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Thread: Don't Panic just yet! Check this post from TKA forum

RinceMeister
Tue Oct 11, 2005 2:14 am
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CL level has been capped at 90 - Ancient Krayts are now CL 90

Seems like we a getting a rebalance of PVE content. Don't know what that is going to do to loot drops. Not sure what other things may be instore either, but sounds like there could be a lot of changes.

Before we say the sky is falling sounds like we need to get some more info about all the changes that are coming with ToOW and Publish 24.

Message Edited by RinceMeister on 10-11-2005 08:21 PM



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jugs
Tue Oct 11, 2005 2:17 am
#2






RinceMeister wrote:
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board?board.id=teras_kasi_artist




what post??, this link only takes you to the forum itself

tpranger
Tue Oct 11, 2005 2:25 am
#3

http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=teras_kasi_artist&message.id=113443


it does link to that topic



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jugs
Tue Oct 11, 2005 2:28 am
#4






tpranger wrote:

http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=teras_kasi_artist&message.id=113443


it does link to that topic






it does nowdue to OP recent edit...


Cheers



Venya
Tue Oct 11, 2005 2:30 am
#5

Most interesting, to say the least. I'll be keeping my eye on this one.



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Eme
Tue Oct 11, 2005 2:42 am
#6

dont panic? that thread makes me panic even more than normal !



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Grunzer
Tue Oct 11, 2005 3:26 am
#7



Doesn't help pearl drops in the least bubba.


Because in the LOOT tables, premium pearls drop only on Mobs CL200+ or something rediculous like that.


Lowering MoB levels is what lost us the premiums in the first place. Lowering them even more doesn't make any difference.


Oh. wait, yeah it will.... Quality Crystals will now NO LONGER DROP. That's right. Forgot about the two CL111 NPC's, if they're changed to cl90.... GOOD crystals will be what drops from them.


So hey, another nerf. cool.


So I agree. don't panic. just stab yourself with your saber now and be done with it.


Message Edited by Grunzer on 10-11-2005 03:27 AM



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VaainEldritch
Tue Oct 11, 2005 3:29 am
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Grunzer wrote:



Doesn't help pearl drops in the least bubba.


Because in the LOOT tables, premium pearls drop only on Mobs CL200+ or something rediculous like that.


Lowering MoB levels is what lost us the premiums in the first place. Lowering them even more doesn't make any difference.


Oh. wait, yeah it will.... Quality Crystals will now NO LONGER DROP. That's right. Forgot about the two CL111 NPC's, if they're changed to cl90.... GOOD crystals will be what drops from them.


So hey, another nerf. cool.


So I agree. don't panic. just stab yourself with your saber now and be done with it.



Message Edited by Grunzer on 10-11-2005 03:27 AM





This is true, but I just don't understand why loot tables are so hard to change.


This in turn suggests to me that it is not a programming issue but a decision by the Dev's, meaning that Premium Pearls will be instituted in some other way rather than as a farmable loot drop.





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"to interfere with one's gaming enjoyment: To drastically alter an item which is enjoyed by thousands."

TO pull a smed. Jeez, those dev's pulled a smed on swg big time

RinceMeister
Tue Oct 11, 2005 4:17 am
#9



VaainEldritch wrote:


Grunzer wrote:

Doesn't help pearl drops in the least bubba.

Because in the LOOT tables, premium pearls drop only on Mobs CL200+ or something rediculous like that.

Lowering MoB levels is what lost us the premiums in the first place. Lowering them even more doesn't make any difference.

Oh. wait, yeah it will.... Quality Crystals will now NO LONGER DROP. That's right. Forgot about the two CL111 NPC's, if they're changed to cl90.... GOOD crystals will be what drops from them.

So hey, another nerf. cool.

So I agree. don't panic. just stab yourself with your saber now and be done with it.

Message Edited by Grunzer on 10-11-2005 03:27 AM



This is true, but I just don't understand why loot tables are so hard to change.

This in turn suggests to me that it is not a programming issue but a decision by the Dev's, meaning that Premium Pearls will be instituted in some other way rather than as a farmable loot drop.






The point is we don't know what changes may have been made to go along with the PvE cap.

It would of course be good to know what changes are actually planned for Live when ToOW is released.

I know that the FRS is switched on in beta and that you can once again start on the knight trials, but I'd be very surprised if this carry's on to live since from what I can gather it's basically the old FRS.

I'd really like to hear some thing from the Devs about what is actually coming out with ToOW and the motivation for the change.

So Devs - what is actually changing with Publish 24 and ToOW ? NDA is lifted time for some concrete info.



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Grunzer
Tue Oct 11, 2005 4:23 am
#10






RinceMeister wrote:





VaainEldritch wrote:





Grunzer wrote:



Doesn't help pearl drops in the least bubba.


Because in the LOOT tables, premium pearls drop only on Mobs CL200+ or something rediculous like that.


Lowering MoB levels is what lost us the premiums in the first place. Lowering them even more doesn't make any difference.


Oh. wait, yeah it will.... Quality Crystals will now NO LONGER DROP. That's right. Forgot about the two CL111 NPC's, if they're changed to cl90.... GOOD crystals will be what drops from them.


So hey, another nerf. cool.


So I agree. don't panic. just stab yourself with your saber now and be done with it.



Message Edited by Grunzer on 10-11-2005 03:27 AM





This is true, but I just don't understand why loot tables are so hard to change.


This in turn suggests to me that it is not a programming issue but a decision by the Dev's, meaning that Premium Pearls will be instituted in some other way rather than as a farmable loot drop.









The point is we don't know what changes may have been made to go along with the PvE cap.

It would of course be good to know what changes are actually planned for Live when ToOW is released.

I know that the FRS is switched on in beta and that you can once again start on the knight trials, but I'd be very surprised if this carry's on to live since from what I can gather it's basically the old FRS.

I'd really like to hear some thing from the Devs about what is actually coming out with ToOW and the motivation for the change.

So Devs - what is actually changing with Publish 24 and ToOW ? NDA is lifted time for some concrete info.





I do know for certain that there will be no FRS when ToOW shows up. I also know for certain that crystals/pearls will not be fixed when ToOW shows up. I know this because Thunderheart has already been quoted as saying this, at least 5 times in the last few months. And most recently someone posted a quote of his from the beta-boards that basically said to the OP... "Shut up. these aren't the boards for your stupid jedi-questions."


So in a best-case scenerio. It is going to continue getting worse before it gets better. And that is being extremely positive, as we've haven't even been told that there "IS" a light at the end of the tunnel. In fact if you evaluate what's gone on in the last few months and base the future "changes" on that then the tunnel is a dead end.




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EmpressWSA
Tue Oct 11, 2005 4:24 am
#11

Well you never know...They may alter the loot tables, with the Mdef nerf, these mobs will require a good group to take down, and one that is not just made of defenders.
Grunzer
Tue Oct 11, 2005 4:31 am
#12






EmpressWSA wrote:

Well you never know...They may alter the loot tables, with the Mdef nerf, these mobs will require a good group to take down, and one that is not just made of defenders.






You're right, I don't KNOW. But I've found that if you take a quick step back, and judge people by the way they have behaved and acted in the past, it is much easier to get a really good and fairly accurate idea of how they will behave in the future.


And What i'm seeing, based on past actions, is that customers who play Jedi are fairly screwed barring someone stepping in and forcing the developers to take a different direction.


With the New MBH Uber-rifle, the force run nerf. the ai nerf. the cloak nerf. The never ending electrolyte drain... It seems to me that it stands to reason that they're going to indirectly get rid of quality crystals too.



And this isn't the first AI or Force Run nerf either. Both of these have been nerfed recently already. This will be round 2 for them.


Lightsaber high-minimum damage is wiped out by the new MBH rifle. That rifle has a minimum of 800 damage. That minimum is higher than the highest pre-cu saber damages. It's max is 1250. It will be the most powerful weapon in the game.


And it's looking like it is a loot/quest drop. So weaponsmiths get screwed too.


I think it is safe to say that MBH's are getting all the love from the developers, and have been for the last couple of months, and there seems to be no end in sight to it.


With that weapon, and the new rules on snare. MBH's = 1.5 Stronger than any other class in the game. They become the new alpha class. And let me tell you, as a person who played an MBH for nearly 2 years in this game, I can honestly say that they are NOT hurting nearly as badly as some of the Noobs in the BH forums want people to believe.



Message Edited by Grunzer on 10-11-2005 04:35 AM



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KRAKEN666
Tue Oct 11, 2005 4:35 am
#13

if krayts are capped at level 90, this directly contradicts the statements about quality pearl drops. If this is true, then you will never get another quality or flawless pearl again from a kryat dragon because of the combat level is to low. How can the devs contradict themselves so much?

Message Edited by KRAKEN666 on 10-11-2005 04:36 AM

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