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Thread: Voice Chat for JTLS

blaisedinsd
Mon Jun 28, 2004 2:42 pm
#144

Start your own thread Mando.


Nobody agrees with you.


Of course it is possible, what an ignorant statement. Continuing to post over and over and over when no one agrees with you is making it all about you. Grow up and get your own thread.
MandalorianWarrior99
Mon Jun 28, 2004 2:44 pm
#145

Its MANDAL!!!! and nobody wants to Accept the Facts!!!!



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MandalorianWarrior99
Mon Jun 28, 2004 2:47 pm
#146

And i have my own thread of Good Ideas, That are based on Things simular to what we have already... to help the community....

*NOT something that will shift a Whole New State Of Development* Plus look at planet Side See how good there doing? Not good, since (they have VoiceChat).... (GET IT?)



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MandalorianWarrior99
Mon Jun 28, 2004 2:52 pm
#147

yeah, dont reply now?



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Xeranx
Mon Jun 28, 2004 3:00 pm
#148






MandalorianWarrior99 wrote:

And stop speaking as if they were going to release JTL VOiceChat tommorow.... Get any Dev in here and he would Address the problems with the VC.... ok? so stop Tlaking like its going to be added....







If anyone is acting like they're going to release voice chat tomorrow that would be you. There are certain things about this game that people will be bothered about that may have a lot of people speaking out, but the way your ideas jump ship several times and how you constantly come across like a spoiled child not getting what they want I'm almost afraid to continue on in this post.


So far we know that for some reason or another you don't want voice chat. That's perfectly fine. You're more than welcome to not want something, but at the same token we are allowed to want what we want.


We're asking for voice chat in space. There are plenty of people that use voice chat with the ground game. I have the ability to do so and sometimes do, but I am very interested in roleplay which is contrary to your opposition to your point that roleplay will be destroyed on the ground with voice chat implemented.


Main this is there are those of us who can't type very fast. I am one of those people and I already know I'll be terrible in space combat now. Having to type out messages or warnings will get me shot up very quickly and I'd be a sitting duck out there. What having voice chat does for me is allow me to work on my piloting skills. It will be my skills that determine how well I do in space. It won't be how fast I can hit F4 or F9 while typing "can I get a heal".






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blaisedinsd
Mon Jun 28, 2004 3:00 pm
#149

Well go stay in your own thread. This thread is all about you because, since you started posting in it, every post is either you over and over, or someone responding to you. The original poster seems to have given up arguing with you.


If your ideas are so great then let other people agree with you and expand on your ideas and have a constructive thread. You have ruined this thread and after a couple of days of reading your stuff, and wathcing you hijack this tread, and seeing that no one agrees with or supports you, I decided to try your tactics on you.
MandalorianWarrior99
Mon Jun 28, 2004 3:09 pm
#150

Thats all you guys could come up with in the last 10-20 minutes??? Im sick of this Spoiled Kid crap, ok? I love the Idea, in space i do! but i want to see a dev post on this topic, cause it seems so illogical to add it to StarWarsGalaxis, and if you go back to some of my Former Posts You would know!

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Other species,

Other Genders,

Wasting Dev Time On New Development,

Wasting Dev Time On Old Development,

Causing Lag,

People Would all Go Human For Chat Based RP...

People would lose touch in RolePlaying

Emotes would be Useless,

Comm messages would be Useless,

And many more elements to the Game....

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Im sure the devs have already thought about this and Dropped Development on it, who knows making there own type if i may think so, BUT DONT EXPECT IT ON RELEASE!!!!



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MandalorianWarrior99
Mon Jun 28, 2004 3:10 pm
#151

In order to Truly Do something right... and understanding the The whole Idea in Development you have to ACCEPT the FACTS



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MandalorianWarrior99
Mon Jun 28, 2004 3:11 pm
#152

PS: remember where planet side landed in... (the trash)



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Number-1-Commando
Mon Jun 28, 2004 3:41 pm
#153






MandalorianWarrior99 wrote:

THE POINT IS, THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE PLACED INTO THE GAME!!! GET A DEV IN HERE TO COMMENT....

Every ones going Crazy about how cool this is, when im trying to Explain The Con's That keep it outa leage for SWG







Ok, let's analyze this....


Intergrated Voice Chat


Pro's
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- To be able to communicate easier with your wingmen
- Eliminates the need for all three (or more)3rd party programs
- Makes the game more immersive, by using a headset you can feel like you are in the movies
- SOE has done it before for a twitched base MMORPG, and could do it again if needed


Con's (as toldby Mandal)
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- Species and/or genders would sound the same by language or voice
- JTL is a MMORPG, and should not be like any other twitched game



Key Points
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"Space is a dangeous place", this was exclaimed by a dev of SWG. I for one, would like to slide on a sleek headset, and converse a battle plan with my elite squad of wingmates while in space. It would provide the user more of a "hands-free" environment, that would allow the player to focus both hands on controlling the craft, other than trying to give orders by typing via keyboard.


Voice chat is the only way to effectively give commands while in space. However the ground game, does not need this addition, since it is not twitched base. We, the supporters of this addition, has developed and molded the shape of this inclusion.


- Voice chatshould ONLY be in space


The reason behind "space only", would be this is not your basic MMORPG. "Jump to Lightspeed" is a "twitch based" genre. In other words, it's not your typical "turn based" or "click and button spam". The ground game would remain the same, the addition will not effect the ground game.


- Voice chat ONLY in your group


"group only" would reduce lag, and would makeonegrouproom's maximum limit of twenty per group, which is the current max.


- Instanced servers for voice chat


The devs have stated the text based servers are seperate from world servers, i don't see voice chat servers being any different. An Instanced server to handle only voice chat would decrease the servers load, enabling the players that choose not to use voice chat not to get extra lag.


- Space has less to render


The ground game has textures and lighting glore, the space game however has less of this. Since the space game has less to render the players using voice chat would not lag as much as one would believe.


- Implementing a mute and/or on and off switch for voice chat


Implementing the ability to give choice to the user, is crucial. 56k users might not want to use voice chat, and we are aware of this. Included in this proposal, we would like to included a mute button for inappropriate users. Also, we propose an on and off switch for voice chat, allowing the user that has either a lesser broadband connection, or 56k the ability to turn off voice chat.


- Typing will always be default


We understand and feel that typing will always be needed. Voice chat will only be a secondary option for those that want to communicate easier. typing via keyboard would stay in JTL for those that either do not wish to use voice chat, or those that can not.


Conclusion
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We want SWG/JTL to be entertaining and fun ! This addition is nothing more than an addition to the game, and will not take away or subtract any of the future game (JTL)and current game (SWG)features. The supporters and I love this game, and wish to continue playing the "StarWars" saga, which we all know and love. I hope all of u consider this, and support us in this proposal.


Your support is needed, thank you .




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blaisedinsd
Mon Jun 28, 2004 3:44 pm
#154


Other species,


Your the only one who has some obscure roleplying issue with this.


Other Genders,


Voice Chat is optional, who has a problem with cross gender avatars?I don't.

Voice does not have a negative effect on roleplaying and would only enhance it. Roleplaying is about imagination, not VR


Wasting Dev Time On New Development,

Wasting Dev Time On Old Development,


This is a legitimate issue, if this is your gripe say "I would rather the devs focus on this" make your point in one post and move on. I am not sure why you say it like this though, I can only assume you mean Voice Chat would take resources away from other development.



Causing Lag,


This is a subjective technical issue. There seems to be ways to avoid icreasing lag.



People Would all Go Human For Chat Based RP...


???? Makes no sense????? You would have to give up being an alien because you would not be able to sound like an Alien? Same issue as Species/ Gender.



People would lose touch in RolePlaying


Baseless and irrational. I have not seen one person agree with you on this point. Same issue as Species/Gender/Human


Emotes would be Useless,


Subjective. I disagree, voice would not replace text or emotes.


Comm messages would be Useless,


Not sure what you mean by this but voice would be a specialized app and not replace anything.Voice is mainly desired because of the twitch space gameplay and the desire to communicate hands free.


And many more elements to the Game....


The Devs were saying at E3 that they were not going to support Voice because they felt voice was better done by 3rd party software. I disagree with this view along with several others in this forum and think voice would be best if it was integrated in to JTLS.
MandalorianWarrior99
Mon Jun 28, 2004 4:14 pm
#155

Have you read the New News letter? at all? THey are finishing it up and Polishing it for release, wanna add a component to Make them spend less time on more ships? or make them finish 1 thing, unlike the release of SWG.... (PS: I STILL HAVENT HEARD ANTHING TO CHANGE MY MIND ON BASICLY SPECIES CHAT>>> AND THIS WILL NOT BE IMPLEMENTED INTO THE GAME SO GO FIND A 3RD PARTY VOICE SYSTEM AWHILE......



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MandalorianWarrior99
Mon Jun 28, 2004 4:18 pm
#156

Most of what you said Commando, was Common sense....Meaning everything but less is on Ground to render better in space because of less Lighting Effects ETC+ but some systems such as VoiceChat Tend to get Interupted by certain Interfaces and tend to in this case *break up* like say someone has really bad lag on ground and has a little bit in space... You STILL WOULD HAVE TO HEAR THEIR VOICE BEING *BREAKING UP* kinda like a Cell phone does now.... SO in sense Lag does accure in a Certain Point of View as a Problem to VoiceChat....



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