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Thread: Why can't RSF pilots attack Imperial Ships?
Lomier
Fri Dec 17, 2004 3:31 pm
#27
Craxus wrote:
It has to do with your ground faction.
This is inplace so a Rebel on the ground a can't join a neutral faction and kill rebels in space.
OK. So the ground faction is taken into considerationconcerning what types of ships a neutral pilot can attack.Well then in that case everything would seem to be in order as far as the way Corsec pilots are handled.I should be in no danger of ever losing my ability to attack both Rebel and Imperial shipsas long as I stay a neutral ground character.
Message Edited by Lomier on 12-17-2004 02:37 PM
Uther27
Fri Dec 17, 2004 4:56 pm
#28
BT23 - Here's the fix to your dilemma as has been mentioned by others. You need to open up your skill screen. Go to your pilot skills and surrender all of them. Head over to the Smuggler's alliance rectuiter in the back of Mos Eisley cantina and sign up with them. It's nota total loss, you will only have to do the missions and a very minor amount of grinding for xpbecause you get double xp since you've already mastered once. You won't be able to attack Imperial targets until you do so.
While this may not seem "right" from a gameperspective,in game you are still aligned with RSF even though you are not currently "working" for them. That is who trained you and sent you out to work for them. You have to start from the bottom with someone else if you want to work for someone else. Unfortunately, that means dropping all of your skills and earning them again in this game.
Here's something else to know about this game, the manual and the actual game are rarely in synch. This is not your normal game. It is constantly changing and being balanced as they add things to it. While the overall concepts do not change many of the systems do. It pretty much says this in legalese in that EULA you agree to every time you log in. Make sure you print out that same EULA and bring it with if you still decide to talk to your lawyer about this. I've never heard of anyone winning anything from SOE, and it all comes down to you agreeing to that document everytime you sign in.
I could go on, but I think my point has been made.
truewildman
Fri Dec 17, 2004 5:11 pm
#29
Uther27 wrote:
BT23 - Here's the fix to your dilemma as has been mentioned by others. You need to open up your skill screen. Go to your pilot skills and surrender all of them. Head over to the Smuggler's alliance rectuiter in the back of Mos Eisley cantina and sign up with them. It's nota total loss, you will only have to do the missions and a very minor amount of grinding for xpbecause you get double xp since you've already mastered once. You won't be able to attack Imperial targets until you do so.
While this may not seem "right" from a gameperspective,in game you are still aligned with RSF even though you are not currently "working" for them. That is who trained you and sent you out to work for them. You have to start from the bottom with someone else if you want to work for someone else. Unfortunately, that means dropping all of your skills and earning them again in this game.
Here's something else to know about this game, the manual and the actual game are rarely in synch. This is not your normal game. It is constantly changing and being balanced as they add things to it. While the overall concepts do not change many of the systems do. It pretty much says this in legalese in that EULA you agree to every time you log in. Make sure you print out that same EULA and bring it with if you still decide to talk to your lawyer about this. I've never heard of anyone winning anything from SOE, and it all comes down to you agreeing to that document everytime you sign in.
I could go on, but I think my point has been made.
a Minor correction - the Privateer recruiter is Gil Burton in Bestine Hotel, then head to the pilot trainer in the back of ME cantina. 
Also, you can't surrender your pilot skills. You have to see Gil Burton in the Besting Hotel and resigned, then sign back up with him as SA.
Message Edited by truewildman on 12-17-2004 06:12 PM
Zanholo
Fri Dec 17, 2004 6:00 pm
#30
CorSec master, ground neutral that can kill anything here. Didn't we have a mission killing rebels on the way up the tree somewhere? I've blasted so many ships it all blurs together into one giant debris field...
Could swear our first trainer also talked about how we would defend our territory equally against both rebel and imperial intrusion...
Also....the master vette missions don't seem to agree with the SA is free and CorSec is rebel alligned theory....SA MUST kill am imperial covette, while CorSec can CHOOSE which to kill...
From now on, every post I see that says CorSec is rebel alligned, another 100 rebel npc's shall die! So think of the poor rebels before you post that!
FuryoftheStars
Fri Dec 17, 2004 7:05 pm
#31
truewildman wrote:
8T23 wrote:Ok that it just weird, but wrong that RSF is stuck like that. If there is someone who can get a screenshot of the RSF recruitor saying that you cannot attack IMPs, please post it for me to see. I hate to moan and groan and do stuff like this, but I was going by what was published. I could of overlooked what my recruitor said. I wont deny that. But it still is wrong of them to change everything. If they are going to make a profession and state, in publish, about a profession and then add in all thses bumps and turns. Then it should be that way. I am not hear to make enemys or piss people off. I saw something wrong and wanted to voice it. I thank you all for your help. even if it was a need for more females in my life.
Well, just try to keep in mind that you are playing an MMO, which changes constantly. That's the nature of an MMO. You simply cannot expect it to remain the same.
And also a very good reason why you shouldn't quote the manual for things like this.
FuryoftheStars
Fri Dec 17, 2004 7:16 pm
#32
Zanholo wrote:CorSec master, ground neutral that can kill anything here. Didn't we have a mission killing rebels on the way up the tree somewhere? I've blasted so many ships it all blurs together into one giant debris field...Could swear our first trainer also talked about how we would defend our territory equally against both rebel and imperial intrusion...Also....the master vette missions don't seem to agree with the SA is free and CorSec is rebel alligned theory....SA MUST kill am imperial covette, while CorSec can CHOOSE which to kill...From now on, every post I see that says CorSec is rebel alligned, another 100 rebel npc's shall die! So think of the poor rebels before you post that!
Hmm... well, a possible explaination for the SA having no choice but to attack an Imp vette is because the Imps would cause more problems for the smugglers than the Alliance. As for Corsec, as far as I know, they are "officially" neutral, but the Corellian system is supposed to be known for being sympathetic to the rebellion. However, Coronet (the capitol of Corellia?) is Imperial controlled.
8T23
Sat Dec 18, 2004 1:02 am
#33
Look, read the manuel. Tell me what it says. Go ahead, dont speak up unless you tell me what the first 2 lines of the manuel says. And then tell me I cannot attack IMPs, I keep posting it over and over. I am a hired mercenary, loyal to neither fraction. It don't matter who I work for, I just want the money, like all mercenaries. And for the guy yhtat post I need to get laid. Look you go back to your mom and tell her what you just said. That was way uncalled for. Grow up child. I am trying to prove a point here. It doesn't help for imature people , like yourself, to come in here and make a remark like that. All these players here are trying to point different things out to me and trying to cool my engines off. I have no problems with that and I have no problems with continueing on till this can be resolved. If I cannot attack IMPs, becuase I work for RSF, then I should be able to go work for the Smuglers Alliance and CorSec and then be able to fight IMPS. In my research I just did in the game. I hired myself out to the SA and CorSec, I am still unable to attack IMPs. In my profession list, it reads, FREELANCE PILOT, not RSF Pilot. Plus, I am a master pilot. Sure I earned it under RSF, but RSF doesn't control me. Neither does the DEV. THey made it a point, in the manuel, to state, that I am a hired mercenary, then the made it a point, to state in our professions, Freelance Pilot. They went against everything they made and talked about. If you are going to reply, try and see it my way. And then say liek, ok I underatand your point. And I have been searching all over trying to find where it gives the descrpition for each squad for freelance. I cannot find it.
truewildman
Sat Dec 18, 2004 1:11 am
#34
Who's Manuel? Oh, manual.
Maybe you should have listened to your recruiter. Go ahead. Talk to your recruiter. Then tell me you should be able to attack imps as a pilot working for them.
You wanted to be a mercenary? maybe you should have listened to your recruiter and chose the correct path.
I have no sympathy for you. You have absolutely no room to talk, when all the information you needed was right there in text form before you made your decision.
The nice thing is, you can switch to the mercenary branch (SA) and master pilot in half the time because of the post-master pilot bonus you get on your xp.
8T23
Sat Dec 18, 2004 1:13 am
#35
Oh and I just remembered, when I was doing missions for the RSF, alot of missions were actually against the Imperial. The last commander I worked for in RSF, even hint that she hates the Imperials. Naboo is a neutral planet. Just like in the movies, they don't want to go against anyone and just want peace, so they are neutral. My last 2 missions, were for the IMPs, but I was hried by them. Take out 30 rebel fighters, then take out the corvette, which I did. I no longer work for any of them. I can understand that whenI get hired by one of them, I wont be able to attack their ships while I am employed under them, but I am not working for them. I hire my services out to needed pilots trying to make master. Sure I may work for free, but hey. I enjoy flying. I enjoy going up there and helping all pilots. You know how hard it is to find a person like myself, who is willing to go fly with anyone just to help them, no matter what side they are on. I have helped blow up 2 Imperial Corvettes, 1 Rebel Corvette, and numerous IMP and Rebel Gunboats. Let me have my freedom.
Craxus
Sat Dec 18, 2004 1:13 am
#36
8T23 wrote:
Look, read the manuel. Tell me what it says. Go ahead, dont speak up unless you tell me what the first 2 lines of the manuel says. And then tell me I cannot attack IMPs, I keep posting it over and over. I am a hired mercenary, loyal to neither fraction. It don't matter who I work for, I just want the money, like all mercenaries. And for the guy yhtat post I need to get laid. Look you go back to your mom and tell her what you just said. That was way uncalled for. Grow up child. I am trying to prove a point here. It doesn't help for imature people , like yourself, to come in here and make a remark like that. All these players here are trying to point different things out to me and trying to cool my engines off. I have no problems with that and I have no problems with continueing on till this can be resolved. If I cannot attack IMPs, becuase I work for RSF, then I should be able to go work for the Smuglers Alliance and CorSec and then be able to fight IMPS. In my research I just did in the game. I hired myself out to the SA and CorSec, I am still unable to attack IMPs. In my profession list, it reads, FREELANCE PILOT, not RSF Pilot. Plus, I am a master pilot. Sure I earned it under RSF, but RSF doesn't control me. Neither does the DEV. THey made it a point, in the manuel, to state, that I am a hired mercenary, then the made it a point, to state in our professions, Freelance Pilot. They went against everything they made and talked about. If you are going to reply, try and see it my way. And then say liek, ok I underatand your point. And I have been searching all over trying to find where it gives the descrpition for each squad for freelance. I cannot find it.
I don't have a manual 'cause they're stupid
Check this out if you are a "hired mercenary" loyal to neither faction, then why does the Emperor sign your pay checks?
Your right the RSF doesn't control you so drop your skills and go do it agian for corsec or SA.
If you are a "hired" mercenary it'd be pretty stupid to shoot at your bosses employees.
Naboo isn't neutral its the Emperors home planet, and you talk to an Imperial Admiral to get your vette mission.
Message Edited by Craxus on 12-17-2004 01:14 PM
truewildman
Sat Dec 18, 2004 1:19 am
#37
Corellia is more neutral than Naboo, though it is sympathetic to the rebellion. Tat is truly neutral, as it is under control by Jabba, and the Imperials do not wish to step on his toes.
Everything you're saying is just not making sense. Just because your early missions included killing Imps is moot. I had to kill Hutts during Tier 1, but now I am aligned with them. It's called a storyline. Follow it to the end.
Then, you leave off as it stands in the end.
8T23
Sat Dec 18, 2004 1:26 am
#38
Stroy line, whos story line?? Ok lets follow the stroy line. Between Star Wars and Empire Strikes back, the only Jedis are Emperor and Vader. Hmm weird. In SWG there are many people running around as Jedi, but yet the stroyline says that the only 2 Jedis are the Emperor and Vader. Wow. Lets check up on the stroy lines already made. Oh yes, there are people who wrote books before this game came out and oh my, they follow the same stroy line George Lucas set up. And each one of the followed each other to make a Star Wars Unvierse interact with each other and combine knowledge. But yet SWG doesn't follow these storylines. I am A Bounty Hunter and Freelance Pilot, hired out to the highest bidder. I work for no one. I am loyal to no one. Wow I just followed the stroy line. I did exactly what it takes to be a mercenary.
truewildman
Sat Dec 18, 2004 1:31 am
#39
Well, obviously your here to rant, not to have a reasonable discussion. And you're willing to be unreasonable to say whatever you're saying. You're not going to get whatever point across you're trying to, just to let you know. You're blinding yourself. Good day. 
Message Edited by truewildman on 12-17-2004 02:32 PM