there would need to be a much lower cap for Prestige, and a suitable conversion rate should be found.
Unless the Devs are purposely refusing to allow Prestige xp to convert to FS xp with the sole intent of encouraging pilots to not forget about the ground game, I see no reason that we shouldn't be able to convert Prestige to FS xp.
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Mafuw
Wed Dec 01, 2004 9:34 am
#42
Good, good... You seem reasonable... You're only one step away from the Dark Side of the Force... Come and join me !
Now let's speak about concrete things... 2 things need to be set, cap and ratio...
Ratio : as explained before, 30:1 would still be almost twice slower than on the ground, but let's say we are not used to max our space grinding ability... So we could have 50:1... Seems reasonable, and it won't ever become the way to powergrind with that ratio...
Cap : many grinders chose to have a dual template, to cap 2 weapons xp, so they can carry 120k potential FS xp... Even more if they chose to cap combat too, but i don't think many do it... A cap big enough to hold 100k xp would be nice, that would give us a 5 mill cap... Assuming master pilot requires 7.5 million, it can't be lower than that...
7.5 million as cap would give 150k FS xp/trip... Seems good, the cap itself is not a big deal, major part of the time spent is grinding, not doing the trip, especially now we have JTL's "instant travel"... 10km in swoop neverkilled anyone 
Now waiting for your advices on that... Of course there will be people above that cap, but after the first conversion they would cap as all the others... And if they don't want to convert it, why would they need their xp for ? They can have enough to master pilot, they don't need more... Oh, yes, exept if they decide to enter Deep Space more than 250 times without killing any ship in between... I feel sorry for them if as master pilot they need it 
Edit : i tried to make nasty paragraphs with underlined titles and all, but i couldn't post it, had an error preventing me from doing it 
Message Edited by Mafuw on 12-01-2004 08:36 AM
truewildman
Wed Dec 01, 2004 10:20 am
#43
Well, the concept is good, but I see only one flaw:
The devs have stated that it is time-based (gated village phases) and the ratio is there because of the average time it would take.
If you add space combat, in order for the design to still take the intended length of time, all other ratios wil have to be lowered.
Remember, the current length of time it takes to grind out the xp is by design.
Mafuw
Wed Dec 01, 2004 11:00 pm
#44
Erf, I don't derstand you, Truewildman...
We already stated that a 30:1 ratio it will be longer to grind in space than on the ground, so with 50:1 it will be even slower...
So why lower all the other ratios ? Even if 50:1 happens to be too fast, you will only change this one, not all the others
Mafuw
Thu Dec 02, 2004 9:21 am
#45
*crosses finger hopping to get an answer from the devs*
Why don't you all give feedback about it, using the feedback option on main page ? (in "support" menu)...
Can add a link to that topic too
Do it guys We can have it, it won't give anyone an unfair advantage, just make the game more fun...
We can have it, it won't give anyone an unfair advantage, just make the game more fun...
truewildman
Thu Dec 02, 2004 9:32 am
#46
Mafuw wrote:
*crosses finger hopping to get an answer from the devs*
Are you hopping because you're doing the pee-pee dance, hoping that you make to the facilities on time?
Mafuw
Mon Dec 13, 2004 7:55 am
#47
One point for you...
Still no idea about if this could be done or not ? I'm away for a while,and i hate having a dialup connection as backup :-X
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