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Thread: MLS/Mpowers/heal 4000...3 questions

Wombatula
Mon Oct 24, 2005 1:03 pm
#1






Shamrocky wrote:


I would say choice B but instead of force valor get melee def or force armor.......make sure you always have the adrenal buff from a doc for the speed


hope this helps





heya thanks irish, the line wasnt so much for the valor as it was for the def bonuses, and you mean that the original template IS wack? I dunno guys, I'm just really lost here since my plans for the last 3 months just got shattered by the hybrid nerf...




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WookieOgre
Mon Oct 24, 2005 1:11 pm
#2






Wombatula wrote:

1- Will I just get my a$$ handed to me due to my complete and utter lack of def? Or will I do so much damage in the first minute of the fight that I'll kick at least moderate butt? BTW this is meant for mainly PvP, during high end PvE I'll either have guildies there, or be playing my alt...


I have no doubt, current PvP and PvE this templae is horrible. NO defense = death. PvP expect to be one shot is all I'm going to say. You have as much defense as a noob coming into the game. I believe numbers like 9k hits before armor are now common.


2- Would some sort of dabblerish template like one of the following be a smarter choice? (if so lemme know which one)


a) MLS/heal 4xxx/def 0444/powers 0430


b) MLS/def 0044/enh 0004/powers 0400/heal 4000


c) MLS/powers 0440/heal 4000/def 0044 (13sp left)


Anything with defense is better. Dabbling in Powers =bad idea.Better off just dropping it till it's revamped.......which means when hell has frozen over.


3- Should I just give up on powers if I want to remain viable? I'm not willing to be the same old mdef/mls combo everyone else is, but not gonna stick with powers if it just aint happening, despite how cool cloak, choke, and lightning are...


After Cloak is nerfed it's time to hang up Powers. Choke although cool is not worth the skill points.


Thanks all! (BTW was a hybrid template, but we all know what happened to them a few days ago, so need help fast so my toon isnt useless anymore!)








Shamrocky
Mon Oct 24, 2005 1:14 pm
#3

yea the master powers/master sabers temp wont work unless you have some taking all the damage for you. You probably wouldnt be able to solo much cause you would take so much damage you will get your a$$ handed to you lol



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Wombatula
Mon Oct 24, 2005 2:15 pm
#4

ok guys, but I dont plan to solo anything with this temp, EVER, thats what I have an alt and a guild for



that change anything? anyone have any specific templates to suggest? maybe something with a good hunk if not master enhancer?






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Wombatula
Mon Oct 24, 2005 3:19 pm
#5

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KraytMan
Mon Oct 24, 2005 3:43 pm
#6

You have to figure go with one or the other with Powers and Saber...It is not worthless to have em both, but you will miss out on too much and the cons will outweigh the pros. If you want powers, just take a line or two in Saber (I.E. 0404, 0400, 4400, etc...)..but dont get powers unless you are going for master or Cloak only (0400). I would rec. Mpow, 0400 saber, 4000 heal, 4404(believe that fills all skittle points). But if you want to be saber only, I would say, MLS, 0040def, 4100heal, 4404enhancer...I have been that temp since they turned Def to crap, and have not been happier. But I would just choose based on your taste, if you wanna choke ppl and make flashy lights, go with a Mpow's temp. But if you want the saber action, I would MLS and then dabble in others.


Hope that helps any, good luck with your choice.



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Can move with the highest in heaven.
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Wombatula
Mon Oct 24, 2005 4:47 pm
#7

that actually DID help a lot, thanks muchly sir! Now to make the tough call...




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Gorthu
Mon Oct 24, 2005 5:06 pm
#8

How do any of you get by without force valor?
Wombatula
Mon Oct 24, 2005 5:13 pm
#9






Gorthu wrote:

How do any of you get by without force valor?










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wintersNight
Mon Oct 24, 2005 5:59 pm
#10

it really depends. we have a master powers temp dabbler ls, heal and enh (M def is only 77) And she kicks some serious *edited by admin* you will never be able to stay in one place in hit, but if you kite like Ben Franklin, you'll learn a fun temp. In mass pvp (which it is a lot for our server) if you don't have the good saber, then you are crowd control primary, damage second. breach rocks/cloak/choke/root/snare rock.



Morgan wins 40% of her solo jedi fights, but if she's hasn't logged on, our pvp suffers. so don't think you have to be mls to be wicked good. even the dirty rebs /repsect Morgan.





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DavtyDibal
Mon Oct 24, 2005 6:56 pm
#11

Well I have this exact template myself. Its difficult to beat other jedi because Ive got no defense. You will however pwn must bh that come for you except for the ones that have the SL buffs. Case in point I was killed in ONE shot by a bh with SL buffs today. He hit for 3k with sniper shot. Im nothing more than a crowd control / support type. Im not interested in some flavor of the monthuber pvp machine template. Do what is fun for you.



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Zariell
Mon Oct 24, 2005 7:08 pm
#12

Buddy of mine has this exact template, he pvp's alot.



In group pvp hes mostly fine but when its time for him to scout and what not cloak runs him out of force quickly (no channel).





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HashiEno
Mon Oct 24, 2005 7:21 pm
#13

i think the lack of defenses will be bad. but i dont think defender is necessary either.


my template is mpowers, 0404 ls, 3402 enh, 4000 healer. i chose it because it reflected what i thought a jedi should be, and it turns out its a ton of fun. basically, you are a ranged jedi at this point. 0404 is a good lightsaber complement for master powers, since powers is a ranged prof and you can set your auto-attack to the imp. saber throw for added dps from most ranges. you would be suprised what you can do dps wise with this combo.


as for defenses, 4000 healer combined with improved force armor from enhancer and channel is a great setup. does well. throw in some bliel and good stim-d's and you are pretty well defended. for pvp anyway. its not a lair tanking defense, thats for sure. but for pvp, its very good.


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