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This includes fixing the profession's bugs. Right?
Wonder when the time will come, when only the word "Jedi" makes people mad. Oh-oh, it seems it has came a long ago.
HyprHypo wrote:
Dinchamion wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Jedi pays the same money for the game, so deserves the same service as any other profession. Watch my mouth: nothing more and nothing less, than any other profession.
This includes fixing the profession's bugs. Right?
Wonder when the time will come, when only the word "Jedi" makes people mad. Oh-oh, it seems it has came a long ago.
yes. they pay the same, and they get twice as many characters on the server their jedi is on
You could have the same, just complete the padawan trials... you wouldn't be a Jedi, well, yes, you have a purple bar, which obviously the sign of Devil and all, but only for the cost of 24 skillpoints you can have the second char.
What's so fancy about it? Until the Jedi is full template, the playing opportunities are very-very limited. You are another player who wants to tell how should I play the game I'm paying the same money you do?
Dinchamion wrote:
HyprHypo wrote:
Dinchamion wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Jedi pays the same money for the game, so deserves the same service as any other profession. Watch my mouth: nothing more and nothing less, than any other profession.
This includes fixing the profession's bugs. Right?
Wonder when the time will come, when only the word "Jedi" makes people mad. Oh-oh, it seems it has came a long ago.
yes. they pay the same, and they get twice as many characters on the server their jedi is on
You could have the same, just complete the padawan trials... you wouldn't be a Jedi, well, yes, you have a purple bar, which obviously the sign of Devil and all, but only for the cost of 24 skillpoints you can have the second char.
What's so fancy about it? Until the Jedi is full template, the playing opportunities are very-very limited. You are another player who wants to tell how should I play the game I'm paying the same money you do?
Let me get this straight, SOE forces us all to become the same profession to open a 2nd character. The same over powered profession everyone else is becoming. Sounds like I am being forced to play a certain way just to save some real life money, another Jedi perk that sucks for everyone else.
Let's see, so becoming the FOTM Jedi you can get the best invisibility since counter strike hacks, get a second character (saving you an extra $15 per month), become a master at escaping battle, not to mention winning battles and become the 1 recognized 1.5 alpha class and you get to be your own crafter with minor decay (i think just sabers) only draw back is a longer grind, nothing kash cant fix,and some pvp but who cares if u can go invis or use your 1.5 against the BH.
HyprHypo wrote:Let me get this straight, SOE forces us all to become the same profession to open a 2nd character. The same over powered profession everyone else is becoming. Sounds like I am being forced to play a certain way just to save some real life money, another Jedi perk that sucks for everyone else.
Let's see, so becoming the FOTM Jedi you can get the best invisibility since counter strike hacks, get a second character (saving you an extra $15 per month), become a master at escaping battle, not to mention winning battles and become the 1 recognized 1.5 alpha class and you get to be your own crafter with minor decay (i think just sabers) only draw back is a longer grind, nothing kash cant fix, and some pvp but who cares if u can go invis or use your 1.5 against the BH.
Let me get this straight: SOE forces you sh!t. If you don't want to characters at once (and why you would, since you can freely drop and reget skills), you don't become a Jedi. Noone forces you to do this.
If you want a second character slot, and freely, then you can do the grind, surrender 24 skillpoints and thats all. You have the second character, you are not a Jedi (since you have no skillpoints in any Jedi skill). End of story. You don't get hunted, don't use Force, just lack the 24 skillpoints needed for the unlock.
Secondly, Jedi is not an alpha class practically. 1.5 multiplier goes only with certain templates, and if I don't want to be MDef (and I don't), I'm actually weaker than a fully templated fighter profession. Not mentioning that I need extreme luck or extreme money to be effective in PvP.
So, basically, you get nothing just a looooong and boring grind (yeah, Kash, whatever, another stupid generalizing, not every Jedi grind afk on Kash) and constant fear from anther player ruins a few days of work of yours.
You really better think before post, and more importantly see how things work.
Eskie wrote:
Jedi is not FOTM. BH is. Look at the last Astromech Stats. BH Masters as well as BH dabblers way ahead of any Jedi skill dabblers.
No, I said the FOTM Jedi, im speaking about the FOTM Jedi template. anyway, lemme read the post above you.
HyprHypo wrote:
Dinchamion wrote:
HyprHypo wrote:
Dinchamion wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Jedi pays the same money for the game, so deserves the same service as any other profession. Watch my mouth: nothing more and nothing less, than any other profession.
This includes fixing the profession's bugs. Right?
Wonder when the time will come, when only the word "Jedi" makes people mad. Oh-oh, it seems it has came a long ago.
yes. they pay the same, and they get twice as many characters on the server their jedi is on
You could have the same, just complete the padawan trials... you wouldn't be a Jedi, well, yes, you have a purple bar, which obviously the sign of Devil and all, but only for the cost of 24 skillpoints you can have the second char.
What's so fancy about it? Until the Jedi is full template, the playing opportunities are very-very limited. You are another player who wants to tell how should I play the game I'm paying the same money you do?
Let me get this straight, SOE forces us all to become the same profession to open a 2nd character. The same over powered profession everyone else is becoming. Sounds like I am being forced to play a certain way just to save some real life money, another Jedi perk that sucks for everyone else.
Let's see, so becoming the FOTM Jedi you can get the best invisibility since counter strike hacks, get a second character (saving you an extra $15 per month), become a master at escaping battle, not to mention winning battles and become the 1 recognized 1.5 alpha class and you get to be your own crafter with minor decay (i think just sabers) only draw back is a longer grind, nothing kash cant fix,and some pvp but who cares if u can go invis or use your 1.5 against the BH.
you really have no idea. if you really want that extra character on the same server just do the village grind and then the trials, thats all you need to do you can still have your template and have your other character to do as you wish with him. it's not like the extra character comes once you have finished your jedi template the only thing you have to do is get those FS boxes and do a few quest for the trials which you can follow the guides and do them in no time.
If you are not wiling to put time and effort to get that extra character then it means you don't really need it. The second character is given to jedi because of the lack of things they can do with they friends while they are grinding, due to visibility and since they are so vulnerable to anything.
So please don't complain about a second character when it is also available to you with just some minor tweaks to a template that you can then reproduce on your new character. Most players do the village quests anyways if not for becoming jedi to get the rewards or improve they skills.
Also keep in mind that now it is diferent and that it used to be that the new character was the jedi and it could only be that now you have an option.
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Dinchamion wrote:
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HyprHypo wrote:
Let me get this straight, SOE forces us all to become the same profession to open a 2nd character. The same over powered profession everyone else is becoming. Sounds like I am being forced to play a certain way just to save some real life money, another Jedi perk that sucks for everyone else.
Let's see, so becoming the FOTM Jedi you can get the best invisibility since counter strike hacks, get a second character (saving you an extra $15 per month), become a master at escaping battle, not to mention winning battles and become the 1 recognized 1.5 alpha class and you get to be your own crafter with minor decay (i think just sabers) only draw back is a longer grind, nothing kash cant fix, and some pvp but who cares if u can go invis or use your 1.5 against the BH.
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Let me get this straight: SOE forces you sh!t. If you don't want to characters at once (and why you would, since you can freely drop and reget skills), you don't become a Jedi. Noone forces you to do this.
If you want a second character slot, and freely, then you can do the grind, surrender 24 skillpoints and thats all. You have the second character, you are not a Jedi (since you have no skillpoints in any Jedi skill). End of story. You don't get hunted, don't use Force, just lack the 24 skillpoints needed for the unlock.
Secondly, Jedi is not an alpha class practically. 1.5 multiplier goes only with certain templates, and if I don't want to be MDef (and I don't), I'm actually weaker than a fully templated fighter profession. Not mentioning that I need extreme luck or extreme money to be effective in PvP.
So, basically, you get nothing just a looooong and boring grind (yeah, Kash, whatever, another stupid generalizing, not every Jedi grind afk on Kash) and constant fear from anther player ruins a few days of work of yours.
You really better think before post, and more importantly see how things work.
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If I want to save 15 bucks a month I gotta become a Jedi, if I dont and still want a 2nd character I need to pay. This is a Jedi perk, one that should have been taken away when perma death was removed.
And ruin my character, thanks.
Jedi is the alpha class, according to SOE. Yes some templates might suck but it's still the "alpha class" PS We all need money to be effective in PVP
I didnt say AFK grind, kash groups and dant spin groups will get ya thru Jedi pretty quick, I wouldnt even call it as hard as getting MBH back in the days.
Full temps have nothing to fear, they lose XP when they are done grinding plus they are suppose to be 50% better than their attacker (of course depending on their skill and template)
think before I post? everything i said is true idiot, i think youve trolled here long enough. move along, you lose.
Message Edited by HyprHypo on 09-09-2005 03:14 AM
Dinchamion wrote:
So, basically, you get nothing just a looooong and boring grind (yeah, Kash, whatever, another stupid generalizing, not every Jedi grind afk on Kash) and constant fear from anther player ruins a few days of work of yours.
Well not really, Jedi full temp account can still get 500 bucks and up on ebay, how much did you say you paid for yours again?
Message Edited by HeadRoll on 09-09-2005 05:14 AM
Dinchamion wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong,
OK.You are WRONG.
Owned
HyprHypo wrote:
Eskie wrote:
Jedi is not FOTM. BH is. Look at the last Astromech Stats. BH Masters as well as BH dabblers way ahead of any Jedi skill dabblers.
No, I said the FOTM Jedi, im speaking about the FOTM Jedi template. anyway, lemme read the post above you.
Then I have to inform you that Force Cloak is not part of the FOTM Jedi template. If it was, you wouldnt see MBH / MCM being the FOTM BH because it is not very effective against cloakers. Also consult the Astromech Stats - Powers dabblers (and you can bet 90% of the people dabbling in Powers do it for Cloak) are well below any Enhancer, Defender and Lightsaber dabblers.
FOTM Jedi template was MDef / MLS / Enh 0002 / Heal 3000. This gets ripped apart by MBH / MCM.
Thats why the current FOTM Jedi template is MLS / Def 4040 / Heal 4000 / Enh 3402 (sacrificing a little defense to get a better damage output to force MCMs into healing and also to get Force Run and a Root attack to prevent being kited).
Message Edited by Eskie on 09-09-2005 12:34 PM
Eskie wrote:
HyprHypo wrote:
Eskie wrote:
Jedi is not FOTM. BH is. Look at the last Astromech Stats. BH Masters as well as BH dabblers way ahead of any Jedi skill dabblers.
No, I said the FOTM Jedi, im speaking about the FOTM Jedi template. anyway, lemme read the post above you.
Then I have to inform you that Force Cloak is not part of the FOTM Jedi template. If it would be, you wouldnt see MBH / MCM being the FOTM BH because it is not very effective against cloakers. Also consult the Astromech Stats - Powers dabblers (and you can bet 90% of the people dabbling in Powers do it for Cloak) are well below any Enhancer, Defender and Lightsaber dabblers.
FOTM Jedi template was MDef / MLS / Enh 0002 / Heal 3000. This gets ripped apart by MBH / MCM.
Thats why the current FOTM Jedi template is MLS / Def 4040 / Heal 4000 / Enh 3402.
you can argue the FOTM, not totally the point of my agrument, but im sure it has changed to this since EVERY jedi i have fought lately has had cloak. There are a hell of a lot of cloakers out there, im sure a cloak template is just under the FOTM if not the current fotm
HyprHypo wrote:
Eskie wrote:
HyprHypo wrote:
Eskie wrote:
Jedi is not FOTM. BH is. Look at the last Astromech Stats. BH Masters as well as BH dabblers way ahead of any Jedi skill dabblers.
No, I said the FOTM Jedi, im speaking about the FOTM Jedi template. anyway, lemme read the post above you.
Then I have to inform you that Force Cloak is not part of the FOTM Jedi template. If it would be, you wouldnt see MBH / MCM being the FOTM BH because it is not very effective against cloakers. Also consult the Astromech Stats - Powers dabblers (and you can bet 90% of the people dabbling in Powers do it for Cloak) are well below any Enhancer, Defender and Lightsaber dabblers.
FOTM Jedi template was MDef / MLS / Enh 0002 / Heal 3000. This gets ripped apart by MBH / MCM.
Thats why the current FOTM Jedi template is MLS / Def 4040 / Heal 4000 / Enh 3402.
you can argue the FOTM, not totally the point of my agrument, but im sure it has changed to this since EVERY jedi i have fought lately has had cloak. There are a hell of a lot of cloakers out there, im sure a cloak template is just under the FOTM if not the current fotm
New Jedi tend to choose MPowers nowadays because of the lack of premium pearls and crystals, and MPowers is less viable than MLS with a great saber, but way more viable than MLS with a bad saber. So there are a lot of cloakers, but still less cloakers than dancers.
