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Thread: Powerlevelling in JTL
chessdemon
Thu Mar 31, 2005 3:59 pm
#14
psikobunny wrote:I am of the help by teaching school of thought myself. I enjoy teaching people how to be good gunners, how to be good wingmen, how to use different specials best. I'm glad one bad experience hasnt soured you on flying Chess, you have the better attitude about it than your friend it seems, but I hope you two work it out.One thing the showoff aces forget, is that others dont learn well from watching you unless you are telling them what and why you're doing what you do. Most of my training flights end up with my hands cramping from typing more than from flying.One of the nicest things about JtL is that each pilot profession is a story. The story is your own, so its good to care about how it gets told. You really want to go back to a trainer and say (figuratively) I sat 100m from the escort target while my companions blasted all foes for us. Neither do I. You got it right, and I wish you well.
Thanks, psikobunny (love the name, by the by). Nope, hasn't soured me on flying, I find flying to be a lot of fun. It's also one area where I can wear my uniform (my flight suit, even bought black gloves and boots for it) and feel like a true soldier doing her duty for the Empire, without having to worry about having Rebels jump me and kill my unarmored buns--on the ground, that is, in space is another story of course, but then I can fight back in my armored and shielded ship. As a roleplayer, that's very important to me, even if no one else sees me sporting my black duds with the Empire's insignia, I add to my own immersion factor. I even take it off before going back into towns, I'm off-duty then, no disgracing the uniform by going to a cantina wearing it. This Lt. may get drunk and rowdy off duty, but not in uniform.
And no, if it'd been my mission, I think I might've actually aborted it. It would've stopped being *my* acomplishment if I was sitting back watching them go to town--again if we were all fighting together I'd've had no problem, sure, take on the big guys to help me as long as it's not me sitting on my hands, and I can maybe even help you in the process, or so I hope. I know my limitations--they aren't quite so bad that I need someone to level me. My story, good word for it, would've been pretty crappy then.
Washell
Fri Apr 01, 2005 12:59 am
#15
Thatis a reward item, but no doubt failing helped to get filler components
padren wrote:
If I didn't fail as many times as I did I doubt I would have looted those 2.6k shields that fit on my fighter.
padren
Fri Apr 01, 2005 2:07 am
#16
Washell wrote:That is a reward item, but no doubt failing helped to get filler components
padren wrote:
If I didn't fail as many times as I did I doubt I would have looted those 2.6k shields that fit on my fighter.
Oh, I didn't realize that - I never know where half the stuff in my inventory comes from. Just a concern - is it possible to get a reward item, drop the skill box, then get that mission over again and keep getting the rewards? I hope not...
Washell
Fri Apr 01, 2005 2:29 am
#17
You can't drop single boxes, it's all or nothing. I'm working on my 8th badge now, got 7 of those shields, 2 of them RE'd. One of them is 2550/2550 with 15.89 regen, low drain/low mass. Very nice to have.
chessdemon
Fri Apr 01, 2005 8:27 am
#18
Thanks, Padren. Gonna take me some time to digest all that info, thanks for it all
If I can't figure some of it out I'll probably ask everybody...droids and being able to tell a timer wave from a count wave are definitely still mostly a mystery to me...
I definitely have a lot to learn, and I love learning new things, it's a joy, not a burden to me, something not everybody understands. As for my friend, yep, he's more than a little hung up on 'the grind'. That was part of what he was saying that night in fact, that the grind to get to master pilot sucks...he says the same thing about grinding Teras Kasi with his alt. Me, while I do have times like last night when I shock myself, got my swoop taken out from under me by a Nightsister on Dath, and here I am surrounded by ten Rancors of various size, plus six NS, me fully buffed (doc and entertainer) and in comp armor, with my knuckler--figured TKM or no, I was dead, honestly think I should've been, but I beat them, got a little banged up but no cloner visit--the 'grind' was in a lot of ways more fun than reaching master. I had something to strive for, I could see my abilities improving, when I could meditate for the first time it was a whole new experience, ditto powerboost, ditto learning when to use headshots versus legshots, ditto learning how to dizzy things so they stay down and apply bunches of states to keep them from getting me in return. That's part of the reason I was on Dath last night anyway, working on unlocking my first FS tree--the 'Force Sensitive grind' is another chance to develop in new ways, see what else I can do! *giggle* Yep, I may just love this 'grind' that everybody says sucks.
Getting off the JTL subject, so let's move it back (*screech*)...I'd definitely rather take a few months getting to master pilot than go up in a few days while not really knowing how to fly. Sure I'm gonna fall on my face a lot, I have...then I get right back in my TIE and start again. Failing sometimes teaches you more than succeeding, and I'm quite sure succeeding every time without effort teaches you very little. Recently (well, close to a month ago, I've gotten better since then) surprised an entertainer in a cantina after I'd crashed several times with a 10K tip after she got rid of the 1000 battle fatigue I'd worked up from crashing. Hey, she deserved it, entertainers need love
Must remember sometime after crashing to leave the wounds where they are--after ridding myself of BF--and go to a hospital, yeah I can meditate the wounds away, but medics need XP too...
I definitely have a lot to learn, and I love learning new things, it's a joy, not a burden to me, something not everybody understands. As for my friend, yep, he's more than a little hung up on 'the grind'. That was part of what he was saying that night in fact, that the grind to get to master pilot sucks...he says the same thing about grinding Teras Kasi with his alt. Me, while I do have times like last night when I shock myself, got my swoop taken out from under me by a Nightsister on Dath, and here I am surrounded by ten Rancors of various size, plus six NS, me fully buffed (doc and entertainer) and in comp armor, with my knuckler--figured TKM or no, I was dead, honestly think I should've been, but I beat them, got a little banged up but no cloner visit--the 'grind' was in a lot of ways more fun than reaching master. I had something to strive for, I could see my abilities improving, when I could meditate for the first time it was a whole new experience, ditto powerboost, ditto learning when to use headshots versus legshots, ditto learning how to dizzy things so they stay down and apply bunches of states to keep them from getting me in return. That's part of the reason I was on Dath last night anyway, working on unlocking my first FS tree--the 'Force Sensitive grind' is another chance to develop in new ways, see what else I can do! *giggle* Yep, I may just love this 'grind' that everybody says sucks.
Getting off the JTL subject, so let's move it back (*screech*)...I'd definitely rather take a few months getting to master pilot than go up in a few days while not really knowing how to fly. Sure I'm gonna fall on my face a lot, I have...then I get right back in my TIE and start again. Failing sometimes teaches you more than succeeding, and I'm quite sure succeeding every time without effort teaches you very little. Recently (well, close to a month ago, I've gotten better since then) surprised an entertainer in a cantina after I'd crashed several times with a 10K tip after she got rid of the 1000 battle fatigue I'd worked up from crashing. Hey, she deserved it, entertainers need love
chessdemon
Fri Apr 01, 2005 8:29 am
#19
Washell wrote:You can't drop single boxes, it's all or nothing. I'm working on my 8th badge now, got 7 of those shields, 2 of them RE'd. One of them is 2550/2550 with 15.89 regen, low drain/low mass. Very nice to have.
Something to look forward to...those shields sound fantastic
PixellJ
Fri Apr 01, 2005 8:51 am
#20
You are being too proactive. If they were true friends they'd come over to your house and do your flying for you too.
VemaGara
Fri Apr 01, 2005 10:47 am
#21
Unless you are regrinding pilot, power-leveling is the wrong way to go. I won't go into the exact reasons. The first one is the only one that matters: it's all time in the saddle, darlin. I've learned many hard lessons, and only because I know how to handle my fighter in many conditions. That's experience. Real experience, not just boxes and numbers.
You did the right thing. That twit gave you tons of BS because he likes an easy game. There's the quick and empty way, or the hard but rewarding way. When you put "ACE" above your head, it will be because you earned it, and that's a grand thing.
You did the right thing. That twit gave you tons of BS because he likes an easy game. There's the quick and empty way, or the hard but rewarding way. When you put "ACE" above your head, it will be because you earned it, and that's a grand thing.
chessdemon
Fri Apr 01, 2005 11:02 am
#22
VemaGara wrote:
Unless you are regrinding pilot, power-leveling is the wrong way to go. I won't go into the exact reasons. The first one is the only one that matters: it's all time in the saddle, darlin. I've learned many hard lessons, and only because I know how to handle my fighter in many conditions. That's experience. Real experience, not just boxes and numbers.
You did the right thing. That twit gave you tons of BS because he likes an easy game. There's the quick and empty way, or the hard but rewarding way. When you put "ACE" above your head, it will be because you earned it, and that's a grand thing.
What I think, too
Heck, even if I do regrind pilot, I think I'd prefer to really do it myself. Which might be a possibility, if I reach an RP moment where the Empire's goals and mine don't coincide...going back up the trees as a neutral pilot or even *gasp* a Rebel might happen.
LordOfTheSithVI
Fri Apr 01, 2005 11:19 am
#23
Well, if you ever need another wingman that is also low level and wants to get to Ace let me know, I'm currently 1111 stationed in Bestine. That way we can both learn together :-) if you are intrested my ingame is Iraus Leirum.
Ghost-Raven
Fri Apr 01, 2005 12:02 pm
#24
A bunch of top ace Pilots here on Bloodfin started a training non guild academy of flying , thus teaching a pilot some good basics ..astromech and how to use it combat techniques and on hands non contact dogfights...a valuble lesson to learn when dealing with stronger opponennts.. alowing the pilot to develop at thier own pace and learn tricks to overcome difficult missions...we train and we instruct .. i always try tell the piolot im helping how to address the issue at hand what to look for how to prepare for un ex pected events and How to Survive an impossible scenario...
Narreem0884
Fri Apr 01, 2005 12:18 pm
#25
Powerleveling ruins any skill you might have had otherwise. I once spent 6 minutes on the last part of a mission dodging 9 - 12 TIEs on a half-effective engine with no blasters. I know I would never had been able to do that if I had powerleveled. Granted, I died shortly after I beat the mission but it was still a really good feeling to know that my busted-a** ship survived for that long.
chessdemon
Sat Apr 02, 2005 10:28 am
#26
Narreem0884 wrote:Powerleveling ruins any skill you might have had otherwise. I once spent 6 minutes on the last part of a mission dodging 9 - 12 TIEs on a half-effective engine with no blasters. I know I would never had been able to do that if I had powerleveled. Granted, I died shortly after I beat the mission but it was still a really good feeling to know that my busted-a** ship survived for that long.
Ain't that a good feeling? To be able to look at something like that--pyrric victory maybe, but still a victory--and say, 'This is something I could never have done before.' I LOVE that feeling, it's what makes learning a joy for me.