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Thread: atmospheric flight , easy!

groovysplat101
Tue Apr 12, 2005 12:35 am
#14



DARTHBAYLOR wrote:
I have seen a thread recently about how some guy on tc or was it back on beta , flew a tie fighter in a planets atmosphere , so it is possible then..........I dont see why they cant code in new version s of land based speeders , jig the graphice to make em look like t16 skyhoppers an the ole reb speeders ( and others hopefully), an have em fly higher and faster then speeder bikes an land speeders , surely this would use practically the same coding they have ingame now , just different graphice and altitude/speeds , but can you imagine , what an addition it would be!?!?! (dreams)................thoughts??







They can do it with Jetpacks...they just up the hight above the ground. Put the "terrain negotiation" up really high, so it flies at a constant high speed over anything, and its sorted.

The T-16 might be tough - thats supposed to roll and climb and stuff. But something like the Airspeeder that Anakin flies in Episode II...


The tough bit would be "landing". They'd need to code in a land/takeoff control, so that the speeder would gain altitiude...else you'd never get close enough to /mount it.



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DARTHBAYLOR
Tue Apr 12, 2005 5:19 am
#15

how about they add say the skyhopper an some small ship/speeders as low alt but slightly higher an faster than speeders/bikes an swoops , so were not talkin atmo flight starfighters , but low alt planet hoppin persnal ships for long distances , more vehicles are desperatly needed , i would love to be able to jump into a t16 / reb speeder cockpit an fly around tatooine at say 20 feet with a bit more speed too , would be so much cooler than biking it , same controls as a speederbike/swoop (use radial menu to call/store vehicle) just a bit more of an aircraft , surely must be easily codeable for them ???




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Docbengal
Tue Apr 12, 2005 7:12 am
#16






padren wrote:
It would be hard to combine atmospheric flights for ships because ships are all armed and the combat system is so entirely different than the ground trying to merge it would be very hard. Though, if it was doable it would make Krayt hunting in a Krayt rather interesting...





I dont even think they need to merge them. Just make weapons disabled while in atmosphere. Call it an imperial order banning all vehicle combat. Solves the issue outright.


If not that, make it so everything is a white con on the ground (like your allies in space are) You shoot something and you get that TING sound but still the look of firing on targets. Would make GCW battles interesting looking without actually doing any damage. I think ppl would go for that. I know I'd sign up to do a few strafing runs for visual effect.





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bmeenan
Tue Apr 12, 2005 7:56 am
#17

Just got to thinking about this and had a thought:

On Hoth in Empire Strikes Back when the Imperials attack, the rebels busted out the T-47 air speeders (aka snow speeders) to take on the Imperial attack. I'm not sure I can think of a single instance where you see starfighters participating in a ground attack in any of the movies. :/

Thinking about this more, I'm all for atmospheric flight, but not so sure the ships we use in space and the ones we use within the atmosphere should be the same.




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Leana_Txorana
Tue Apr 12, 2005 1:34 pm
#18

I dont see why they cant code in new version s of land based speeders

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They can. They CHOSE not to for a number of reasons. One is lag, ships flying by you would add to the amount of data needing to be sent to players. Two, ships are warships, they will want to shoot those on the ground. Bad idea. You could restrict them to not shooting but do you allow ship-to-ship fights but not ship-to-ground? You are basically creating a limit on actions to make the actions possible.


There were other reasons the devs gave early on but it all comes down to the following: The challenges were not worth the effort to implement atmospheric flight at this time.



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imppilot421
Tue Apr 12, 2005 4:27 pm
#19

It could be used to grief as well. Imagine some idiot making passes on a star port firing his lasers at the people loading in to lag them to death. Or some guy continually strafing Coronet just to annoy everyone.
VolvoSsixtyTsix
Tue Apr 12, 2005 8:22 pm
#20

Imppilot...that is a point of flying in atmosphere. I would take pleasure in doing missile lauches all over Theed/Coronet while targeting spammers.



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