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Thread: FIRE SPRAY : Devs your ruining continuty (again).. Proof the Firespray is rare and extinct..

GankByEwoks
Sat Oct 23, 2004 4:31 pm
#1



First things first..


I am a Bounty Hunter, I love this profession and as much as I like for Bounty Hunters to get as much cool things as possible, I personally side with Star Wars Continuty over the Bounty Hunter Community and the Developers over this issue. Because the reality is if you continue to butcher continuty andStarwars lorethen why even call this gameStar Wars, sometimes fun needs to take a backseat to continuty or it aint Starwars..


This information is taken straight from Star Wars Databanks at www.starwars.com. The Official Website for Starwars. In short, this is the # 1 source of information for EVERYTHING Starwars, updated byGeorge Lucas's staff. So what your about to read is LAW, the things mentioned are not rumor or up for speculation. Period.


Here goes..


Height:
21.5 meters long


Manufacturer:
Kuat Systems Engineering

Type:
pursuit vessel

Weapon:
Laser cannons, concealed projectile launchers, ion cannons, tractor beam

Affiliation:
Bounty Hunter

Associations:
Fett, Boba
Fett, Jango

For all its deadliness and stealth, the Slave I is an antiquated craft of a type rarely seen plying the modern spacelanes. Both Jango and Boba Fett staved off its obsolescence by constantly rebuilding, customizing and updating the ship's many features.

What began life as a Kuat Systems Engineering limited edition Firespray-class ship is now a dedicated pursuit craft worthy of the galaxy's best bounty hunter. Aside from its clearly visible twin blaster cannons, the ship also has numerous weapons hidden away. Concealed in its hull are a turret-mounted tractor beam projector, a pair of proton torpedo launchers, concussion missile tubes, and a powerful ion cannon.


After Fett's apparent death in the Sarlacc pit, the Alliance seized the Slave I and impounded it on the planet Grakouine. As the galaxy was busy turning itself inside out, transforming from Empire to New Republic, the Slave I was promptly forgotten. Using a variety of fronts, a clandestine Fett legally reclaimed the Slave I by purchasing it. As he was refitting the vessel, he used a sleek replacement ship that he dubbed the Slave II.


So enough to debate, make the Fire Spray a NPC ship used only by the main man, Boba Fett. I once again , hope this doesnt upset anyone, even though it will..I would like to see Bounty Hunters get a ship that can be only used by them, but for the love of Starwars, STOP screwing with continuty to do things that are going tobring in money for SOE. On that same note, Haden Blackman needs to be fired,he was sent in by Lucas to make sure that SOE aheres to George Lucas vision of Star Wars and since this game has come out has basically ruined all things Star Wars whichis why the devs are constantly scratching there heads how can we make this game more Star warsy .. Start paying attention to continuty and it will be !


- Gank By Ewoks

Message Edited by GankByEwoks on 10-23-2004 04:34 PM

Crazyguy111
Sat Oct 23, 2004 4:33 pm
#2

limited and rarely seen don't mean only one. However - You shouldn't worry too much you need 8 different loot parts and a buttload of credits and resources to craft one.



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PlayeroftheDay
Sat Oct 23, 2004 4:36 pm
#3

This ship is very rare, I've never seen one in SpaceBeta. I imagine it will be as hard to get as a full set of Mandalorian Armor, making about as common as a Limited Edition car you'd see at a car show.
Dronayus
Sat Oct 23, 2004 4:37 pm
#4

how many freak'n times can players not read dev post? So quick to bash them yet dont read a damnword they say. They plainly stated they will not be following continuity with JTL a thousands times over. The Firespray is in the game, get over it.





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groovysplat101
Sat Oct 23, 2004 4:39 pm
#5

http://starwarsgalaxies.station.sony.com/expansions_ships_Firespray.jsp


Read the writing about it. It pretty much covers what's going on. The "limited" range of the Firespray is because only prototypes were created. They were destroyed...hence the limitedness.


Years later, an increased company financial stability and a renewed interest in expanding their offerings has driven KSE to search for a relatively inexpensive way to re-enter the starship market. Toward this end, KSE has pulled the Firespray tooling out of mothballs and set up an assembly line. Production is underway but is relatively limited in scope as Kuat Systems Engineering tests the waters for their product.


If there was ever going to be a Firespray availiable in-game, the Devs definately picked a darn good way of writing it in. I don't care what canon/EU says...well done to the devs on their write-in. Its reasonable, realistic, and fits with the Star Wars feel. Go Devs!



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WolfofWar
Sat Oct 23, 2004 4:41 pm
#6

actually no, Firespray isnt even really that rare at all. They were a prototype, yes, over 20 years ago before the Battle of Yavin. Boba Fett has the original KSE Firespray-Class Patrol and Attack Ship. But understand that KSE later on came back with the Firespray, a new model, after the battle of Yavin.

"...for many years, the slave 1 was the only surviving firespray, although KSE eventually revived the line around the time of the battle of Yavin." -SW: essential guide to Vehicles and Vessels

sorry, its not so rare.

Take to note though that the New KSE Firespray is different then the original Firespray prototype.
MadcowwithSARS
Sat Oct 23, 2004 4:42 pm
#7

my reply is you have to have continuity in order to ruin it. since we havnt established any so far why stay on continuity. we have 100s of jedi, speeders that go barely 20kph and planets that are only 15km wide and flat. take this for what it is a side game for SOE while they run evercrack2 the real money maker they want to support.



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Toguro
Sat Oct 23, 2004 4:44 pm
#8

yea, the KSE firespray was a prototype patrol police vehicle, only a few were ever made. jango stole one and destroyed the hanger the other prototypes were in when he was escaping from a prison. the Slave I became the only firespray in existance and has been ever since.

of corse devs threw continuity out the window a while ago, so i guess they can do what they want. oh goody now people can make boba fett clones, a BH with mando armor and a firespray.

KaardeShaarke
Sat Oct 23, 2004 4:44 pm
#9




The only LAW, or "canon," in the Star Wars universe is what you seen on the screen. The movies are canon, and *everything else* is pure conjecture. Lucas himself has stated this a number of times, most notably when replying to the fans' outrage at the destruction of the well-established Jaster Mereel history of Boba Fett upon the release of Episode II. He or his staff approve (and mostly it's the staff - do you think hehas the time or the inclination to reviewevery single Star Wars item that's released?)all of the Expanded Universe stuff, and they're usually real good about preserving both the established and implied timelines, but fact is that EU stuff is still *not* considered canon and can be changed or superceded at any time by other EUmaterial or by new on-screen information.


Henceforth, the argument presented by several EU novels that the Firespray vessels are still in use by various people, pirates, smugglers, and law enforcement entities is equally as valid as the information you've called up from the SW site. Much of thematerialon that siteis EU, much of it is canon, and a good portion of it falls somewhere in between by combining EU info with canon info to present a more complete writeup.

groovysplat101
Sat Oct 23, 2004 4:53 pm
#10






Dronayus wrote:

how many freak'n times can players not read dev post? So quick to bash them yet dont read a damnword they say. They plainly stated they will not be following continuity with JTL a thousands times over. The Firespray is in the game, get over it.








I don't think continuity matters in SWG or JTL anyway. In fact, the quest for continuity is the biggest "bug" in Galaxies at the moment. If we were to forget about continuity, and stop getting worked up when its not there, this would be much more fun. This is a game with the "feel" of Star Wars. MMO's should be allowed to run their course, and write their own story. The Devs have created a fun Star Wars game. The only reason its set now (during the original trilogy) is so that its accessable to as many people as possible. If it had been set at the end of EU, where there is not yet a future, it would have sucked for the people who've only seen the movies...they'd be getting chucked in at the deep end, and might feel that they can't play the game without having read masses of EU. Thats also the reason we're getting bits from the prequel episodes coming in. The less involved Star Wars fans will see the Battle Droids and think "Hey, I know what that is!". That's why the AT-ST is a faction pet. It could quite easily have been a special type of Trooper instead, or a tank, or something. But its not. Its the AT-ST, because a lot of people will recognise it as "the chicken thing from Endor". They might not know the name, but they'll recognise it. Thats why Jedi are in the game. People know what the Jedi are.

Some would call it selfish marketing. They're trying to get in as many people to come and play this game, by making it as appealing as possible. Of course they are. But also, they're catering for a wide market. Think of who they've got to cater for...they have Star Wars "fans" - people who've seen and liked the movie, who've played a few games and enjoyed them, etc. They've got Star Wars "fanatics" - people (like me) who read around Star Wars, learning how things work, soaking up EU for the extra details to the story, and so forth. They've got roleplayers from online gaming, who are just looking for their next MMO buzz. There are a lot of people in this game. Some are more bothered about continuity than others. For most, the fact that this is Star Wars is good enough. I'm one of those people. Those of you who are desperate to find the next saga of the Star Wars story...sorry, I think you're looking in the wrong place. SWG lets you tell your own story. If you want someone else to create the story for you, buy Republic Commando, or whatever. Do action A, to bring about event B, in order to complete the mission, and have movie clip C build up the story a little bit for you. The idea of SWG is that you take your character, and create your own personal story, within the confines of the game. There's continuity in some bits and pieces to bind things together, and tie it in with the "real" Star Wars universe, but at the end of the day, Star Wars Galaxies has as much relevance with regards to EU as the fan fic I handed in to my English teacher as a piece of coursework.

The prime objective of Star Wars Galaxies is to create an MMORPG that is fun for the players, and is set in a Star Wars universe. Creating that environment for roleplaying and fun is all the devs can do...we have to do the rest ourselves. As soon as they start closing in the universe, to channel us along a set storyline, they destroy the freedom that an MMO requires.

The devs have done their part in creating Star Wars Galaxies. Quit moaning, and do yours.




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groovysplat101
Sat Oct 23, 2004 4:58 pm
#11






WolfofWar wrote:
actually no, Firespray isnt even really that rare at all. They were a prototype, yes, over 20 years ago before the Battle of Yavin. Boba Fett has the original KSE Firespray-Class Patrol and Attack Ship. But understand that KSE later on came back with the Firespray, a new model, after the battle of Yavin.

"...for many years, the slave 1 was the only surviving firespray, although KSE eventually revived the line around the time of the battle of Yavin." -SW: essential guide to Vehicles and Vessels

sorry, its not so rare.

Take to note though that the New KSE Firespray is different then the original Firespray prototype.




Yup. I've been comparing pictures, and taking many notes.

The new Firespray IS different. Its smaller, one-person, and more rounded. Take a look at the cockpit, for example. Its about the same size as the cockpit on an A-Wing...it just faces a different direction. Compare that to what we saw of the inside of the cockpit in Episode II. Look at the proportions of Jango's Slave I, compared to SWG's.


In my opinion, the new KSE Firespray was designed to be a smaller, faster, more affordable fighter than the original. Its the sort of thing that police forces could actually afford to buy and use, rather than a unique "one-off special"that a Bounty Hunter would have.





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GankByEwoks
Sat Oct 23, 2004 5:01 pm
#12

THEN DONT CALL THIS GAME" STAR WARS " ! !


Everyone is constantly b!tching that this game doesnt feel Star Warsy enough.. This is the19,120 reason why this game can not grasp the essence of Star Wars,but then again we lost that the second Haden Blackman was put in charge.



- Gank By Ewoks
SodakOwii
Sat Oct 23, 2004 5:02 pm
#13

Id really like to have a YT class ship like dash rendars, i think the outrider is the coolest SW ship...The firespray will be on my wishlist though.



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