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Thread: JtL- A Miserable Waste of Time [directed at the DEVs]
Nice answer genius.
I feel like the miserable waste of time was reading this post.
You would have been better served posting and asking for help and information before you "wasted" your time. If you're so concerned about the quality of your experience, there are a lot of things you could have done before this point.
Posting that you're unhappy because the game slapped you around and made you pay for not learning as much as you could before you spent your precious time, is a waste of our time, and it's a waste of even more of yours.
AzzraelTheRed wrote:
I could just about fogive the stupid length of time it took to do tier 2. But what I have had to put up with, and the ammount of time I have had to spend to achieve NOTHING simply isnt fair or right, and the people responsible for this attrocious gameplay failure should be ashamed.
People who can fly do just fine solo... which means that YOU are responsible for the "attrocious gameplay". Ashamed of yourself?
I am on tier 3 of Imperial Piloting under Storm squadron. I have alread done 2 huge stings of missions to get the Interceptor certification and lvl 7 compontnet use. And what a waste of time it was, since there is no way you can fit more that 1 lvl 7 component on that thing. Prehaps the bomber has more space, but there is no way I could take out other fighers in one of those.
I have had many a fun dogfight in my tie bomber. So it takes a little getting used to, but once it is fully loaded and all droid programs are working, you can nail these ships in 1 or 2 hits.Learning to fly the bomber solo will also make you a better pilot in the long run.
Alternatively, you can always slap your components in a High Mass Tie (Tier 1 cert) that has 96K to play with. But.. I am guessing even that will not be enough, as you are probably trying to fit in a level 7 reactor, capacitor, shields, armour, engine, boosterand weapons. Try only using what you need, not what you are certed for. Level 7 weapon, engine and shields is enough. Armour is not needed if you use droid programs effectively. Use a level 3 reactor (with droid programs) and a level 3 capacitor and you should be fine. If you are still failing then the problem lies in YOUR skills, not the game design.
So we get to the third mission. Go to Endor, fine. Dock with a shuttle, fine. Dock with a second shuttle whilst we throw an unreasonable number of A-wings (which are very broken by the way) and X-wings at you. I just about managed, by rushing to the shuttle, docking and hypering to another point in the system, since there is no way to deal with those fighters by the time the second wave arrives.
So next I have to hunt some rebels. After some time its done, since I have to find them in the vast void of three dimensional space, with most fixed rebel spawns being large clusters of tier 4s. But I eventually get it done.
So now I escort a shuttle, and need to kill 4 waves before it hypers. So here comes wave 1, i kill a couple. Wave two and a couple more. I fight a bit, trying to keep up with the shuttle. Then the remainer of wave 1 hyper out. A little later so does wave 2. Its just me and the shuttle again. I follow it. and follow it.
Again, the weakest part of this gaming experience is yourself. I managed to solo all of storm squadron in 2 days of gameplay with no mission failures.
And follow it.
For twenty minutes, and nothing, just me tailing this slow moving shuttle, until it tells me I failed to kill enough rebels and hypers.
This has taken almost 2 hours, and in return for that time, I get nothing. For no fault of my own, I was cheated of completeing this mission, and I want to know why this sort of thing is allowed to happen.
The fault is entirely your own. You are out of your depth. Pilot is a skill that takes no skillpoints, and so they need to make Ace a worthy title. This means that the difficulty is higher than the ground game where anybody can master a proffession. If you are not up to standard, you need to increase your flying skills or ask a friend to help
I have already attempted to do it again twice. The first time i got to the rebel hunting when my network went down. Why can I not just resume the mission when I get back?MMO's will never have a pause featureThe second a shot of server lag got me a sent from full shilds to destroyed in an instant. I simply do not want to waste my time on this. This has severly damaged my enjoyment of SWG, and has forced my to seriously reconsider continuing with it.
I'm seeing a loooot of flaming going on here and some constructive help.
Fact is, for those of us who did SS or one of the other tough squadrons first, we've all been here. You waltz through mission after mission with an ounce of tactics because they're easy and then when you get hit with one of these 2 hour monsters where your butt is quite frankly handed to you on a plate, well, it's extremely frustrating. A quick rant on the forums is not really out of order, the first time it happens, we've all thought about it.
Those posts above that make constructive criticism are right hon.
First off, check that there forum for there is much useful info to be had.
The weapon loadout is important, take an hour or so and figure out whether you really could be better equipped, since Publish 18/19 SW's can crank out some seriously uber kit (not to mention the Heavy Tie incidentally, you can fly it from 1000 and mine has 96.5k mass.. very useful, althoughsome pilots consider them a little heretic and I'm leaning towards agreement there...).
Second, and assuming the search function is working ok this week, get a full guide on that mission, if you've already done it that many times, now's the time to cheat and get it the hell out of the way 
Thirdly, and the biggie, groups are the answer to all of the harder Squadrons. Yes I know, forget the 'nobody wants to do a 2 hour mission for nothing' bit, the fact is if you're anything like me, you just don't want to group! I *hated* group hunting when I was in SS but the fact is, once you've found 1 or 2 good other pilots, it makes the game much more fun, way, way more in fact... of course there are always the numpteys but then it's a mog so, you know 
I don't begrudge you you're rant flower, there are a few valid points in there. I think the major problem is we're lulled into a sense of uberness by easy missions before being *pounced* on in these enormous time hitters. Just bear in mind, you can't treat all the missions like a blue milk run, once in a while, you're gonna have to actually pull some of that inner Ace out the bag and give 'em a run for their money! Now get out there and show those scum the error of their ways!
Hope that helps sweetie
Kisses
Cass
It's a shame you are not on Eclipse cos' I'd gladly give you a hand. I've never done Storm Squadron for myself, but I've pretty much done all the missions from Tier 2 upwards, giving other people a hand, including the wonderful 2 hour Tier 3 mission.
Only last Friday I helped someone get from 3/3/2/2 to 4/3/3/3 (Storm Squadron)in a couple of hours.
Also...you could try to find someone selling a Heavy TIE Fighter Variant (certified at 1/0/0/0). It's a new ship craftable by shipwrights which uses some asteroid materials and a whole load of normal stuff. It has 95k + mass so you can fit all your level 7 stuff on it. Also it has the maneuverability of a TIE Fighter so it's not slow. It may be a touch expensive due to the asteroid materials, but to be honest should be no more than between 100k - 150k. Also you should easily be able to keep on those pesky a-wings.
The only drawback is the single weapon slot, but you can outfit it with some good defenses. I'd use it over the bomber any day.
Also disable is your friend, but chances are you already know that!
As for droid commands I've never needed to use them so I can't really help with that.
Hope this helps...assuming you try to give it another shot!
Message Edited by Cyrus_Biddissi on 07-18-2005 01:54 PM
Message Edited by Cyrus_Biddissi on 07-18-2005 01:56 PM
psikobunny wrote:
I feel like the miserable waste of time was reading this post.
You would have been better served posting and asking for help and information before you "wasted" your time. If you're so concerned about the quality of your experience, there are a lot of things you could have done before this point.
Posting that you're unhappy because the game slapped you around and made you pay for not learning as much as you could before you spent your precious time, is a waste of our time, and it's a waste of even more of yours.
You know, I totally agree with Psiko.
Coming here and complaining to a bunch of pilots who HAVE done it, and don't think it's impossible, isn't going to generate much support for your cause from the Devs.
For example, when I was up against my first gunboat, it SEEMED impossible, but the point is, you need to adapt, and fly better. Now Corvettes in Kessel are easy.
You need to learn how the flight mechanics/physics work, how to configure your ship, and then learn how to BEAT the enemy in space. This isn't the ground game where you can just set a macro and hit the "attack" button for insta kills. You have to "be" a pilot.
this guy wrote nintendo back in the day and complained about not being able to finish mario bros.
did he buy the strategy guide? no.