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Naquiel wrote:

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Vicotnik wrote:

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Naquiel wrote:

lets see the first pic of the radar was set at 2048, the next pic was set at 8192(wich forces everything to be in the middle,

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Oh, and another thing: Get in the damn game and test the radar some. THAT IS NOT HOW IT WORKS. The center is what is directly in front of you. Stand still anywhere within 3-4k of the space station in Corellia. Turn your radar settings to the lowest one (so that the station will be out of range), turn towards the space station and gradually increase the range. You will quite obviously notice that when the station pops into range on the radar, it will be in the center. THE RANGE DOES NOT WORK THE WAY YOU BELIEVE IT DOES. If you're at least trying to prove my EVIDENCE wrong, go take your own damn pictures. Don't just make slanderous accusations.

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I do have the game and i do know how it works, by you changing the radar range you in fact forced the station to be in the middle of the screen when in fact the station would of been in section b, So in fact you lied to prove your point. So now you keep saying that im wrong, when in fact you knew i was right and you had to change the radar settings to make it look i was wrong, to me that is just wrong, you doing this shows that you will go at nothing to cheat and lie to get what you want and deserves no further debate from me.

So again good day.

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OMG!!! Log into the game and do what I just wrote. Step by step. YOU WILL SEE THAT YOU ARE WRONG. Ask anyone else in this or the pilot forum how the radar works, I dare you. Come on. Do it.

The fact is just about as clear as anything can ever be: You don't have a single clue on how to work the radar in JTL. None at all. By changing the range of the radar, you do just that: You change the range of the radar. That space station is 4k+ meters out there, if the radar worked as you said, and if you then set the range to 8k the station dot should not be in the center, it should be just at the frontal armor HP bar. (since that would equal about the middle of the range). Stop making baseless accusations, stop being so damn juvenile and make with the proof if you are going to accuse people of faking screenshots. You are not right here, you have never been right here. Ask anyone else in these forums, start a thread on how the radar works and you will see the replies. Do it, I dare ya. If not: Good riddence!

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Vicotnik wrote:

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Naquiel wrote:

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Vicotnik wrote:

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Naquiel wrote:

lets see the first pic of the radar was set at 2048, the next pic was set at 8192(wich forces everything to be in the middle,

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Oh, and another thing: Get in the damn game and test the radar some. THAT IS NOT HOW IT WORKS. The center is what is directly in front of you. Stand still anywhere within 3-4k of the space station in Corellia. Turn your radar settings to the lowest one (so that the station will be out of range), turn towards the space station and gradually increase the range. You will quite obviously notice that when the station pops into range on the radar, it will be in the center. THE RANGE DOES NOT WORK THE WAY YOU BELIEVE IT DOES. If you're at least trying to prove my EVIDENCE wrong, go take your own damn pictures. Don't just make slanderous accusations.

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I do have the game and i do know how it works, by you changing the radar range you in fact forced the station to be in the middle of the screen when in fact the station would of been in section b, So in fact you lied to prove your point. So now you keep saying that im wrong, when in fact you knew i was right and you had to change the radar settings to make it look i was wrong, to me that is just wrong, you doing this shows that you will go at nothing to cheat and lie to get what you want and deserves no further debate from me.

So again good day.

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OMG!!! Log into the game and do what I just wrote. Step by step. YOU WILL SEE THAT YOU ARE WRONG. Ask anyone else in this or the pilot forum how the radar works, I dare you. Come on. Do it.

The fact is just about as clear as anything can ever be: You don't have a single clue on how to work the radar in JTL. None at all. By changing the range of the radar, you do just that: You change the range of the radar. That space station is 4k+ meters out there, if the radar worked as you said, and if you then set the range to 8k the station dot should not be in the center, it should be just at the frontal armor HP bar. (since that would equal about the middle of the range). Stop making baseless accusations, stop being so damn juvenile and make with the proof if you are going to accuse people of faking screenshots. You are not right here, you have never been right here. Ask anyone else in these forums, start a thread on how the radar works and you will see the replies. Do it, I dare ya. If not: Good riddence!

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No i was right, and all you did was monkey with the radar to say i was wrong just to make you look like you where right,but you know you where wrong when you did the test. So dont come hear saying you right when you lied. So im ending this right now saying that this debate is over.

I will debate when both side give there views in a fair manner, but once a person cheats to make them self look right, then there is no point to continue debating when we know there is a lier.

So again, good day. This is my last post on this subject, and no matter how much you keep posting with different reasons why you kept changing the radar setting its not going to help. You lied plain and simple.

Message Edited by Naquiel on 11-04-2004 02:43 PM

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Naquiel wrote:
No i was right, and all you did was monkey with the radar to say i was wrong just to make you look like you where right,but you know you where wrong when you did the test. So dont come hear saying you right when you lied. So im ending this right now saying that this debate is over.

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SpaceCrazy wrote:
There are several problems with having a PVE mission in PVP territory from both sides of the situation. For those just trying to do the mission and get the master box, the problems are obvious.

As a 4-4-4-4 pilot, you'll have to spend a few hours, from the reports I've seen, in the PVP zone trying to find NPC spawns to finish the mission. During that time, players can and will attack. After a month or two, this could make it close to impossible to become a master with a ton of people in the zone. And of course, the people just trying to do the mission will call any player who attacks a griefer, because they don't want to PVP at that point in time.

On the other side are the innocent PVP'ers. These are the players who do not want to grief anyone, they just want to have fun in combat with another player. There won't be any way to determine who is looking to PVP and who is trying to do the mission. So these innocent players will be called a "griefer" when that is the furthest thing from their minds.

Both these types of players should hate the fact that this PVE mission requires you to go into a PVP zone. The mission pilots because it's preventing them from completing their mission, and the PVP'ers because they will be accused of being something they are not. Both types will lose some, if not all, of the "fun factor" of playing because of this.

The only type who should like it are the griefers, and we all know they exist and will be there looking to screw up someone else's fun. This will be "legalized" griefing and they will love it.

This really needs to be changed soon before players get frustrated at having to spend hours and days trying to complete this mission because other players kill them. And before the honest PVP'ers get fed up with being labelled a griefer.

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