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grrr.....Disarm Shot 2--no longer does AE KD. Apparently does AE dmg shot that doesn't do a whole lot of dmg, yet it has the same HAM as if it were KD still.
Hmm, non-master level: PistolMeleeDefense2--does a little more dmg than PMD1, has a higher HAM cost, and STILL does not KD.
And finally PMD1, suffers the same fate as all other KD shots. While you are crying in your beer that your KD got nerfed, we are sitting here stunned that our only truly good shot not only lost KD, but wasn't fixed or adjusted for not having KD. We had an ability adjusted to come in line with our only remaining KD, only it doesn't have KD itself!
We are left with Fanshot, hoping to do around 1100-1200 on a random HAM while the BH got its LLC working finally...to do 11000 dmg per shot. We are simply stunned, betrayed and left casting curses at BaalzeRaph and all his twisted minions.
You thought we were overpowered? Hah! Now just wait to see what happens with Pistoleer, the former measuring stick for overpowered. We are so UNDERpowered now that the other classes are going to look WORSE than they are. You should be calling for us to be fixed soon or EVERY combat class will end with a nerf bat stuck up its....
And we will be sitting here laughing. Sure, there were bad apples trolling the BH boards saying nerf. But not on these boards. We have been concerned with ourselves for quite some time.
Can't wait to see the HAM costs on your LLC in a couple weeks. Or the range mods. Or the dmg nerfs...it will go on and on until the measuring stick is fixed. Otherwise everyone will end up as poorly as we have.
wildcard1973 ,
The problem was, that since DA2 did in fact have a KD, people relied on it rather than being more fully aware that everything else was pretty lame. And since it's gone now..AND the melee knockdown was nerfed , it's harsh. (It's pretty pathetic for a ranged profession to have only onespecial effectand it's melee range)
The result now is that #1 pistoleers dont know how to XP. #2 master pistoleers now have basically these skills: Body shot2, FanShot, and PMD2 on the off-chance they get into melee and want to waste 100+ action for a few seconds of not getting hit..in melee range.
We dont have a ranged knockdown. We dont have panic shot. We dont have any working AOE attacks. We dont have any state effect shots. We dont have any targeted shots better than the marksman tree already has, da1/da2 dont work, BS3<BS2, double tap and stopping shot < fan shot, PBAOE2 doesnt work correctly, PB single is replaced by fan shot, PMD1 was nerfed and still costs 100+ action with a CDEF, PMD2 for reasons we cannot determine, was increased to be MORE espensive than PMD1 (a screw up we think), MTPS still doesnt work, DA2 nerfed and no longer works/useful. (doesnt seem to do aoe damage consistently/at all).
That's why people are mad that DA2 is gone, it was worth having the rest of the skills craptastic for a while when at least at mastery we got something useful. Now, it's back to just having crap.Sure, fan shot is OK Random Ham damage, but give me a break. This doesn't really stand out as a professions "best offering" using broken AR1 DX2s now does it? :/ I know you know most of this, just had to start venting.
I agree with you Jaegen, 100%. I'm just trying to point out that, alot of players (not just pistoleers) should make noise about getting their own professions working correctly before calling for nerfs on others. I know that's waht you've been trying to do, I read alot of the forums.
BH now has attacks that are useless as well, if I'm using a carbine it makes no sense to use any shot other than confusion, because they are all knockdowns and won't work. The LLC while it's been getting alot of press on how the "10K" hits, still requires you to be in melle range to use the specials, requires you to get LLC1 before you even get a special, and only gives a BH mods of +60/+70 speed and accuracy. You say it sucks you have to resort to Marksmen Specials do be able to do anything, I sympathize, when grouping I have to use bodyshot2, because otherwise I'm counterproductive in the group.
Is eye shot overpowered? Not as a special it isn't. As a tier 2 BH special? yes This is something many have tried to get changed, I'd like to see Fast blast be more useful and go to tier 4, Torso shot tier 2, and Eye shot to Master, make Mastering professions worth something. One suggestion I've made is allowing Masters to recieve a special weapon cert for a High damage weapon, maybe even make it a Blast or Stun type weapon, encourage people to Master professions, with good rewards.
Don't you think that the Devs time is better spent fixing whats wrong with a profession, than nerfing the ones people complain about?
Please tell me what the damage range on the new LLCs are?
Also you may complain about your missions but at least you have some. Anyways what do you expect bounty hunter missions to be. Of course they are destroy missions thats what bounty hunters do. Yea you had 2 of your specials put on timers but you still have more skills then any other class. I have more experience in combat skills then a master bounty hunter but I have no chance in a duel against low level bounty hunters.
Again im not saying bounty hunters are bad I just dont understand why this game makes them better then any other combat profession. How many bounty hunters did Han Solo kill? If it keeps up anyone that wants to be decent in PvP will be forced to be a Imp Bounty hunter with3 AT-STs so you can solo krayt dragons.
You say im spreading misimformation prove it.
Also you may complain about your missions but at least you have some.
You know just until today ( and probably still today) If we took a mission there was a 20% chance wed be perma locked out of the game?
Did you know that? Some missions, most BH's would not do them for fear of a bad data feed from the server.
Of course they are destroy missions thats what bounty hunters do.
The question is why you make such a big deal over glofied destroy missions...Why should I not whine that a smuggler can slice terminals and make ten times the money I do?
I will never do that, because I have no idea of your porblems, why do you do it to us?
Yea you had 2 of your specials put on timers but you still have more skills then any other class
We have 11 Specials....
The same as every other combat profession....What profession are you speaking of? We do not have more 
where is you info coming from?
If it keeps up anyone that wants to be decent in PvP will be forced to be a Imp Bounty hunter with3 AT-STs so you can solo krayt dragons.
Or I can be a rifleman like my wife, use a t21 and do 1800 damage a hit at 2.7 second fire rate (we had it time stamped).....Or I could be a commando and do what is it now 10k a hit?
Why are you coming after BH's San? Have you even looked at any of the other classes?
If a BH grifed you with eye shot then I am sorry, but you have no idea of the issues we face...
You say im spreading misimformation prove it.
how many times? Just once?
The number of specials in comparison to the number of pistoleer specials we have 11...I belive they have 10 or 11? I am unsure I have forgoten wha is in the master box.....
If you want to go by usefull specials then....BH 2 Pistoleer 1...I will give you that....
Now prove to me you know about the BH tree in comparison to all else?
KDs
That were nerfed today?
Fire Dots
Yes but health shot two does a bigger more reliable dot...I know, I use it more...Fire takes to long and is not good save to grief people with wounds, which I do not like.
Try looking at the new LLC s before you bring up the T21
Have one, got it damaged slice today...
I hit less at range then my wife does with her t21...
However since the skill is broken, In meelee combat I can hit for more....
Its not AP3...I fail to see how you say its better?
Is it overpowered? Yah =/ I will agree with you there
You have a better pistol then pistoleer
Another popluar myth perpetuated by the broken game, and people who do not research things.
The DX2 has two advanced components, while the Scatter has one...Which in effect the DX2 can be much much better then the scatter...So whats wrong?
The advanced componented for the Dx2 required rare minerals that never spawned, or spawned at a very low grade....Unfortunatly this made ever DX@ crappy save on a few servers....
Todays patch however changed rare metals, so now any mineral can be used, rather then a specific one.
On my server I use my DX2 exclusivly, as it does more damage and has a lower ham, the firing rate is the same...
But my server also had the rare metals....Another Issue which can be pinned on the game being broken and not on the BH's...
What other issues do you have? Its good to actually discuss them
So what are you saying that if all our skills werent broken we could have a chance against Bounty Hunters. Yea maybe thats true but we arnt getting fixed. When I see bounty hunters lossing duels once in a while I will believe that they arent over powered but for now you get all the great skills and mods and very little of the broken stuff the rest of us have to deal with and that pisses me off becuase why should bounty hunters get everything.
So what are you saying that if all our skills werent broken we could have a chance against Bounty Hunters.
Finnaly!
for now you get all the great skills and mods and very little of the broken stuff the rest of us have to deal with and that pisses me off becuase why should bounty hunters get everything.
BH's can sometimes retrive bad missions and be locked out of the game entirly...Do you deal with that?
LLC was broken for a long time, and entire branch of ours was as bad as the commando class...Now they broke it in the other direction (made it to strong) but still have yet to fix the magor issues with it .
Once eye shot is "fixed" youll see BH's pretty much on even ground....
RIght now just because we have 2 skills that work does not meen we have no isssues, the two above are only a small sample of our "screwed" up lines....
What makes the BH good in duels is eye shot, and eye shot alone....That will be taken care of shortly, trust me....
Other then that, most of our skills are as broken/useless as the pistoleer...Really we have 2 perhaps 3 good ones..
The reason I came here was to support the Pistoleers, and in turn the smugglers, because in todays patch every one of their good skills was destroyed....But BH's did not deserve the brunt of it because they are "less" broken..