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Thread: Tired, worn out, beaten up old gripe the REAL Rebel Flight Helmet...when? Never?
You need to understand the difference between an originalhelmet and the JtL.
The one we have is a pretty simple mesh that replaces whatever your head/hair/face look like with an overall, near the correct size, Rebel flight helmet.
Theoriginal helmets ingame that show some or all of the face need different variations, and several sets of "rules" to account for race and gender. Plus, all the rules for different lighting conditions, and clipping during animations must be accounted for.
Message Edited by NateStarflier on 08-03-2005 01:55 PM
psikobunny wrote:
You need to understand the difference between an original helmet and the JtL.
The one we have is a pretty simple mesh that replaces whatever your head/hair/face look like with an overall, near the correct size, Rebel flight helmet.
The original helmets ingame that show some or all of the face need different variations, and several sets of "rules" to account for race and gender. Plus, all the rules for different lighting conditions, and clipping during animations must be accounted for.
One of these is pretty easy to make, and the other a lot more labor intensive. It's pretty obvious they took the quick and easy path with JtL gear, quantity over quality, and I seriously doubt they'll go back and change things, or make any attempt to be consistent.
Yep, that is absolutely why... I don't think they've ever even tried to hide that fact.
During JTL Beta... we had a bunch of discussions about these helmets with TH.
At that time... he said that the ANH Rebel Helmets (In-game on Rebel Guard NPC's) were being worked on to be a loot item for some time in the future.
So, I suppose the good news is that they do consider it viable to do... but they haven't gone and done it (And that was a while ago now...).
The only thing they've added as head-wear with an open face since the game shipped (Correct me if I'm wrong) is the hooded cloaks.
I too think that it's a shame... while I understand the technical difficulties in implimenting such things... I believe these are things worth the efforts.
I still expect them to dish out some of these things in a future GCW Expainsion.
- Omadda Szool
Kauri
May the force be with you.
But there are more important things to add and fix i'm afraid. It would make my day if they snuck this in sometime in the near future, however
In a thread I posted in the GCW Forums, I suggested in addition to the TRUE Rebel Pilot Helmet the following:
* Make the Rebel Flightsuits looser fitting. They weren't wearing spandex!
* Add gear to the Rebel Flightsuits (there were boxes and kits carried on every Rebel Pilot in the movies).
* Make the yellow-ish visor lowerable or raised while equipped. Sort of the same way with the Collector's Edition Goggles, with a radial menu. Also a UI command line to raise or lower the visors, so it can be done on the fly for a player.
* Customizable Rebel Pilot Helmet decorations. There was a wide variety of decorations applied by each pilot. Take the Starship Texture Kits and Paint Kits as an excellent means of customization. The Texture Kits to allow different designs and the paint kits for the coloring.
"If they can be fooled, they can be killed."
psikobunny wrote:
You need to understand the difference between an originalhelmet and the JtL.
The one we have is a pretty simple mesh that replaces whatever your head/hair/face look like with an overall, near the correct size, Rebel flight helmet.
Theoriginal helmets ingame that show some or all of the face need different variations, and several sets of "rules" to account for race and gender. Plus, all the rules for different lighting conditions, and clipping during animations must be accounted for.
One of these is pretty easy to make, and the other a lot more labor intensive. It's pretty obvious they took the quick and easy path with JtL gear, quantity over quality, and I seriously doubt they'll go back and change things, or make any attempt to be consistent.
And we are paying them how much each month for sub-standard "easy" work??
Come on Devs - put aside those other "periphery" projects (like Image Designer tents, chefs hats, etc)and give us the REAL Star Wars content webought this game for!
Yoeman wrote:
The fact of the matter is, as much as people would like to have this helmet .. its highly unlikely we will ever see it. I mean, we have the endor helm ingame and coded and yet for some odd reason we can no longer get the reward. You really think they are going to add a whole new helmet when they arent even using what they have?
LOL
Please stop upsetting me with logic!
We want the helmets! *covers ears with hands* We want the helmets!
Hehe, seriously though... to this day, no one seems to have figured out why they took those ROTJ helmets out of circulation. It's not like they were a rare loot drop... they were a blasted reward during the rebel theme park.
I'm gonna get back on that case.
*Pulls out magnifying glass and Sherlock Holmes hat*
(Okay, I guess I'm ready for logic again)
- Omadda Szool
Kauri
May the force be with you.
The special thing with the Alliance is the various types of flightsuits and helmets seen in the movies. Probably get a set of the special _-Wing flightsuits at the appropriate box. Random thoughts:
* Generic flightsuit and TRUE Rebel helmet at Novice.
* The TRUE X-Wing flightsuit at 3xxx.
* The A-Wing flightsuit and helmet at 4xxx
* The B-Wing flightsuit and helmet at Ace.
Warmaker01 wrote:
My opinion: A complete, specific set of flight gear should be issued to all JTL Pilots as soon as they take up a squadron.
The special thing with the Alliance is the various types of flightsuits and helmets seen in the movies. Probably get a set of the special _-Wing flightsuits at the appropriate box. Random thoughts:
* Generic flightsuit and TRUE Rebel helmet at Novice.
* The TRUE X-Wing flightsuit at 3xxx.
* The A-Wing flightsuit and helmet at 4xxx
* The B-Wing flightsuit and helmet at Ace.
Absolutely! Don't make the REAL Rebel Flight helmet any kind of "reward" or "loot". Issue it straight off!!! I mean really, when did Luke have to "loot" his?? - - it was ISSUED to him!
Message Edited by RandAiden on 08-05-2005 09:17 PM