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Thread: Can the freelancers PLEASE get a real Master Ship

FantasticPlastic
Thu Nov 18, 2004 4:23 am
#27

The Rihk is better than the Imperial Master Fighter--it has the same movement stats, 20k more mass, and three weapon mounts.

I'm sure we all feel your pain.

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Maulibaer
Thu Nov 18, 2004 5:27 am
#28






Cry4Dawn wrote:

Yes it wouuld be nice to have a master ship..


HOWEVER all the ships we have are clearly better then the other ships in game.. Come on, the Dune Lizard a level 1 ships, ROCKS all other Factions at level 1 and level 2.. it has dual guns with a massive payload to hold major items. Most players keep the dune lizard till tier 4 when they are forced to upgrade to the tier 4 ship. I think it would be nice, however the tier 4 ship is Equal or better then most master ships.... We have better stuff at lower levels and still have a better ship then most at tier 4.. I have a giant flying tank with 12k damage per shot. Do you really need to compain with that???







Why do you allway bite at us Privateers? And why be you always contra to the other players?


(Are you a secret spy of the devs? )


Why should we not get a MASTER GRADE FIGHTER?


But I think there will come some new ships very soon.


Maybe at X-MAS?


WOULD BE A GOOD GIFT!!!




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Vechaljian
Thu Nov 18, 2004 5:54 am
#29



Road-Kill21 wrote:
Many people are complaining, simple solution:
1. Leave firespray multifaction
2. Make YT-1300 multifaction
3. Gve master Neutral Pilots the YT-2400 and the Black Sun StarViper
Everyone can be happy with that I hope. I figure we already get to fly 3 black sun ships so lets keep with that. And the YT-2400 is an updated version of the 1300, as well as the 2000, and would fit in very nicely into the neutral pilot profession, especially because one of our branchs goes thru the smugglers alliance




I would Prefer the yt2000, But yeah I agree with the rest.
TuskenJedi
Thu Nov 18, 2004 6:19 am
#30

How about...


Slayn and Korpil's V-19 Torrent starfighter forCorsec Aces

MandalMotors' Virago (StarViper) for Smuggler's Alliance Aces

Naboo's N-1 Starfighter for Royal Space Force Aces



and for our Jedi types, why not...




DraconianOne
Thu Nov 18, 2004 6:29 am
#31

I know this is going to sound quite unfair but I'd actually like to see a lot more different types of available ships for privateers, at master and other tiers. The YT-1300 is great, but why not have the YT-2000 and YT-2400 as well. And give us other ships like the Starviper, the skipray blastboat, the Toscan fighter and so on.

My thinking behind this is that it's going to get to a stage where most people are master or near master and will be flying Rihkxyrks, Kimogilas or YT-1300s (privateer wise at any rate). But by adding more ships, it's going to be much more interesting and varied in space rather than seeing the same old ships time after time.

I also agree that there should be more cross faction ships as well. (Actually, for RP reasons, I think there should be more cross Rebel/Privateer ships and that Imps should be restricted to Imp only ships but be given the ability to also fly the lambda shuttles etc. This can be balanced by making some of the imp ships, like TIE Fighters, much cheaper to produce so that there could be a lot more of them around and they'd be much easier to get hold of.)

I would hate to see it get to a stage where no-one is flying the lower tier ships because of the way the customisation works at the moment.



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PanzerGR
Fri Nov 19, 2004 5:58 am
#32






FantasticPlastic wrote:
Does the Imperials' TIE Oppressor qualify as a "Master Fighter"? Check the stats on the Privateer Rihk ships.

You'll find the Rihk has the same maneuverability stats, MORE mass, MORE weapons. Yet you call it a "Bomber" and ask for a Fighter.

If the Rihk is a "Bomber" and the Privateer deserves a "Master Fighter", then the TIE Oppressor is ALSO a Bomber and the Imperials deserve a "Master Fighter" too.

O.






i can OWN Rihk's with both my ixiyen and my dune


it's called SPEED and othe rpeople dont know how to fly worth jack. Those 3 gun mounts dont come in very handy when you cant maneuver good enuff.



I would really like a cool maste rlevel ship..i think the rihk blows. Yes privateers do have some pretty great craft.....but everythign has its disadvantages and advantages. The privateer "fast attack" craft, the ixiyen, ha sless maneuverability rating than the dunelizard, and far less than most TIEs. I love th eixiyen, but it isnt as maneuverable as the name and description makes it out to be.


The rihk is slow as crap and it has a HUGEEEEEEEEEEEE frame. You practically cant miss it. pretty much any TIE is low-profile and hard to hit unless your fast enough to keep upw ith em. The Awing is not an easy target and the X has a great maneuver rating for it.....hell the Xwing has a better maneuverabilityt han the FAST ATTACK Ixiyen does and it has more mass.


Granted the Bwing is slow.....but it has FOUR gunmounts.


The opressor has THREE missle mounts which make it dangerous, a low profile, good speed (albeit a bit lwo on the agility) and the agressor is the same....low profile good speed, plus it has that stupid rear turret which is extremely annoying becaus eit can attack coming and going.



my favorite 2 privateer crafta re the dune and the ixiyen......the rihk is massive and has a lot of firepower......but it is such a large target and so slow that it is realyl worthless. We need a master ship that is somewher ein-between fast and slow and has a more decent profile and balance to it.





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FantasticPlastic
Fri Nov 19, 2004 8:27 am
#33

You're assuming that "other people don't know how to fly worth jack". Which people? ALL of them?

And while I agree that "Those 3 gun mounts dont come in very handy when you cant maneuver good enuff", this doesn't address how useful they are when someone CAN maneuver well enough because they know how to handle their throttle and find the best equipment and the right speeds to use it at.

Two of the best pilots I know fly Rihks, they use three guns, very fast engines and have a good combination of offense and defense. Plus they have exceptional piloting skills regardless of what ship they're in. Heck, one of them went Imperial on her alt and she can out-fly and out-damage me in my Master-level Oppressor in her Tier 3 Interceptor. She's just that good a pilot.

I haven't flown them, but looking at the stats the Tier 4 Rihk seems to have the same movement abilities as my Master-level TIE Oppressor, plus more mass and more weapons. With the right piloting skills, the right engine and the right combination of guns and capacitor, this is obviously a very lethal combination.


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truewildman
Fri Nov 19, 2004 8:38 am
#34






FantasticPlastic wrote:
You're assuming that "other people don't know how to fly worth jack". Which people? ALL of them?

And while I agree that "Those 3 gun mounts dont come in very handy when you cant maneuver good enuff", this doesn't address how useful they are when someone CAN maneuver well enough because they know how to handle their throttle and find the best equipment and the right speeds to use it at.

Two of the best pilots I know fly Rihks, they use three guns, very fast engines and have a good combination of offense and defense. Plus they have exceptional piloting skills regardless of what ship they're in. Heck, one of them went Imperial on her alt and she can out-fly and out-damage me in my Master-level Oppressor in her Tier 3 Interceptor. She's just that good a pilot.

I haven't flown them, but looking at the stats the Tier 4 Rihk seems to have the same movement abilities as my Master-level TIE Oppressor, plus more mass and more weapons. With the right piloting skills, the right engine and the right combination of guns and capacitor, this is obviously a very lethal combination.


O.






From Stratics Chat:


Brekkee: *monthigos* Question: Right now the mass for TIE Interceptors is woefully low. Is there any plans to increase the mass? (heh, this is the last question I wanted them to ask)


Darth_Platypus: The TIE Interceptor is also one of the fastest ships in JTL


Darth_Platypus: The interceptors are balanced to be very fast, and thus very light


Darth_Platypus: So for now, I do not intend to increase the mass on these, because they already have a significant advantage in their speed and handling



We don't have the ships you do. Just face it.






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Flynn_Nomad
Fri Nov 19, 2004 8:48 am
#35

I'd be pissed too.

How does the ship before the YT compare to Rebel and Imperial Master ships?



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truewildman
Fri Nov 19, 2004 8:57 am
#36






Flynn_Nomad wrote:

I'd be pissed too.

How does the ship before the YT compare to Rebel and Imperial Master ships?






That would be the above mentioned Rihkxyrk. It moves better than both the Bwing and the Oppressor. BUT, and that's a big but, They both get the Awing and the Interceptor, which are vastly superior ships.


It doesn't have to be a master ship per se, but I think a comparably maneuverable ship like the Black Sun StarViper isn't too much to ask.


Hell, it can have the same mass and maneuverability as the Interceptor and I'd be happy.



***In fact, don't add one, but replace the Kihraxz or the Ixiyen with the StarViper would be awesome.

Message Edited by truewildman on 11-19-2004 07:59 AM





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EmpireHunter14
Fri Nov 19, 2004 9:06 am
#37






Wyelkoon wrote:



Well, looking at the right in front of you...


Give privateers the Naboo N1 (replica) Cert, The Naboo Yacht Cert, The YT2400 cert, the StarViper cert, and 2 corellian ships (something and a minivette?)


Naboo Privys, when they master, would get 1 use schematics for the N1 and Yacht


Tat privys, when they master, would get 1 use schematics for the YT2400 and StarViper (People will probably get angry about the 2400, so it may just have to be moved up to generic and give it a replacement like the Cast Wing (I know its a rebel gunboat but maybe it could be worked with)


Corellia Privys, when they master, would get their 2 1 use schems for their 2 ships (? and ?, maybe a minivette.) (Someone just mentioned the HLAF 500 or something (highlighting is screwing up on my comp. Maybe that for corellia fighter. Ok, scroll lock got thrown off, its the Corellian HLAF 500)


Presto. All the vareity and specialness youll ever need.

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Message Edited by Wyelkoon on 11-16-2004 10:11 AM



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Wyelkoon
Fri Nov 19, 2004 12:22 pm
#38






EmpireHunter14 wrote:





Wyelkoon wrote:



Well, looking at the right in front of you...


Give privateers the Naboo N1 (replica) Cert, The Naboo Yacht Cert, The YT2400 cert, the StarViper cert, and 2 corellian ships (something and a minivette?)


Naboo Privys, when they master, would get 1 use schematics for the N1 and Yacht


Tat privys, when they master, would get 1 use schematics for the YT2400 and StarViper (People will probably get angry about the 2400, so it may just have to be moved up to generic and give it a replacement like the Cast Wing (I know its a rebel gunboat but maybe it could be worked with)


Corellia Privys, when they master, would get their 2 1 use schems for their 2 ships (? and ?, maybe a minivette.) (Someone just mentioned the HLAF 500 or something (highlighting is screwing up on my comp. Maybe that for corellia fighter. Ok, scroll lock got thrown off, its the Corellian HLAF 500)


Presto. All the vareity and specialness youll ever need.

Message Edited by Wyelkoon on 11-16-2004 10:09 AM


Message Edited by Wyelkoon on 11-16-2004 10:11 AM



*COUGH* SUCKS *COUGH*







What a brillant, informative, wellthoughtout response. Thank you for your great input.

Foxfire1
Sat Nov 20, 2004 1:24 am
#39


Please make us a real ships for the FreeLancer.

These ships your gave us are "Die now, turn later" Flying one of these is like flogging a dead horse. And since you cant get past the tier 4444 mission due to bugs, its Drool for master of a ship that can carry everything but a gun the pilot can shoot. Good grief they could put a machine gun on a model A ford in the 1920s. You dont need to re-invent dentures, but you need to give morebite to thesethese icons. I have noticed more bug fixes and more complaints for the privateers. I wonder who enlightened us with all these great gifts. Its apparent we were the basterd child of the race. Hans Solo would be kicking droids if he was here I bet.


Ok a word of thanks to the dev who work so darn hard,I love your sense of humor, your dedication. And if you happen to see my character I would appeciate you giving me credit for the teir 4444 missionIsuccessfully completed twice and was not allowed to advance.
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