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Thread: Devs: Will those under 18 be elligible for the Flash Speeder?

tIme2DiE
Thu Oct 14, 2004 5:10 pm
#14






OdiousEncounter wrote:

I know this has been posted a few times before, but I wanted to post it with a clear subject line.


I don't recall it being mentioned anywhere that pre-order Beta would be restricted to those under 18: Gamestop does not list it in their restrictions section (http://www.gamestop.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=B645466A#ship ), and SOE's site states "[preorders will] receive guaranteed access to the Jump to Lightspeed beta test in October and an exclusive in-game ground vehicle: the Naboo Flash Speeder" (http://starwarsgalaxies.station.sony.com/content.jsp?page=JTL%20Pre-Order%20Available).


I'm not as concerned about the Beta, but this raises questions about the speeder. The preorder box outlines the application process, which can not be completed by those under 18 (There's not a box to check or anything, we've entered our information months ago and the servers bounce us back if our ages are invalid).


The information on the flash speeder reads: "Following the Pre-Order Beta registration process (outlined above) ensures that you will receive your Flash Speeder the Very first time you enter the live Star Wars Galaxies: Jump to Lightspeed (the full version) game." If we're under 18, we have no way to follow the process and ensure that we will receive our speeder.


So, will those under 18 be able to receive the Flash Speeder? Is there anything we can do to ensure this? A developer response would be very much appreciated.






Actually, it does state it, just not in the way you are hoping for. Apparently a player in "good standing" is anyone that does not break the EULA.


The EULA: (specifically look at the first section)



1. Accounts are available only to adults or, in their discretion, their minor child of at least thirteen years of age (for the purposes of this Agreement, a "minor child" is a person of at least thirteen years of age who has not reached the age of majority under the law of the jurisdiction in which he or she resides). If you are a minor child, your parent or guardian must complete the registration process, in which case he or she takes full responsibility for all obligations under this Agreement. By clicking the "I Accept" button, you represent that you are an adult and are accepting this Agreement either on behalf of yourself or your minor child. You may not transfer or share your Account with anyone, except that if you are a parent or guardian, you may permit one minor child to use the Account instead of you (in which case you may not use that Account). You are liable for all activities conducted through the Account, and parents or guardians are liable for the activities of their minor child. Corporations and other entities are not eligible to procure Accounts.


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Polarbear868
Fri Oct 15, 2004 12:59 am
#15

Why won't they answer any questions? Its all players answering other player's questions/



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