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hase2 wrote:

i think one of the problems with PvP is that most pilots dont even know the basic maneuvers like maintaining turnrate, barrelrolls, flying sideways, threedimensional movement and awareness.

not to mention wingman and squadron tactics.

they follow the PvE pattern - match speed, turn to blue arrow.

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I agree 100% and those are the ones who end up getting blasted and then hate PVP. The really good pilots..who know a thing or two about flying their ship, are the ones who will lead you on a nice little cat and mouse run through an astroid belt or in and out of a space station. Win or lose those are the pilots who make JTL worth every penny.